Maximum occupancy (by Luke [MO]) Oct 9, 2017 2:56 PM|
Maximum occupancy (by Barb [MO]) Oct 9, 2017 3:27 PM
Maximum occupancy (by Luke [MO]) Oct 9, 2017 3:59 PM
Maximum occupancy (by Ed [PA]) Oct 9, 2017 4:20 PM
Maximum occupancy (by Barb [MO]) Oct 10, 2017 6:06 AM
Maximum occupancy (by S i d [MO]) Oct 10, 2017 7:58 AM
Maximum occupancy (by #22 [MO]) Oct 10, 2017 9:04 AM
Maximum occupancy (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Oct 10, 2017 1:31 PM
Maximum occupancy (by Luke [MO]) Oct 10, 2017 7:25 PM
Maximum occupancy (by Luke [MO]) Posted on: Oct 9, 2017 2:56 PM
I have a 5-bedroom rental house in an area zoned as "single-family residential". The city ordinance for this type of zoning says that when one occupant is unrelated to the rest, the maximum occupancy is 3 adults or 2 adults and children.
I have an applicant family of 5 adults and 7 children. 11 of these family members are related to one another while the other is an unrelated fiancÚ.
I'm confident that accepting them can make me vulnerable to city violation. My question is, if I denied them based on city ordinance could I also be vulnerable (to the FHA) for discrimination based on familial status?
The applications have not yet been submitted, and hopefully there are other ways to deny them. --108.230.xxx.xxx
Maximum occupancy (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Oct 9, 2017 3:27 PM
Define related. A finance who lives as a spouse/partner sounds related to me!
Heck - my employer allows an employee to cover a non-married partner under the insurance!
That said, I would wait until the application comes in. You can probably find something. It might be as simple as they didn't fill out your application in full. --64.251.xxx.xxx
Maximum occupancy (by Luke [MO]) Posted on: Oct 9, 2017 3:59 PM
The statute defines relationship as "blood, marriage, adoption, or guardianship" which would preclude fiancÚs until married. --108.230.xxx.xxx
Maximum occupancy (by Ed [PA]) Posted on: Oct 9, 2017 4:20 PM
Cities put all kinds of unconstitutional unenforceable statues out knowing it is unlikely that anyone will fight them by themselves. If you want the applicants, the city has no way to know who is related to who nor do they have bedroom police checking. If you don't want them, find another reason, with that many people there will be a reason to deny. --96.236.xxx.xxx
Maximum occupancy (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Oct 10, 2017 6:06 AM
I would not worry about the city's definition of "related". It would get thrown out by the courts if taken there.
Meanwhile, that sounds like a lot of people, and hard on the house. Hopefully you are getting really good rent for all the wear and tear.
If you don't want them, find another way. --64.251.xxx.xxx
Maximum occupancy (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Oct 10, 2017 7:58 AM
My guess is out of 12 people, SOMEONE will have something on their application that will make it deniable, even without worry for the # of people.
My city ordinances are 2 people per bedroom + 1. 5 bedroom houses maxes out at 11 people.
Consider if you want to keep a 5-bed house. Odds are you'll continue to have this issue down the road. 7 tenants under one roof (3-bed) is the max drama I want to deal with, so I stick with 1, 2, 3 bed units. Mostly 2 bed.
My city requires a closet, a locking door, and a window for a room to be considered a bedroom. For $50, I can turn a bedroom into a storage area. --173.19.xx.xxx
Maximum occupancy (by #22 [MO]) Posted on: Oct 10, 2017 9:04 AM
Whoa. What a nightmare. This happened a lot in Illinois 20 years ago when I left. Families from a certain country would move in 15-25 people into one house - a total nightmare for the landlord. Often cities will limit the # of people who can live in a home based on bedrooms, their sizes and sf.. good luck. Where is it at? --70.195.xx.xxx
Maximum occupancy (by NC INVESTOR [NC]) Posted on: Oct 10, 2017 1:31 PM
You cannot disallow a family for the number of children but "extended" or multi-generational families are not a protected class.
When Fair Housing says "families" they are referring to the parent(s) and children. --75.181.xxx.xx
Maximum occupancy (by Luke [MO]) Posted on: Oct 10, 2017 7:25 PM
Thanks for all your responses.
#22, I'm in Springfield, MO. --108.230.xxx.xxx