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will not give ss # (by Laura [MD]) Aug 22, 2017 1:49 PM
       will not give ss # (by LindaJ [NY]) Aug 22, 2017 1:55 PM
       will not give ss # (by Ken [NY]) Aug 22, 2017 1:58 PM
       will not give ss # (by NE [PA]) Aug 22, 2017 1:58 PM
       will not give ss # (by razorback_tim [AR]) Aug 22, 2017 2:02 PM
       will not give ss # (by Pmh [TX]) Aug 22, 2017 2:18 PM
       will not give ss # (by Moshe [CA]) Aug 22, 2017 2:23 PM
       will not give ss # (by Laura [MD]) Aug 22, 2017 2:30 PM
       will not give ss # (by Mike45 [NV]) Aug 22, 2017 2:44 PM
       will not give ss # (by PGC [VA]) Aug 22, 2017 2:47 PM
       will not give ss # (by Sisco [MO]) Aug 22, 2017 2:54 PM
       will not give ss # (by laura [MD]) Aug 22, 2017 2:55 PM
       will not give ss # (by Pmh [TX]) Aug 22, 2017 2:56 PM
       will not give ss # (by laura [MD]) Aug 22, 2017 3:07 PM
       will not give ss # (by Deanna [TX]) Aug 22, 2017 3:12 PM
       will not give ss # (by Laura [MD]) Aug 22, 2017 3:14 PM
       will not give ss # (by WMH [NC]) Aug 22, 2017 3:18 PM
       will not give ss # (by Debbie [VA]) Aug 22, 2017 3:20 PM
       will not give ss # (by Johnny B. [MA]) Aug 22, 2017 3:22 PM
       will not give ss # (by Vee [OH]) Aug 22, 2017 3:28 PM
       will not give ss # (by Ed [PA]) Aug 22, 2017 6:47 PM
       will not give ss # (by Laura [MD]) Aug 22, 2017 7:18 PM
       will not give ss # (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Aug 22, 2017 8:02 PM
       will not give ss # (by David [MI]) Aug 23, 2017 6:21 AM
       will not give ss # (by Marie [MO]) Aug 23, 2017 6:26 AM
       will not give ss # (by bet [MA]) Aug 23, 2017 6:33 AM
       will not give ss # (by S i d [MO]) Aug 23, 2017 6:48 AM
       will not give ss # (by Jim [PA]) Aug 23, 2017 9:23 AM
       will not give ss # (by Andrew,Canada [ON]) Aug 23, 2017 1:04 PM
       will not give ss # (by Amy [MO]) Aug 23, 2017 1:57 PM
       will not give ss # (by TenantWhisperer [MA]) Aug 23, 2017 4:13 PM


will not give ss # (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2017 1:49 PM
Message:

I have a prospective tenant with a credit 700+. I gave them a link to have their credit run.

The issue is they will NOT provide me with their SS number on their application. Again a 3rd party ran their credit report. The credit report I get from the link I gave them does NOT contain the SS #.

I should I proceed. Part of me understands the issue with identity theft. The other part feels like I need the SS# is things go south and I want to go after them.

Also I don't like the idea of this guy not going with the program. Thoughts?

--108.28.xxx.xx




will not give ss # (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2017 1:55 PM
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My thoughts, they probably have good credit are aware of the issues of identity theft and are very careful. You have every right to refuse them if that is your choice, but you could be missing out on a good tenant. How is their rental history, how much is your rent, how nice of a place? --96.236.xx.xx




will not give ss # (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2017 1:58 PM
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They are trying to show you that they are going to be in charge of this relationship,if you allow them to not give you the ss# you will constantly have problems with these people because you have confused the landlord tenant relationship and allowed them to be in charge and they will think that should continue. --24.25.xxx.xxx




will not give ss # (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2017 1:58 PM
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Pass. You can't screen as usual. They are not going along with the systems you have in place and have already used with countless other tenants. --174.201.xx.xx




will not give ss # (by razorback_tim [AR]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2017 2:02 PM
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Pass. --166.137.xxx.xxx




will not give ss # (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2017 2:18 PM
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If you don't need it to run your own credit reports why do you need it ? You can use DL to track them down. I would pass on them though if they are giving you a hard time rather than a reasoned conversation with you why they don't feel comfortable sharing it. I refused to give my ss to my optician. there is no reason for them to have it. they still did eye exam which I paid for then filed myself with ins co. --104.218.xxx.xx




will not give ss # (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2017 2:23 PM
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How do you know that they have credit 700+ unless you get a credit report using SS#?

