Receipts for.... (by Steph [KS]) Aug 18, 2017 6:38 AM
Receipts for.... (by Deanna [TX]) Aug 18, 2017 7:07 AM
Receipts for.... (by Steph [KS]) Aug 18, 2017 7:23 AM
Receipts for.... (by Amy [MO]) Aug 18, 2017 7:51 AM
Receipts for.... (by Deanna [TX]) Aug 18, 2017 7:51 AM
Receipts for.... (by Doogie [KS]) Aug 18, 2017 8:47 AM
Receipts for.... (by S i d [MO]) Aug 18, 2017 9:33 AM
Receipts for.... (by melinda [MD]) Aug 18, 2017 9:43 AM
Receipts for.... (by Vee [OH]) Aug 18, 2017 11:23 AM
Receipts for.... (by cj [PA]) Aug 18, 2017 11:49 AM
Receipts for.... (by DIXIE [KS]) Aug 19, 2017 8:45 PM
Receipts for.... (by Steph [KS]) Aug 20, 2017 6:14 AM
Receipts for.... (by WMH [NC]) Aug 20, 2017 1:26 PM
Receipts for.... (by RentsDue [MA]) Aug 21, 2017 5:01 AM
Receipts for.... (by Steph [KS]) Aug 21, 2017 11:54 AM
Receipts for.... (by kkezir [KS]) Aug 22, 2017 5:33 AM
Receipts for.... (by Steph [KS]) Posted on: Aug 18, 2017 6:38 AM Message:
After move out I have had tenants ask for receipts of charges. What do you do about things that you bought in bulk and college students or high school students that you have paid cash for their labor?
Is there a place online to come up with the receipt or do you write a receipt out yourself?
How do you deal with this situation to have an accounting?
--66.87.xx.xx |
Receipts for.... (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Aug 18, 2017 7:07 AM Message:
You're referring to SD deductions?
I presume you already did something like:
5 hours' cleaning @ $10 hr = $50
4 blinds @ $10/blind = $40
Yard mowing = $50
and now they're wanting proof that you really paid your guys $10/hr to clean, your yard guy really cost $50, and that you really paid $10 per blind?
re: the blinds, suppose I buy four blinds for $5 each. But I also have to drive an hour and a half round-trip, and I also have to travel 90 miles round-trip, in order to pick them up. So I may well charge more than the purchase price.
Likewise, for my yard guy, the tenants are supposed to take care of the yards. Doing one last yard-mow is one of the things on the move-out checklist. If they don't mow the yard, I'll get my guy to mow it, but because they didn't life a finger to call their own yard guy, and just dumped it in my lap--- I have it built into my lease agreement that if I have to yard mow, it costs $x, even if my yard guy charges me less than $x.
I always keep my deductions reasonable, though, in case I ever have to defend them to anyone. I also generally play the, "As a courtesy, I did not charge you for ______..." card, so that the tenants are aware that if we want to get into critiquing the way the SD was handled, the math might not work in their favor if we decide to start debating charges... --96.46.xxx.xx |
Receipts for.... (by Steph [KS]) Posted on: Aug 18, 2017 7:23 AM Message:
Yes you are correct about them wanting receipts after the settlement statement was sent to them
They want true receipts for every line item. They want it accounted for in the form of a receipt
What do you all do? --66.87.xx.xx |
Receipts for.... (by Amy [MO]) Posted on: Aug 18, 2017 7:51 AM Message:
Unless you are being ridiculous or ripping them off then receipts aren't necessary.
If they fixed the items to begin with, you wouldn't have had to work to buy items, and call in your guys to help.
We give them a list of estimated charges at the beginning of the tenancy, and because the charges may change over the years, an adjusted one again at moveout. They are told what needs to be done, and if we took pics beforehand, they get those pics. The SD charge list is estimated usually slightly higher than what is necessary because of unforeseen circumstances that could occur.
For instance, I had one tenant trash a security module when they brought in another security company. They ripped ours out of the wall and cut the electric for the sensors.
Had to buy a new one, but we had already bought in bulk. I charged her the retail price(like if she had bought it herself) plus our time to install AND my office time if I had to reorder it. All of these things are charges that the tenant should have paid for with THEIR OWN TIME. No time to fix what you break? Then you pay for MY TIME to clean up your mess.
