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Refuse property entry (by Natali [FL]) Sep 21, 2017 11:36 AM
       Refuse property entry (by NE [PA]) Sep 21, 2017 11:41 AM
       Refuse property entry (by James [MO]) Sep 21, 2017 11:54 AM
       Refuse property entry (by S i d [MO]) Sep 21, 2017 12:17 PM
       Refuse property entry (by J [FL]) Sep 21, 2017 12:21 PM
       Refuse property entry (by wmh [NC]) Sep 21, 2017 1:03 PM
       Refuse property entry (by Emily [TX]) Sep 21, 2017 1:13 PM
       Refuse property entry (by J [FL]) Sep 21, 2017 1:37 PM
       Refuse property entry (by Lynda [TX]) Sep 21, 2017 4:14 PM
       Refuse property entry (by Shaun [FL]) Sep 22, 2017 4:53 AM
       Refuse property entry (by J [FL]) Sep 22, 2017 5:11 AM
       Refuse property entry (by J [FL]) Sep 22, 2017 5:14 AM
       Refuse property entry (by Tom [FL]) Sep 22, 2017 6:39 PM


Refuse property entry (by Natali [FL]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2017 11:36 AM
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My tenants are not allowing the property to be shown to prospective tenants. The lease say that they should allow showings. They are leaving on November 1st. In this situation what can I do? Is it possible to deduct the financial damages that I face due to this from their security deposit. Or is the landlord helpless at this moment. --68.82.xxx.xxx




Refuse property entry (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2017 11:41 AM
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What damages do you face as a result of this?

Wait until November 2nd. --174.201.xx.xxx




Refuse property entry (by James [MO]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2017 11:54 AM
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You could always take some type of legal action, but they would be out before you got to court. If I were you, I'd wait until they were out. Personally I'd rather wait until they were out anyway.

When you think about it, as an illustration, if you had 10 units, losing a months rent on 1 unit probably amounts to less then 1% of your gross income. --24.243.xx.xx




Refuse property entry (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2017 12:17 PM
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For violating the lease, you could evict them (i.e. "the stick"), but that may not be the best approach. Have you tried the "carrot" approach yet? I offer $50, paid with their deposit refund, if they choose 2 times per week we can have set up for regular showings and the say good things about me. If we get an approved applicant who signs a lease before they move, it goes up to $100.

I doubt I would evict, but what I would do is if the refuse to allow showings, start giving the legal notice your state requires for showing, then if they refuse entry note down the date/time of the appointment and ding them $X per disallowed visit against their security deposit. In my lease, any time the tenant fails to allow scheduled access to the property it they pay a $25 fee or the cost of the service call (if a tradesman), whichever is greater.

When you ding them for that if they try to argue in court, "Well, yes your honor I WAS violating my lease left and right, but...." See how well that goes. --173.19.xx.xxx




Refuse property entry (by J [FL]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2017 12:21 PM
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I'm in Florida too and the PM I'm currently using has a flat $500 "inconvenience fee" if tenant doesn't cooperate with showings.

However that's written into the lease and it's too late for that now in your situation. It sounds like your clause does not have any specific penalty in it for not cooperating. And I don't know how it plays out if you try to deduct for something like this. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Refuse property entry (by wmh [NC]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2017 1:03 PM
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Can someone post the wording for an inconvenience fee? I haven't had the issue, but you never know! I want to spell it out. --173.22.xx.xx




Refuse property entry (by Emily [TX]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2017 1:13 PM
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I agree with the carrot approach. Give them an incentive to cooperate that will result in their doing so with a good attitude. Do you really want to force them to allow showings and possibly be in or around the property with the opportunity to bad mouth you to prospective tenants? Make it to their advantage to be cooperative and pleasant. --155.201.xx.xxx




Refuse property entry (by J [FL]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2017 1:37 PM
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WMH here is one:

"If Tenant fails to schedule the Inspection appointment during the 72 hours’ notification period, there will be a $50.00 rescheduling convenience fee; Tenant agrees to pay this fee along with the following month’s rent. Further if Tenant schedules with Landlord’s Agent but does not show up for the appointment, or if the Tenant has given permission for Landlord’s Agent to perform the Inspection alone and the locks have been changed there will be a $100.00 inconvenience fee." --72.188.xxx.xxx




Refuse property entry (by Lynda [TX]) Posted on: Sep 21, 2017 4:14 PM
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Natali, even tho you have it in your lease, which they signed, You have to pick your battles. If you are worried about the damage they could do if ticked-off, you shd back down on your pressure to show the place. Tenants have very valid reasons not to have a lot of complete strangers tramping thru their home. What is your rush??

Truly you shd never show your property to prospective tenants with someone else's junk in there. When filled with household goods, your property will look small, dark, and cluttered. People will have trouble imagining their own things in there. You shd only show your property when it is at its BEST! Clean, repaired, empty, with the sun coming in the windows. Then you place looks large, bright, and welcoming. People can see the wall space.

The better quality tenants will want to see a clean empty home. --108.87.xx.xxx




Refuse property entry (by Shaun [FL]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2017 4:53 AM
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I too have a "Showing" clause in my lease. However, I agree with Lynda(TX). I would rather get the property back, clean and least amount of damage, than taking a chance on ticking off an out going tenant. Secondly, my places do show better without another clutter.

To J(FL)-- This would/could fall under the 'Lease Violation' clause and if the Lease has a $$$ penalty than that could be charged. I agreed that the more specific Lease language speaking directly to Not allowing showings would be better and a stronger legal position.

BTW-- How did you fare with Irma? I had very little damage up here. Mostly clean up from all trees. Properties in Hillsbrough didn't even lose power. --205.223.xxx.xx




Refuse property entry (by J [FL]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2017 5:11 AM
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Shaun I didn't write that clause, it's in the PM's lease. --72.188.xxx.xxx




Refuse property entry (by J [FL]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2017 5:14 AM
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Thanks for asking...

I had fence damage at two rentals, and some soffit damage at one.

Much better than I expected it to be...we generally got lucky here but there were problems in a couple areas (flooding), but that didn't affect me. I never lost power.

--72.188.xxx.xxx




Refuse property entry (by Tom [FL]) Posted on: Sep 22, 2017 6:39 PM
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Hi Natali of FL, What IF you did Cash for Keys and you may get them out sooner with maybe minimal damage. What would it cost for you to get them out going via the eviction process. Do you think its worth $500 to give them or a $1,000. That being said you have certain criteria that they need to meet before you give them money. Don't hand them the money give them a list of criteria. --99.56.xx.xx





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