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Tenants Rights (by John [MA]) Aug 13, 2017 1:50 PM
       Tenants Rights (by Vee [OH]) Aug 13, 2017 1:58 PM
       Tenants Rights (by RB [MI]) Aug 13, 2017 1:58 PM
       Tenants Rights (by Ed [PA]) Aug 13, 2017 1:59 PM
       Tenants Rights (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Aug 13, 2017 3:39 PM
       Tenants Rights (by Lana [IN]) Aug 13, 2017 4:11 PM
       Tenants Rights (by Steve [MA]) Aug 13, 2017 4:19 PM
       Tenants Rights (by Barb [MO]) Aug 13, 2017 5:06 PM
       Tenants Rights (by AllyM [NJ]) Aug 13, 2017 5:41 PM
       Tenants Rights (by Deanna [TX]) Aug 13, 2017 6:27 PM
       Tenants Rights (by Deanna [TX]) Aug 13, 2017 6:31 PM
       Tenants Rights (by JR [ME]) Aug 13, 2017 7:23 PM
       Tenants Rights (by Steve [MA]) Aug 14, 2017 3:25 AM
       Tenants Rights (by Jeff [CO]) Aug 14, 2017 5:45 AM
       Tenants Rights (by Jeff [CO]) Aug 14, 2017 5:45 AM
       Tenants Rights (by S i d [MO]) Aug 14, 2017 8:30 AM
       Tenants Rights (by Jeff [CO]) Aug 14, 2017 9:16 AM
       Tenants Rights (by S i d [MO]) Aug 14, 2017 9:53 AM
       Tenants Rights (by Jeff [CO]) Aug 14, 2017 9:55 AM
       Tenants Rights (by Barb [MO]) Aug 14, 2017 10:01 AM
       Tenants Rights (by Andrew, Canada [ON]) Aug 14, 2017 1:51 PM
       Tenants Rights (by Jeff [CO]) Aug 14, 2017 1:54 PM
       Tenants Rights (by John [MA]) Aug 14, 2017 4:43 PM
       Tenants Rights (by Johnny B. [MA]) Aug 14, 2017 5:45 PM
       Tenants Rights (by John [MA]) Aug 14, 2017 6:06 PM
       Tenants Rights (by Jeff [CO]) Aug 14, 2017 6:14 PM


Tenants Rights (by John [MA]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2017 1:50 PM
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I have been renting a room in my home to my 18 year old niece. She shorted me on last months rent and is refusing to pay this month which is 2 weeks late. She's also allowing her boyfriend to stay now. He showers, does laundry amongst other things. This costs me added money because I'm responsible for all utilities. This past Friday I was awoken due to her having a huge party at my home with lots of underage drinking. I called the police. I also have locks on rooms I don't want them to enter but I know there breaking into them. What can I do? --67.242.xxx.xxx




Tenants Rights (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2017 1:58 PM
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Prolly the best thing to do is download and print your state/local tenant rules, when you put them into a 3ring binder flip the book over for the other set so they dont get mixed up, you are not done yet, now if you can find local rooming house/hotel rules you will be using these also as you are not renting the entire premise but only a segment, now speed read all this stuff so you know what goes on in the mind of a manager or owner who does what you have - seems funny reading the rules after you get into the business(or card game)but this is a requirement of the business person, the courts always hold the businessmen to the highest standard. Somewhere in there should be the timing period for posting notices of unpaid rent and the steps that follow to get a court date. It is hard to have a family member arrested for breaking and entering but if you have some proof things missing are in her possession then go ahead to the police and let them follow up - that is criminal but the unpaid rent is handled in a different court called civil, good luck. --76.188.xxx.xx




Tenants Rights (by RB [MI]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2017 1:58 PM
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Be thankful.

You are getting educated by your 18 year old Niece. --71.13.xx.xxx




Tenants Rights (by Ed [PA]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2017 1:59 PM
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Landlord rule #1 - never rent to family or friends

You can nicely tell them this is not working out and they need to go. If they don't leave voluntarily you will need to start the eviction process. As this is family it is almost certain to cause hard feelings within the family, whether you are in the right or not. --96.236.xxx.xxx




Tenants Rights (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2017 3:39 PM
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Google to find a landlords association where get local legal help on how to deal with the situation. Some jurisdictions if the rental unit is not self contained where this is apartment with a separate bathroom, kitchen you just lock them out other jurisdictions you may have to go with eviction process. A landlords association will be able to help what action can be taken. --72.142.xxx.xxx




Tenants Rights (by Lana [IN]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2017 4:11 PM
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Good luck. As Robert above says you may have a quicker solution. All states put their Landlord/Tenant laws online, and this is a good time to study up. You will have to make some family members mad, but she is doing you wrong. Avoid friends and family in the future because renting to them is one of the best ways to wreck the relationship. You learned a lesson here and it is your duty to teach her a lesson as well. I have found that the first rule of Landlording is:" No good deed goes unpunished." --152.131.x.xxx




Tenants Rights (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2017 4:19 PM
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I believe you are learning a valuable lesson, never rent to family or friends. That being said, do you have any kind of written rental agreement with your niece? How long has she been living with you? Is this a single family that you own or a multifamily building?

