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Section 8 (by Jennifer [UT]) Oct 11, 2017 7:40 AM
       Section 8 (by S i d [MO]) Oct 11, 2017 8:44 AM
       Section 8 (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Oct 11, 2017 9:01 AM
       Section 8 (by Lynda [TX]) Oct 11, 2017 10:32 AM
       Section 8 (by Ken [NY]) Oct 11, 2017 10:50 AM
       Section 8 (by Barbara [VA]) Oct 11, 2017 10:59 AM
       Section 8 (by Larry [MN]) Oct 11, 2017 11:08 AM
       Section 8 (by Pattyk [MO]) Oct 11, 2017 11:35 AM
       Section 8 (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Oct 11, 2017 1:01 PM
       Section 8 (by RR78 [VA]) Oct 11, 2017 1:08 PM
       Section 8 (by tryan [MA]) Oct 11, 2017 3:37 PM
       Section 8 (by cjo'h [CT]) Oct 11, 2017 10:27 PM
       Section 8 (by Vee [OH]) Oct 12, 2017 4:51 AM
       Section 8 (by Laura [MD]) Oct 15, 2017 4:40 PM

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Section 8 (by Jennifer [UT]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2017 7:40 AM

I have a resident who is on a section 8 voucher and has lived here for 13 years. She is current on her portion of the rent, however, section 8 hasn't paid their portion.

I contacted her caseworker a week ago and she said it shows it was an ACH payment on 10/2/17. But our bank account isn't showing the ACH deposit for her. Our bank account has been the same since 2003 and we've never had any problems with ACH transactions from housing before.

Section 8's portion is $593.00. It is now 11 days late. Our lease states and we charge other residents a flat $150 in late fees if they have a balance over $100 on the 6th of the month. Are we permitted to charge late fees to section 8 clients? And if so, whose responsibility is it to pay since her portion was paid on time?

Section 8 (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2017 8:44 AM


No, you won't be able to charge Section 8 office or the resident any late fees. It's likely in the contract they have you signed that any screw ups are not their fault and you get to wait for them to settle things. Even if it's not in our will probably hear the standard Govt-worker BS, "We are not authorized to pay late fees..."

(Even when we screw up) <-- That's the part you won't hear them ever say.

This is how it works when you take Uncle Sam's money: he makes the rules.

It's not the resident's fault Sec 8 screwed no you cannot charge her. She is responsible for $X. She has paid $X.

To get your money, you will need to appeal to someone higher up the food chain at the Sec 8 office until the issue gets resolved.

When I did a Sec 8 tenants many years ago they didn't send the payment when the lease renewed...took them over a month to get it straightened out during which time I received no rent, no apology, and had to call ever 3-4 days to remind them I still needed my money. It was such a silly game. And no, I could not evict either. Finally they asked me if I wanted to come down to their office and pick it up. I did....and I vowed "NEVER AGAIN!"

Just another reason why I do not have any rentals that currently are qualified to participate in Sec 8.

Section 8 (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2017 9:01 AM

It is not the tenants responsibility to ensure that Sec 8 pay on time. They have no control over the payment and to my thinking cannot be held liable for the actions of n outside agent.

I would show Sec 8 that portion of my current bank statement to prove that the ACH never reached your account and go from there. As for late fees if Sec 8 shows you that they made an attempt to make the payment on time I would just let it go.

Section 8 (by Lynda [TX]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2017 10:32 AM

I fought the screwed-up program rules for 2 years, and I was abused in the process. It took them a month to process any rent amount change, and that was a month of lost rent for me--it never got paid. In 2 years I had 4 changes and 4 months of unpaid Sec-8 rent. Four times I marched down to the frustrating office and never to the same person twice. Each time there was new people in charge of the case or on vacation,etc. I had 4 dif rules quoted to me for the problem, each one covered them NOT paying the contracted amount. I was not allowed to evict, I was not allowed to cancel my assoc with Sec-8 as long as there was a dispute. The most they did was add the disputed amount to the file record (for all the good it did).

I finally got out of the system by refusing to allow the inspector to do the annual inspection. Then they fired ME, saying it also wiped out their debt to me. How convenient--but it was worth the amount I sacrificed just to be free of Sec-8 forever. Ignorant, incompetent, self-serving, miss-administered, arrogant--I run out of words. They couldn't even do simple addition and subtraction without getting it wrong.

Section 8 (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2017 10:50 AM

The tenant owes the rent,if section 8 or someone else wants to pay the rent then fine but charge the tenant the late fee.The easiest way to deal with it is to give the tenant an eviction notice and let her go cry to the housing office,they don't care about you but will respond to help the tenant

Section 8 (by Barbara [VA]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2017 10:59 AM

I would go after the tenant. Let her deal with the headache of straightening out her benefit.

Section 8 (by Larry [MN]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2017 11:08 AM

13 years of on-time payments now one month with a glitch and you want to charge $150 in late fees? Geeze, relax. I'm sure they will figure it out.

Section 8 (by Pattyk [MO]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2017 11:35 AM

Call you bank. Talk to them about what housing said. Have them search for the deposit. Re look over the bank statements yourself. Perhaps there is an error somewhere that can easily be corrected. Call the bank start the conversation like this " can you help me?" call housing start same conversation "can you help me?" make it about solving a mystery. People will want to help you succeed. Beats playing the its not fair victim card. Something changed somewhere... Be a defective, solve the mystery and get paid. --66.87.xx.xx

Section 8 (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2017 1:01 PM

A "defective detective"??:)

What Ken said. The res has a problem - HER aide did not come thru. The office and higher ups do not care about you.


Section 8 (by RR78 [VA]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2017 1:08 PM

We always still had our standard lease with the tenant. We did not care if section 8, the tenant or her brothers uncle cushion helped her pay the rent.

We still enforced our lease with just the tenant. Would charge the tenant the late fee and then go after the tenant for the payment. let her provide proof it was paid or fix the problem. We have a lease with the tenant. And their responsibility to see we are paid. Who ever they get to pay.

Now, If the problem was corrected and it was a section 8 payment, we would waive the late fee. Per our sec 8 agreement. But not waste anytime chasing down a payment.

Section 8 (by tryan [MA]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2017 3:37 PM

Successful S8 renting requires screening the HUD agency subsidizing the payment. I work with only one. 2 others have been screened out.

My longest S8 is on year 18 ....

Section 8 (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Oct 11, 2017 10:27 PM

Jennifer,I would listen to Ken,and I wouldn't worry much about the late fee,it's not going to break you or make you s millionaire,but I would send an eviction notice to section 8 Just for the hell of it,and let the chips fall where they may,even it cost you a few dollars,It would be well worth it.Charlie........................................................................

Section 8 (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2017 4:51 AM

In my area there are 10 agencies using sec8 funds to assist people who can not figure out housing, only 2 are left which operate under their own rules and pay for the water used by the occupants, most sec8 do not want this to occur. When my family pulled me into the business we had over 40, now at 10 and when they expire we do not participate at that place, there are new and renewed HUD properties all around they can - will and have destroyed (near me is a 3 story brick HUD property that has burnt to the ground twice in 14 years), how do you burn down a brick building?!? This is prolly why previous oversight of policy for 2 terms decided to make HUD funded places all smoke free this year.

Section 8 (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Oct 15, 2017 4:40 PM

READ the document YOU signed with the Sec 8 office. It indicates you CAN NOT go after tenant for monies paid by the agency.

Also the court system , which i can assure you is well aware of Sec 8 rules, will NOT allow you to hold the tenant responsible for the Sec. 8 office payment.

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