--47.139.xx.xxx




will not give ss # (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2017 2:30 PM
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Moshe...I send them a link. They provide info to the "link" application including SS#. The link asks them questions to verify their identity. The report the "link" provides me does NOT contain the SS#. --108.28.xxx.xx




will not give ss # (by Mike45 [NV]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2017 2:44 PM
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While I understand someone being reluctant to provide a SSN in this day of ID theft, I would not approve the application. I need a SSN to run my own credit check, and if things do not work out, I might need the SSN to execute a judgment against these applicants.

--71.38.xx.xxx




will not give ss # (by PGC [VA]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2017 2:47 PM
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Hi Laura;

I use Transunion smart move. I list my property with them and all the aqpplicant does is give me their email. I enter their email and the property. Transunion then sends them a website where they enter the information. As soon as they complete it, I get the email from transunion. The report doesnt give me their ssan, but does give me their score, and more importantly, it gives me any judgements and evictions. There is no money out of my pocket. The applicant pays transunion directly. If I dont like what I see, I send the applicant a quick text and tell them no. I had one applicant who told me she had no evictions, but Transunion told me she did. I put it all on her. I said it was up to her to dispute her credit report with them and I wasnt interested in the drama of it. I then received a call directly from transunion telling me that the customer was disputing the report, but everything they had, and they gave me the court room date and time, did in fact show the applicant was evicted with a judgement. I really like transunion smartmove because I show the property and take an email. I tell the applicant that unless it comes back spotless, I wont rent to them. Thos that have judgements wont even bother filling it out online so I never hear from them again. --100.4.xx.xx




will not give ss # (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2017 2:54 PM
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Pass. They have failed the resident cooperation test. --72.172.xxx.xx




will not give ss # (by laura [MD]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2017 2:55 PM
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PGC... the link I use works much like you describe. It also does NOT provide me with the SS#.

I need the SS# for collection purposes down the line.

I find the best time to gather info for collection purposes is at the application time. It is the only time you have leverage in getting this information. --108.28.xxx.xx




will not give ss # (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2017 2:56 PM
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She has credit report. The issue is applicants will not give her their socials for her files which she thinks she may need if she needs to go after them later. the consensus is pass since it appears they are already being difficult. I would suggest though in future since she doesn't need ss to run rpts herself perhaps require DL instead. If application requires social she can decline application since it is not complete.... --104.218.xxx.xx




will not give ss # (by laura [MD]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2017 3:07 PM
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Applicant has since emailed me saying they will provide Ss# on piece of paper when I do home visit. They are afraid (and I understand) computer compromise. I may begin offering that as an option going forward. --108.28.xxx.xx




will not give ss # (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2017 3:12 PM
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Remind me, are yours S8?

Do you use SS# to screen for criminal? Or does being in the S8 program mean that they've already passed S8's background check? --96.46.xxx.xx




will not give ss # (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2017 3:14 PM
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He is NOT S8. --108.28.xxx.xx




will not give ss # (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2017 3:18 PM
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Laura, pass. I understand the fear of identity theft but he is renting an apartment! He has to provide to a property management company, why not to you?

