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financing changes?? (by BillW [NJ]) Aug 14, 2017 2:43 PM
       financing changes?? (by Pmh [TX]) Aug 14, 2017 3:03 PM
       financing changes?? (by Homer [TX]) Aug 14, 2017 4:47 PM
       financing changes?? (by Rangor [TN]) Aug 14, 2017 5:06 PM
       financing changes?? (by Pmh [TX]) Aug 14, 2017 5:27 PM
       financing changes?? (by Johnny B. [MA]) Aug 14, 2017 5:37 PM
       financing changes?? (by razorback_tim [AR]) Aug 14, 2017 5:52 PM
       financing changes?? (by BillW [NJ]) Aug 14, 2017 7:18 PM
       financing changes?? (by Shelby [IA]) Aug 14, 2017 7:40 PM
       financing changes?? (by LindaJ [NY]) Aug 14, 2017 8:01 PM
       financing changes?? (by Pmh [TX]) Aug 15, 2017 6:05 PM
       financing changes?? (by BillW [NJ]) Aug 15, 2017 8:04 PM
       financing changes?? (by Pmh [TX]) Aug 16, 2017 3:23 PM


financing changes?? (by BillW [NJ]) Posted on: Aug 14, 2017 2:43 PM
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Is there anything about my current financing you see I should change?

I own four rental homes, each with an average value of $600k (total value $2.4M). I owe an average of $260k on each of three homes (total loans $780k) and I own one home outright. I have about 25 years left to pay on the three $260k loans(30 year mortgages), and the three loans have an interest rate around 4.12%.

Is there anything that “jumps out” at you, that I should change, in terms of my loans? For example, should I refinance to 10 or 15-year loans, if I can handle the reduction in net rental income? I’m married and 55 years old. I have two children 16 and 18, who are college bound and in college. My wife does the accounting and our taxes.

Any thoughts on recommended financing changes are much appreciated. Thanks, Bill

--73.197.xx.xx




financing changes?? (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Aug 14, 2017 3:03 PM
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Refinance to 15 year fixed. That is what I have on my houses. Rates are 3.75 to 3.85 on mine. Payments Will be about the same. --97.94.xxx.xx




financing changes?? (by Homer [TX]) Posted on: Aug 14, 2017 4:47 PM
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I would not refi. Your rate is good, and with closing cost, and the extra half point for non owner occupied houses, I don't think you could do any better rate wise anyway. Run a new 15 year ammo on your own and start making that payment. Stick to it. --75.141.xxx.xxx




financing changes?? (by Rangor [TN]) Posted on: Aug 14, 2017 5:06 PM
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I agree with Homer. I like the wiggle room of a 30 year fixed with no prepayment penalty. I would not refi. --98.232.xxx.xxx




financing changes?? (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Aug 14, 2017 5:27 PM
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Run the $.....you may save more on interest even if just half a point..right now you have 25 years on your mortgages. You are paying nearly 100% interest now...run am.schedules --97.94.xxx.xx




financing changes?? (by Johnny B. [MA]) Posted on: Aug 14, 2017 5:37 PM
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I'd leave the mortgage as is and just make extra payments toward principal every month if you want it paid off quicker. Your current rates are excellent and even with going to a 15 year loan, you likely wouldn't do much better on the rate with a non-owner occupied rental property. Furthermore, leaving it as a 30 year gives you more options - you can choose to pay it off early by making extra principal payments, but you not locked into the higher payment should something else come up financially that you want to divert the cash towards (repairs, upgrades, or even another property). --24.147.xx.xxx




financing changes?? (by razorback_tim [AR]) Posted on: Aug 14, 2017 5:52 PM
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Here's what the math says... If you are at 4.125% and can refi to 3.75% on 15-year fixed, you need to be able to do that all-in on all costs for less than 2.5% of the loan amount. Otherwise you are better off paying the 2.5% as an immediate principal pay-down and calculating your own payment for paying it off on a 15-year amortization and paying the difference between that and your current payment as extra principal each month.

What would I do? I wouldn't refi. The math doesn't consider risks like extended vacancies, repairs and maintenance that you didn't anticipate and that sort of thing. If I wanted to try to pay these things off early, I would decide how much extra each month I could afford to pay and apply all of that to extra principal on one of the 3 loans until that one is paid off and the roll the total amount I have been paying on it monthly onto the next one as extra principal, and so on until they are all 3 paid off. --70.178.x.xx




financing changes?? (by BillW [NJ]) Posted on: Aug 14, 2017 7:18 PM
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Thanks so much everyone for your thoughts.

I do like the idea of the 30 year loan flexibility and the 4-1/8% is a pretty good rate.

Razorback_tim, I'm psyched now to start a plan to pay one of the houses off early. That would be nice! It's great the extra payment goes completely to principal paydown (I think).

Thanks. --73.197.xx.xx




financing changes?? (by Shelby [IA]) Posted on: Aug 14, 2017 7:40 PM
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I agree with Johnny. Just pay extra and they will be paid off sooner than the 25 years you have left. We have been paying $1000 payments on our $600/month loan that was a 30 year loan at 3.8% and we'll have it paid off in 10 years instead. It's well worth paying extra and saving interest. When we pay extra it goes automatically to the principal. --173.26.xx.x




financing changes?? (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Aug 14, 2017 8:01 PM
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I would not refinance either. Pay off early instead. However, make sure your payments are going to principal. You don't want to just be paying the next payment early. --96.236.xx.xx




financing changes?? (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Aug 15, 2017 6:05 PM
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no. not always best to pay extra each month.. although you shorten the number of payments by the time you are coming to the tail end it is mostly principal.. right now payments are mostly interest. the usual rule of thumb is unless a percent or more, after you factor in costs then not worth it. however. You are only 3 years into the note so you should run the actual numbers to see if better to switch from 30 years to 15 years with the lower rate & costs and take a hit now for greater savings over time. --97.94.xxx.xx




financing changes?? (by BillW [NJ]) Posted on: Aug 15, 2017 8:04 PM
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Pmh, I thought extra payments go completely to principal paydown.

As for the numbers, I will play around with some other loans when I'm not so tired. Thanks. --73.197.xx.xx




financing changes?? (by Pmh [TX]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2017 3:23 PM
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they do Bill. but you need to look at amortization schedules. in US the interest charged does not adjust on updated reduced principal if you pay down unlike in Europe, Australia & other countries. If you pay extra now all you are doing is reducing the timeline of paying off the note. At tail end your payments are mostly principal on whatever time frame your mortgage is on. All I am suggesting is run the numbers and don't be distracted by those who just say pay extra principal on your original note. that may not be the best long term financial decision. --166.137.xxx.xx





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