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PITA fights back! (by Robin [WI]) Sep 18, 2017 11:47 AM
       PITA fights back! (by Oregon Woodsmoke [OR]) Sep 18, 2017 12:08 PM
       PITA fights back! (by WMH [NC]) Sep 18, 2017 12:54 PM
       PITA fights back! (by S i d [MO]) Sep 18, 2017 1:26 PM
       PITA fights back! (by Barb [MO]) Sep 18, 2017 1:33 PM
       PITA fights back! (by Moshe [CA]) Sep 18, 2017 2:43 PM
       PITA fights back! (by NE [PA]) Sep 18, 2017 2:53 PM
       PITA fights back! (by Mike45 [NV]) Sep 18, 2017 3:20 PM
       PITA fights back! (by Vee [OH]) Sep 18, 2017 5:18 PM
       PITA fights back! (by Beth [WI]) Sep 18, 2017 6:12 PM
       PITA fights back! (by razorback_tim [AR]) Sep 18, 2017 6:22 PM
       PITA fights back! (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Sep 18, 2017 9:20 PM
       PITA fights back! (by RichE [IL]) Sep 19, 2017 7:26 AM
       PITA fights back! (by Mike45 [NV]) Sep 19, 2017 12:15 PM


PITA fights back! (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Sep 18, 2017 11:47 AM
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I should have known...

After being awarded full damages when my tenant no-showed in court, I received a certified letter with her appeal. She wants the case reopened because her failure to show was due to leaving the notice in the moving truck. And she would prevail if the case were reopened because the eviction was based on retaliation from landlord. (Uh, no. The eviction was because you stopped paying rent.)

A hearing on the motion to reopen will be held in two weeks. Will someone with more experience tell me whether I have to go, whether I can appear by phone, or if the commissioner will have the sense to see through it and deny the motion? --204.210.xxx.xxx




PITA fights back! (by Oregon Woodsmoke [OR]) Posted on: Sep 18, 2017 12:08 PM
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Of course you have to go. If you don't show up, the tenant wins by default. --70.199.xxx.xxx




PITA fights back! (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Sep 18, 2017 12:54 PM
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Certified letter? Is that how notices for court are delivered? Not around here - they are served by the sheriff and first class mail.

I once had a tenant send me a phony notice by certified mail. Called the court - they said "What is the case number?" No case number. Therefore no court. Even though it looked official with time and date of court etc.

(I'd forgotten about that until just now!) --173.22.xx.xx




PITA fights back! (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Sep 18, 2017 1:26 PM
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Robin, wasn't this tenant a paralegal? She certainly seems to know all the tricks... --173.19.xx.xxx




PITA fights back! (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Sep 18, 2017 1:33 PM
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Call the court Make sure it is really a hearing.

GO! In Person!

If you used a lawyer, take him along.

Take your evidence. Be prepared to present again right then. --131.151.xx.xx




PITA fights back! (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Sep 18, 2017 2:43 PM
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If you don't appear, then you have no opportunity to present your side of the issue or to challenge whatever the other side says. So the judge will have to make up his mind on the basis of what he hears from her.

I don't know anything about your courthouse, but it may be possible for you to appear by telephone. Ask the court. Also, ask yourself if you will be at any disadvantage by not being there personally. For example, if the other side wants to present any exhibits, do you think that you need to be there to examine the exhibit yourself?

--47.139.xx.xxx




PITA fights back! (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Sep 18, 2017 2:53 PM
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Here I'm pretty sure they have to put their unpaid rent in escrow before they can appeal an eviction for non payment. Check the stipulations on appeal where you are. --50.32.xxx.xxx




PITA fights back! (by Mike45 [NV]) Posted on: Sep 18, 2017 3:20 PM
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1. If you can easily confirm that the hearing is real, please do so. Here, it would be on-line.

2. If there is a hearing, attend. The issues are (1) whether the Tenant's failure to attend and defend is excusable and (2) if the Tenant has a valid defense to present if given a second chance. Your argument is (1) the Tenant had proper notice of the hearing, (2) the tenant could easily have verified the date/time of the hearing if the Tenant really did lose the notice, and (3) there is no defense to the non-payment of rent eviction.

Then, NE's point is a great one for you raise -- if the Court is to give the Tenant this second opportunity, the T should be required to post all unpaid rent with the court!

--71.38.xx.xxx




PITA fights back! (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Sep 18, 2017 5:18 PM
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Unfortunately you must attend to review anything that is taken in as evidence, however the first thing is request tenant place unpaid rent into escrow with court clerk, then this will reduce the amount that is in dispute about the deposit accounting statement, if the unit was unhabitable the tenant should have placed the rent in court escrow while the dispute was in court. --76.188.xxx.xx




PITA fights back! (by Beth [WI]) Posted on: Sep 18, 2017 6:12 PM
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If it's an inconvenient day for you to go to court, perhaps you could be there by phone/skype?

I have not seen that on CCAP for tenant cases, but have seen people "in court" so to speak by telephone for other cases.

My guess is if you do not show... she will win. She is qualified enough to know what to say if she is a paralegal. --24.177.xxx.xx




PITA fights back! (by razorback_tim [AR]) Posted on: Sep 18, 2017 6:22 PM
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IMO you need to be there. Your argument should be that the request for appeal should be denied because she received proper service but did not appear. The fact that the summons was in the moving truck - if that is indeed a fact - did not keep her from attending the court session. She merely forgot and is making excuses. If you feel unsure of yourself, hire counsel. --166.137.xxx.xx




PITA fights back! (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Sep 18, 2017 9:20 PM
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Robin,

Immediately, before the judge accepts her letter, deliver (have your atty do this if you are out of town) a motion to deny her motion to appeal. Fight back. This is what attys do- file motions to combat motions.

I would include that she is knowledgeable of the eviction process, is a paralegal, has the resources of her attorney employers, was very vocal about the process all along, and her claim she left the letter in the moving truck proves she knew to ne there.

Be aware the judge might allow her motion as a favor to his legal collegues.

Golly, I hope you have good move in pix.

Some court situatioms will allow you to add atty fees if extra hearings take place.

I've never heard of phoning in a court hearing. Cannot imagine that in my town. Altho persons incarcerated appear by video camera, their image projected on a blank wall in the courtroom!

(Maybe a hologram of yourself in 20 years! "Help me Obie Wan Kenobe!")

Best to ua!

BRAD

--68.50.xx.xxx




PITA fights back! (by RichE [IL]) Posted on: Sep 19, 2017 7:26 AM
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Brad is spot on - file your own motion to have the court uphold the original judgement. I just went through the same thing and my counter motion got the tenant's motion thrown out and I was able to complete the eviction to the chagrin and outrage of the tenant who thought she had stopped it. --98.213.xxx.xxx




PITA fights back! (by Mike45 [NV]) Posted on: Sep 19, 2017 12:15 PM
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Many of the Courts in California allow telephonic appearances through a private company called CourtCall. Although I take advantage of this for some simple appearances, where all we have to do is consult each other's calendars for scheduling purposes, I do NOT use CourtCall for any contested matter.

For a contested matter, I want to be able to see the judge and opposing counsel. In person, I can convey far more than when I am simply a voice on the phone. I need to be able to observe what points catch the judge's attention, what points are wasted effort, ... I am more effective in person.

So even if you are allowed to call it in, go in person!

--71.38.xx.xxx





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