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Stoop Repair (by Frank [NJ]) Nov 16, 2017 8:57 AM
       Stoop Repair (by AllyM [NJ]) Nov 16, 2017 9:30 AM
       Stoop Repair (by cjo'h [CT]) Nov 16, 2017 11:26 AM
       Stoop Repair (by cjo'h [CT]) Nov 16, 2017 11:32 AM
       Stoop Repair (by Frank [NJ]) Nov 16, 2017 4:45 PM
       Stoop Repair (by RR78 [VA]) Nov 16, 2017 5:30 PM
       Stoop Repair (by Robin [WI]) Nov 16, 2017 5:31 PM
       Stoop Repair (by Andrew,Canada [ON]) Nov 17, 2017 6:31 AM
       Stoop Repair (by Busy, busy, busy [WI]) Nov 17, 2017 9:43 AM
       Stoop Repair (by Busy, busy, busy [WI]) Nov 17, 2017 9:49 AM
       Stoop Repair (by cjo'h [CT]) Nov 17, 2017 3:04 PM
       Stoop Repair (by cjo'h [CT]) Nov 17, 2017 3:13 PM


Stoop Repair (by Frank [NJ]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2017 8:57 AM
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Hi, Looking for input on needed repairs.

3 concrete steps up to a full-brick border outlining a concrete landing pad. The mortar 'tween bricks and concrete landing has come away a lot and the bricks are loose. not singly but in 2, if not three groups of 3 or 4 bricks each.

Am wondering if there is a way to get them back in place and secured.

One of my questions is, how do the bricks get "clamped": in place to hold while drying?

Oh....and of course I am trying to avoid the costs of a mason, though maybe it might be chillds play for them, but I always like to ask here first

As always I thank all who take the time to read & reply.

--173.63.xx.xx




Stoop Repair (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2017 9:30 AM
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I would think some kind of form might be needed but I did experience this at parents' home and they never really stayed put once that happened and I ended up finding someone to replace the steps completely. It would seem to me that water is the problem and especially water with salt in it from people salting the steps to melt ice and snow. In some places I GIVE them the proper product to use and ask them to call me when they are out of it so I can replace it for them. One time a tenant's daughter bought them salt for water softeners because it was cheap and I couldn't figure out why I had to keep recoating the back steps every year. --73.33.xxx.xxx




Stoop Repair (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2017 11:26 AM
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Frank,just have to do it yourself.Clean it off,take the loose bricks,knock off all the loose plaster,get a bag of premixed mortar,add water as needed,not too much,use common sense.after you get them all back in place,top it off with blue flag stone about an @inch thick.nice,throw a small tarp over it in winter and use the other door.Go to it.Charlie..................................................................... --174.199.xx.xxx




Stoop Repair (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2017 11:32 AM
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Frank,you don't have to clamp them,the weight of the brick and gravity will take over. Apple falling from tree,remember Sir Isaac.Nice.Charlie....................... --174.199.xx.xxx




Stoop Repair (by Frank [NJ]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2017 4:45 PM
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Thanks you two. Charlie: I have used Mr. Newton's advice several times over the years. In this case those bricks are vertical...and Mr. Newton wants to drag them down. --173.63.xx.xx




Stoop Repair (by RR78 [VA]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2017 5:30 PM
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If it is what I am thinking. Can you use tapcons with a 2x4 under the brick overhang for support.

That is what I did on one years ago. But left the 2x4 in place since it looked good. That was when I could by Trex composite in full 2 x 4's.

Also just to mention. A lot of the polyurethane caulks for brick are actually stronger than mortar and even meets code in some areas.

Still mortar the joints for looks, but maybe use this on the bottom.

Had a guy mess up one end blocks on a retaining wall. Next morning tried hammer and pry bar. Then carbide blade on a sawall anything we could think of. Sledge with a 2 x 4.

Had to finally break the block apart in pieces before the glue failed. Was the loctite brand. --73.177.xxx.xx




Stoop Repair (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Nov 16, 2017 5:31 PM
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If you coat them with masonry sealer it will retard water intrusion and damage from deicer, and extend the life significantly. --204.210.xxx.xxx




Stoop Repair (by Andrew,Canada [ON]) Posted on: Nov 17, 2017 6:31 AM
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Use a latex additive when mixing the mortar mix....it will make for a MUCH stronger bond. --70.48.xxx.xx




Stoop Repair (by Busy, busy, busy [WI]) Posted on: Nov 17, 2017 9:43 AM
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And be sure they sit on a base other than dirt. A couple of inches of roadbase will help drain. Road base can be bought by the bag at home centers for a small job. 2-3 bucks. --172.58.xxx.xxx




Stoop Repair (by Busy, busy, busy [WI]) Posted on: Nov 17, 2017 9:49 AM
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RR78, that's good to know about the Loctite poly caulk. I have a lot of cracked foundations that might just get some of that next summer. And, I stick some old lintels along one of my driveways to cover a gravel spot between my sidewalk and driveway. But, kids kept pulling them out to weight be hoops to play in street. (No, no kids. Not safe!) maybe the Loctite will keep my blocks where they belong. --172.58.xxx.xxx




Stoop Repair (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Nov 17, 2017 3:04 PM
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Busy,busy ,busy,try drilling with a masonry bit and hammer a foot or two of rebar down there,they won't budge them.charlie.................................................. --174.199.x.xxx




Stoop Repair (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Nov 17, 2017 3:13 PM
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Andrew,that white latex additive is good when you're trying to patch holes in the sidewalk after you wash it good and let it dry,brush it in good, then your mortar mix.charlie............................................ --174.199.x.xxx





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