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The Tenants broke up (by Dawn K [IN]) Oct 18, 2017 2:34 PM
       The Tenants broke up (by NE [PA]) Oct 18, 2017 2:37 PM
       The Tenants broke up (by razorback_tim [AR]) Oct 18, 2017 2:45 PM
       The Tenants broke up (by RB [MI]) Oct 18, 2017 2:53 PM
       The Tenants broke up (by Ken [NY]) Oct 18, 2017 3:20 PM
       The Tenants broke up (by DJ [VA]) Oct 18, 2017 3:54 PM
       The Tenants broke up (by cjo'h [CT]) Oct 18, 2017 3:58 PM
       The Tenants broke up (by Laura [VA]) Oct 18, 2017 4:10 PM
       The Tenants broke up (by Barb [MO]) Oct 18, 2017 4:53 PM
       The Tenants broke up (by Ken [NY]) Oct 18, 2017 5:08 PM
       The Tenants broke up (by Mickie [OH]) Oct 18, 2017 7:04 PM
       The Tenants broke up (by Doogie [KS]) Oct 19, 2017 5:10 AM
       The Tenants broke up (by WMH [NC]) Oct 19, 2017 5:34 AM
       The Tenants broke up (by Vee [OH]) Oct 19, 2017 5:58 AM
       The Tenants broke up (by S i d [MO]) Oct 19, 2017 5:58 AM
       The Tenants broke up (by Lana [IN]) Oct 19, 2017 8:04 AM
       The Tenants broke up (by Ken [NY]) Oct 19, 2017 11:37 AM
       The Tenants broke up (by WMH [NC]) Oct 20, 2017 9:26 AM


The Tenants broke up (by Dawn K [IN]) Posted on: Oct 18, 2017 2:34 PM
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Tenants moved in 1 1/2 months ago, and have already broken up and he moved out. She (age 23) wants to move a new (I'm assuming) boyfriend in, age 17. I'm not sure how to handle, from a landlord perspective. He's technically a child in my state, and he is going to school and has no job. Do I just have him sign a lease addendum as a new co-renter? I feel like I need to do more than I would for a child living in the house. Suggestions please! --184.16.xxx.xxx




The Tenants broke up (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Oct 18, 2017 2:37 PM
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No way. I'd work on getting her out legally and quietly and swiftly. (that's just me). My lucky 8-ball says, "Outlook does not look good." --50.32.xxx.x




The Tenants broke up (by razorback_tim [AR]) Posted on: Oct 18, 2017 2:45 PM
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I'm with NE on this one. --216.163.x.xx




The Tenants broke up (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Oct 18, 2017 2:53 PM
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Time to try a New approach with New Tenant(s) --71.13.xx.xxx




The Tenants broke up (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Oct 18, 2017 3:20 PM
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I agree with NE,it is just going to be 1 party after another at this point.I see no reason to have him sign anything,he is a child and his signature won't hold up in court anyway --72.231.xxx.xxx




The Tenants broke up (by DJ [VA]) Posted on: Oct 18, 2017 3:54 PM
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I agree also. Not only is he underage for "boyfriend" activities, he is too young to legally enter into a contract (lease).

If you tell her no, she will move him in anyway. So, I see you having 2 choices: 1) authorize him as an occupant (too young to be a tenant) or 2) Give her (& the former boyfriend) notice if it's month-to-month and find someone else.

If they are on a lease, you may be able to terminate it if she does not qualify alone without the previous boyfriend.

It's a tough one. You may have to wait until he is an UNauthorized occupant & then evict for that.

Best wishes! --68.105.xxx.xxx




The Tenants broke up (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Oct 18, 2017 3:58 PM
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Dawn, the Dawn has broken,and its now nightfall,the Crystal Ball here in Connecticut reads the same as NEs.charlie........................................................................Arebebhershi yesterday.............................. --174.199.xx.xxx




The Tenants broke up (by Laura [VA]) Posted on: Oct 18, 2017 4:10 PM
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If you are a new landlord, you really don't want to accept anyone that doesn't have two prior satisfactory landlord references (their parents don't count) - you can make that a requirement to qualify. And you probably want to avoid unmarried couples, too. If they are unmarried, I require them each to meet the salary qualification, and of course they never do. Unless your place is really hard to rent, try to steer clear this kind of young/unmarried drama in the future. I guess you already figured this out though. :) Good luck. I'd also try to get her out if I could.

--67.172.xxx.xxx




The Tenants broke up (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Oct 18, 2017 4:53 PM
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In my state, if a 17 yr old signs a contract, the contract is null and void.

