Tenants rental rights (by Lindsay [TN]) Aug 18, 2017 3:09 AM
Tenants rental rights (by JR [ME]) Aug 18, 2017 4:00 AM
Tenants rental rights (by Vee [OH]) Aug 18, 2017 5:17 AM
Tenants rental rights (by S i d [MO]) Aug 18, 2017 6:18 AM
Tenants rental rights (by Deanna [TX]) Aug 18, 2017 6:52 AM
Tenants rental rights (by Steve [TN]) Aug 18, 2017 12:39 PM
Tenants rental rights (by L [TN]) Aug 18, 2017 2:46 PM
Tenants rental rights (by Pmh [TX]) Aug 18, 2017 2:48 PM
Tenants rental rights (by Pmh [TX]) Aug 18, 2017 2:54 PM
Tenants rental rights (by cjo'h [CT]) Aug 20, 2017 1:00 AM
Tenants rental rights (by Lindsay [TN]) Posted on: Aug 18, 2017 3:09 AM Message:
I am currently renting a house without a signed lease from my "friends". They decided to sell the house and give me a 90 days notice of move out then changed the date to 60 days. They also asked me to move all my stuff From spare rooms and the living. They continue to give me less than 24 hour notice of showings and even entered the property without notice and re arranged my personal belongings.
What are my rights as a tenant? Can they move my personal stuff and continue to take advantage of me? --69.137.xx.xxx |
Tenants rental rights (by JR [ME]) Posted on: Aug 18, 2017 4:00 AM Message:
In Maine, without a lease, the landlord only needs to give 30 days notice to a tenant to move. The landlord can enter the property for any reason with "reasonable" notice, whatever that is, but it is less than 24 hours in most instances.
So the things your landlord is doing that wouldn't fly here are:
1. Entering with no notice.
2. Moving your personal things.
You could call the police, but around here, they would be too busy to deal with what they would think is a petty dispute. You could file against the landlord in court, but you would have an extremely hard time proving any damages so you would almost surely not collect nothing.
Your wisest move is to speak with your landlord, try to reason with him to not enter your property ithout notice, and be there when he enters. Ditto asking him not to touch your stuff. 60 days pass quickly, and be sure to find a new rent that uses a written rental agreement and not move in until both parties have signed it. Good luck. --98.13.xx.x |
Tenants rental rights (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Aug 18, 2017 5:17 AM Message:
Most states are 30 days, start packing up, I would ask them to show on this evening or another afternoon - so you can have everything tidy to help them sell, start shopping and packing. --76.188.xxx.xx |
Tenants rental rights (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Aug 18, 2017 6:18 AM Message:
First, this is a land lord site, so you are going to get answers from a land lord's perspective. You may want to try Mr. Tenant.com, if such a thing exists...
The lease goes with the property. If the property gets sold, generally you are entitled to stay through the end of your lease regardless of what the new owners want unless you are in violation of the lease terms (non-payment of rent, unauthorized boyfriend lives with you, unauthorized pets, etc). In that case, they still have to formally evict you through the court.
I don't know TN law, but in Missouri a land lord can how a property for sale or for rent anytime during "reasonable" hours without notice. Reasonable is roughly defined as 7 am to 7 pm. Failure of a tenant to grant access when requested is grounds for eviction. TN might be different. Read up on your state's land lord / tenant laws. I personally go above what the law requires and give my tenants a minimum of 24 hours notice, but that's because I'm a nice guy, not because I have to.
Sounds like you and your "friends" might not have much of a relationship after this is all over. I don't rent to friends, family, relatives, co-workers, or church members...for this very reason. I won't rent to anyone whom I might have to evict and destroy a valuable relationship. I guess you guys figured you were different and could handle it. Sad to hear it's not working out.
Good luck. --173.19.xx.xxx |
Tenants rental rights (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Aug 18, 2017 6:52 AM Message:
You'd have to look at what things are in TN, but in many states, renting a house with only an oral agreement is considered being a tenant-at-will. In other states, renting a house with only an oral agreement is considered being a form of month-to-month tenancy. In both situations, they don't need to give a reason to terminate your agreement; they just need to give a 30-days' heads-up. Giving you three months' notice, and then changing their minds to two months' notice is still a month's worth of notice more than what the law (presumably) requires in your state.
I'm suspecting that they discovered it's hard to sell a house when it's full of "other people's stuff", and that might be the reason why they went from three months' to two months' notice. But that's only a guess. It's still very generous of them to give you the extra time to find a new place.
Re: the advance notice, Tennessee actually doesn't have any statute dictating how much heads-up a landlord needs to give a tenant. 24 hours is polite, but it's not breaking the law to say, "Hey, I have a showing after lunch today, fyi."
Rather than putting your energy into your disappointment about the change, and the way it's playing out, you need to put your energy into finding a new place. Then you can get your stuff secure, and get back into your routine, without the disruption from your friends.
It's always hard to mix friends and money. :) Enjoy it for what it was, but just because you're friends doesn't mean that you're married to the situation. Just like you could have bought a house or moved at any time, they can change their minds and sell at any time as well.
Good luck! --96.46.xxx.xx |
Tenants rental rights (by Steve [TN]) Posted on: Aug 18, 2017 12:39 PM Message:
Well, if you don't like it, I suppose you could move out. --208.84.xxx.xx |
Tenants rental rights (by L [TN]) Posted on: Aug 18, 2017 2:46 PM Message:
Well I am trying to move out in well under 30 days because the situation is clearly not ideal. Although I am fully aware (as a buyer myself) the needs of the owners to sell their house but they are violating the 24 hour notice required. So yes I am moving out because I don't like it, however, moving out does not happen over night, so I was trying to figure out my rights regarding my personal belongings being rummaged through. Eespecially since I paid rent in full for the month and can't even have access to half of the house. --96.85.xxx.xx |
Tenants rental rights (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Aug 18, 2017 2:48 PM Message:
although I am a LL I like to answer renter's questions so that there is communication from both sides. I do not know TN law but here in TX all I have to give you is 30 days. I think even in TN they have to give 24 hours minimum notice of entry (unless an emergency) bc that is a usual notice. 60 days is plenty of time so start looking. Maybe help with the staging for showings so goodwill when you leave. I can tell you no notice showings is probably against the law in all 50 states. That is just inconsiderate and I would not put up with that. As long as you are renting that is still your home regardless of who owns the property. So tell them no unannounced showings but you will be happy to be flexible. --104.218.xxx.xx |
Tenants rental rights (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Aug 18, 2017 2:54 PM Message:
Sid not correct. He may want to check LL rights to enter in MO without notice. --104.218.xxx.xx |
Tenants rental rights (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Aug 20, 2017 1:00 AM Message:
Lindsay,seeing you haven't a signed lease,you really don't have too many "rights".rearranging your personal stuff ,they're trying to send you a message without hurting you.r feelings too much,from my observation point.selling a house when empty is much easier than with all kinds of junk scattered around,so if you hold your friends in anyway kind of regard,just leave or make them an offer?Charlie...................................... --174.199.xx.xxx |
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