Find someone else. --173.22.xx.xx




will not give ss # (by Debbie [VA]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2017 3:20 PM
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You are to treat all applicants equally. If you don't require a SS# from this applicant, none of the others need provide it. PASS --66.18.xxx.xxx




will not give ss # (by Johnny B. [MA]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2017 3:22 PM
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Laura, when they provide the SS# on a piece of paper are you going to re-run the credit check to confirm the SS# they gave you matches their name? --24.147.xx.xxx




will not give ss # (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2017 3:28 PM
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The sec8 criminal screen consists of they are not incarcerated at the time of application (but could just easily send in a brother by the same last name, actually had one of these and by accident we found the correct first name spelling on envelope sent from institution - took picture not the mail! ), but if applicant can not provide it filled out - just hold till you can connect the dots, I have a 18inch deep drawer full of incomplete applications, in just 14 years - I can pile on about 2 inches on top of the existing ones... Then I may have to shred some. --76.188.xxx.xx




will not give ss # (by Ed [PA]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2017 6:47 PM
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You do not need a social security number to run a credit check. You can fill in a false ss# and the credit report will still come back in full with the only difference it will note the ss# does not match the number on file for the applicant. The credit check works on name and address.

In most states you do not need a ss# to file a landlord tenant complaint, civil complaint, or collect on a judgement.

With identity theft I wouldn't hold it against the applicant if everything else checked out. I myself have stopped providing my ss# to just anyone that asks for it. --96.236.xxx.xxx




will not give ss # (by Laura [MD]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2017 7:18 PM
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I want it for collection purposes. That is where having it can make the difference between success and failure. Also to get it onto the credit report you need the SS#. --108.28.xxx.xx




will not give ss # (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2017 8:02 PM
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Here applicants can refuse to provide social insurance number where they will have to provide a minimum of three pieces of photo copied identification. Drivers license, health card, birth certificate, passport or anything with picture on it. If no identification then a credit check can not be done. Birthday and complete name including middle initial must match. --174.116.xxx.xxx




will not give ss # (by David [MI]) Posted on: Aug 23, 2017 6:21 AM
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Plenty of non-LL lawsuits without SSN result in judgements that can be collected . --12.156.xxx.xx




will not give ss # (by Marie [MO]) Posted on: Aug 23, 2017 6:26 AM
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To: PGC [VA], I do the same thing with TransUnion SmartMove. --98.156.xxx.xx




will not give ss # (by bet [MA]) Posted on: Aug 23, 2017 6:33 AM
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This is not about their credit or SOC. This is about compliancy. They failed. Pass --96.233.xxx.xxx




will not give ss # (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Aug 23, 2017 6:48 AM
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They did not follow your procedures. Pass.

This all boils down to you MUST treat EVERYONE the same or you RISK a discrimination lawsuit. This one decision could result in huge fine for you. So they are welcome to go rent elsewhere. --173.19.xx.xxx




will not give ss # (by Jim [PA]) Posted on: Aug 23, 2017 9:23 AM
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You may need the SS # later for collections, and If they are will to go along with this procedure they probably will not follow others. I look for good credit/ background and willingness. --72.95.xxx.xx




will not give ss # (by Andrew,Canada [ON]) Posted on: Aug 23, 2017 1:04 PM
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Here a tenant who will not give their SS# has no "skin in the game". We are not allowed to collect damage deposits and the ss# is about the only hope we have of finding them if they move out with money owing.

Ontario tenants do NOT have to give their ss# when applying to rent, but my credit check company says they need a ss# to properly do the credit check.

I will accept applications from tenants who dont give their ss# but the application cant be processed, ie denied or accepted, it remains in limbo and another applicant is approved. --99.225.xx.xxx




will not give ss # (by Amy [MO]) Posted on: Aug 23, 2017 1:57 PM
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He doesn't have to provide ss if he's concerned about his identity. You also do not have to rent to him. For all you know that credit report could be of his dad!

Hubby had his social stolen. But he will provide if need be because he has a 7 year security lock on his credit.

If this guy has an issue, he could absolutely ask for the same. Pass.

Especially if you are using the credit score to qualify this guy. --136.32.xxx.xxx




will not give ss # (by TenantWhisperer [MA]) Posted on: Aug 23, 2017 4:13 PM
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This is an easy one. No SS# = no apartment.

That's the policy that protects me the most. Simple as that. --66.30.xx.xxx





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