There is also a possibility of criminal charges against the female for having him there. --64.251.xxx.xxx




The Tenants broke up (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Oct 18, 2017 5:08 PM
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Laura,if you require unmarried couples to each meet income requirements but do not require married couples to meet this requirement seperately I believe you are violating fair housing regulations concerning familial status --72.231.xxx.xxx




The Tenants broke up (by Mickie [OH]) Posted on: Oct 18, 2017 7:04 PM
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As Vee would say...read and print a copy of your state and local landlord tenant laws. Put them into a binder where you can easily and quickly reference them. --71.213.xx.xxx




The Tenants broke up (by Doogie [KS]) Posted on: Oct 19, 2017 5:10 AM
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Pretty sure you will void your lease if you sign the minor on. It may just not be valid with him, but you could still recover from her. I'm not sure. Either way, it just seems like this is a big pile of drama fixing to start. I'd get rid of them both and tell them to call the Lifetime Movie station. --72.202.xxx.xxx




The Tenants broke up (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Oct 19, 2017 5:34 AM
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Ken, Familial Status does not have anything to do with a married or unmarried state. It is only about the presence or absence of children under age 18.

"Familial status" means having a child under age 18 in the household, whether living with a parent, a legal custodian, or their designee. It also covers a woman who is pregnant, and people in the process of adopting or gaining custody of child/children."

Unless the tenant is the 17 year old's legal guardian, you don't have to allow him. --173.22.xx.xx




The Tenants broke up (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Oct 19, 2017 5:58 AM
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This situation presents many fences and few gates to success - can the underage person be -emancipated-, this would allow the ability to contract along with an adult, then the fence in front of you is no income, a gate exists here with 8 months prepaid - most of my students must do this to get into my shacks, then you are fenced in by the chance the adult leaves - no gate here. So what you have is a maze of methods that rely on -maybe-, as the others have said just say no and get the unit cleared fast so you can assess damages and return any deposit after the accounting statement is ready with repair estimates. Begin with the rules as Mickie has pointed out. --76.188.xxx.xx




The Tenants broke up (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Oct 19, 2017 5:58 AM
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Good morning Dawn K,

What every responder has failed to mention so far (unless I failed to read it!) is that you still have TWO tenants.

When a person moves out doesn't mean they are off the hook. I know tenants think that is true, but it's not. Broken up relationships are tenant problems. "I hate your guts and I'm outta here" doesn't change your lease with the absentee boyfriend one bit.

The land lord cannot make any unilateral changes like adding a new tenant or authorizing an additional occupant; nor can you amicably end the lease without agreement of all parties. All parties includes the ex-boyfriend.

I'd let Miss Tenant know she needs to re-establish speaking terms with her Ex...meet with them in a public place to avoid any shenanigans, get them both to sign off on ending the lease...and get them out ASAP. 17-year-old is not going to be a good tenant. Too young. 1 in 100 chance that works out well. And yes, as others have said she will move him in no matter what you say or do to the contrary. He will always be "just visiting".

Unless it's a month to month, you're stuck until the lease expires. If it is a month to month, give notice of non-renewal today, effective end of November.

--173.19.xx.xxx




The Tenants broke up (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Oct 19, 2017 8:04 AM
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Breakups, pregnancies, and lost jobs are the most common reasons I lose Tenants. I ask that they be together at least 6-12 months before I consider them. I ask for 1 year job time. Good luck figuring out if they are pregnant and I doubt it's a question allowed on applications. It sounds like she does not qualify by herself. Therefore, you are going to lose her too and the sooner the better. So I would make that your goal and reset for better Tenants.

You really want to avoid the possibility a 17 year old moves in and SHE bails out. The 17 year old would count as a guest and she and ex as Lease holders would remain responsible for rent and performance of Lease. Good luck with that.

I have tried talking with both legal Tenants and offering a deal. Something like, "If you get out of my apartment BY NOON on Saturday and you are COMPLETELY out, I will refund your entire Deposit and end the Lease without taking you to court." Then I confirm the agreement in writing and we all sign. I will use the caps BY NOON and COMPLETELY against them. Kids don't understand keeping their word anymore and at noon on Saturday, they will tell me with a straight face that they are out except for a truckload of stuff they have to pick up on Sunday.

I believe it is time for you to give up on these tenants and find a fast, legal way out. --216.23.xxx.xx




The Tenants broke up (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Oct 19, 2017 11:37 AM
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WMC,I was not referring to the 17 year old,I was referring to Laura saying she requires unmarried couples to each separately meet 3x rent as opposed to married couples not needing to each meet the requirement --72.231.xxx.xxx




The Tenants broke up (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Oct 20, 2017 9:26 AM
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Right, but I'm saying that's not what familial status refers to. You are free to treat unmarried couples as roommates rather than as legally connected spouses - unmarried couples are not a protected class. --173.22.xx.xx





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