You do not need to provide receipts. Give them a break down of the charges, but no receipts. Just make sure that you aren't being ridiculous.
--107.77.xx.xxx |
Receipts for.... (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Aug 18, 2017 7:51 AM Message:
Kansas doesn't have any statute that says you're required to cooperate with such a request. In some states, items that are greater than a certain amount--- like in CA, if a deduction is greater than $126--- you are required to provide documentation of the charges along with your itemized list.
However, for the sake of good relations, I'd probably say something along the lines of, "You seem to have a concern. Which item, exactly, would you like more information about?" --96.46.xxx.xx |
Receipts for.... (by Doogie [KS]) Posted on: Aug 18, 2017 8:47 AM Message:
I give an itemized list, but no more. I wouldn't provide receipts. As stated above, make sure it's not overpriced, but you should be paid for your time too. --98.175.xxx.xxx |
Receipts for.... (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Aug 18, 2017 9:33 AM Message:
The only thing Missouri law requires me to give a receipt for it carpet cleaning. Check your state's laws and see what they require, if anything. I would not provide anything more than the law requires.
If they don't like the charge, they always had the option to A) not break the item or B) replace it themselves. --173.19.xx.xxx |
Receipts for.... (by melinda [MD]) Posted on: Aug 18, 2017 9:43 AM Message:
Just a tactic. They want receipts. Makes them feel in control. Good advice above. Lots of times we buy stuff on sale or in bulk. Go with the retail price. --69.161.xx.xxx |
Receipts for.... (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Aug 18, 2017 11:23 AM Message:
Here we must provide an accounting line by line, example mini-blinds from walmart - copy of reciept, royal plush carpet cleaning - copy of paid bill, repair busted walls and refinish (note that the word paint is absent), but I save the reciepts for court if they want to dispute - no reason to give a slingshot lawyer any ammo before hand, let the judge review first. So I just send a printed account of the expenses used to restore the unit and either a check or a due bill and suggest payment within 30 days to avoid legal action - most states are 30 days in rental rules. --76.188.xxx.xx |
Receipts for.... (by cj [PA]) Posted on: Aug 18, 2017 11:49 AM Message:
if you really want to go to the trouble to placate them, make a receipt. It's not that hard. --174.59.xx.x |
Receipts for.... (by DIXIE [KS]) Posted on: Aug 19, 2017 8:45 PM Message:
Kansas requires that you send them a final statement of the charges for damages that will be deducted from their deposit within 30 days. This requirement does NOT require receipts. I would ignore them. --184.52.x.xx |
Receipts for.... (by Steph [KS]) Posted on: Aug 20, 2017 6:14 AM Message:
Great comments and thanks for confirming my thoughts that I don't need to show receipts
Sent the settlement statement within the time frame so all is good there. I think this former tenant is trying to stall due to owing money above deposit. Yes I have them sign a charges guide at lease signing and the charges are reasonable.
Thanks again for your comments --66.87.xx.xxx |
Receipts for.... (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Aug 20, 2017 1:26 PM Message:
Receipts are for YOUR records not theirs. The settlement statement is for THEIR records.
I would text them: "Your written settlement statement is your receipt" and then cease to communicate. --173.22.xx.xx |
Receipts for.... (by RentsDue [MA]) Posted on: Aug 21, 2017 5:01 AM Message:
I always send pictures ( time and date stamped) of both the before and after. Pictures say a thousand words. Puts it right out there that you can prove they caused the damage. Usually they go away after that. --66.189.xx.xxx |
Receipts for.... (by Steph [KS]) Posted on: Aug 21, 2017 11:54 AM Message:
Pictures , move in and very reasonable charges....nope not going away. Grrrr --66.87.xx.xx |
Receipts for.... (by kkezir [KS]) Posted on: Aug 22, 2017 5:33 AM Message:
I had one that asked for receipts also after I had already sent out the deposit accounting within 30 days.
I told her I would look into it.
I did and found that I should have charged her more.. Although I didn't have receipt for some items because they were bought in bulk and such.
I ultimately failed to act on her request and she never contacted me again.
I now include a possible charge list with the lease (subject to change) and I include the same charge list with the move out letter.
I have only had this one person ask for receipts.
WMH I really like "Your written settlement statement is your receipt" Maybe I should start putting this at the bottom of my deposit accounting. --165.201.xxx.xxx |
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