Your first step is to issue her a 14 day notice to quit for non payment of rent. There is is a very specific MA form to use depending upon whether she is a term tenant or a tenant at will. You must be able to prove that she received it. I suggest that you use either a sheriff or a local constable to do this for you. Once the 14 days are up you will have to have either a sheriff or a constable serve her with a summons to appear in court. Once you case is heard she has certain rights & there is also an appeal process available to her. If things go smooth you might have a court order telling her to leave in 6-8 weeks. If she uses legal aid & plays the victim it can take months to get her out.

Have you talked with her parents about this?

Have you considered offering her cash for keys?

If this is your first eviction, you might want to consider using a lawyer to handle things. --72.93.xxx.xxx




Tenants Rights (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2017 5:06 PM
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This is the home you live in?

The rules may be different than if you were renting the full house.

Do you have a written agreement?

Since the police have already been called, and an unauthorized person seems to be moved in, plus she is late, you may be able to lock them out, but I don't know.

Call a lawyer first thing tomorrow. --66.87.xx.xxx




Tenants Rights (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2017 5:41 PM
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It's owner occupied. I think you can just tell them to leave and they have to but I am fearing for your safety. I would get some friends of yours and put their stuff in the yard and change the locks then deal with the fallout later. They may try to wreck your car though so leave it somewhere else. Where is the girl's mother? She needs to be told her kid will be on the street so come get her. --73.33.xxx.xxx




Tenants Rights (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2017 6:27 PM
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If you own a house, and you rent a room in it to someone, that person is a tenant.

If you own a house, and you rent a room in it to someone, and you live in the house as well, that other person is a lodger.

www. lectlaw. com/ files/lat07.htm

is a good place to start, but an attorney is a better place to walk you through the process that's specific to your area.

From the website, though:

A Rooming or Boarding House Tenancy is different from the two other types of tenancies. Termination notices vary depending on the length of tenancy:

Length Notice Required

3 months 30 days

(*Exception: The landlord is only required to give a 7-day notice if tenant is disorderly or bothersome to other tenants OR if tenant pays weekly.)

After three months of tenancy, the rooming house tenant is considered a tenant-at-will and afforded all rights of a tenant-at-will.

A Tenant-at-Will is one who occupies a rented premises without a lease but pays rent periodically (typically monthly). The agreement for the Tenancy-at-Will may be either written or verbal. Either the landlord or tenant may terminate this arrangement by giving written notice 30 days or one full rental period in advance, whichever is longer. No reason is required to terminate. If rent is paid the first of each month, notice should be given prior to the first day of the month. However, either the landlord or the tenant may be able to give notice as late as the first day of the month itself. For extra protection send the notice both by certified mail, return receipt-requested, and by regular mail.

Rights Against Retaliation: Although the landlord of a Tenant-at-Will can terminate the tenancy or raise the rent without reason, s/he cannot do so in response to the tenant's exercising his or her legal rights. If the landlord tries to raise your rent, terminate or otherwise change your tenancy within six months of when you contact the Board of Health, join a tenants' organization, or exercise other legal rights, the landlord's action will be considered retaliation against you. Unless the landlord can prove that s/he is changing the tenancy for reasons other than your having exercised your rights, the landlord will not be able to raise the rent, change or terminate the tenancy. While the law does offer this protection, be aware that the landlord may attempt to retaliate against you. See information on counterclaims under "EVICTION"

Late Payment Penalty: Tenants should pay rent on time. The landlord can't charge any interest or a penalty until 30 days after the due date. However, the landlord can begin the eviction process immediately - even if the rent is only one day overdue. (M.G.L., c. 186,sec 15B). The landlord also cannot use a reverse penalty clause to encourage tenants to pay early. For example, it is illegal for a landlord who charges $400 per month to reduce the rent by 10% if the rent is paid within the first five days of the month.

Termination vs. Eviction: Termination is different from eviction. Termination is the ending of your rental agreement or lease. Either the landlord or tenant can initiate the termination of the tenancy. Eviction is the forced removal of a tenant from an apartment after termination. Eviction can only be ordered by a judge. The landlord cannot lock you out or throw you out of your apartment. (See section on Eviction) --96.46.xxx.xx




Tenants Rights (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2017 6:31 PM
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The forum did something wonky, thinking I was trying to write tags...

Length Notice Required

If the lodger has been in place less than 30 days, no notice is required

If the lodger has been in place from 30 to 90 days, seven days' notice is required

If the lodger has been in place for greater than 3 months, they require 30 days' notice

After slogging through a lot of other stuff that's important to read, I also noticed:

EVICTION

IF YOU ARE A TENANT WITH A LEASE, your landlord may attempt to evict you if:

* You have not been paying your rent (Non-Payment Eviction)

* You or people under your control have caused excessive damage to the apartment or you have violated terms of your lease (e.g., subletting or pets without permission) (Other Cause Eviction)

Your landlord must first send you a "Notice to Quit." The terms of your lease will dictate the notice required. Typically, if you are being evicted for non-payment of rent, you must receive a 14-day notice by law, and for other-cause eviction, notice as specified in the lease,typically a 7-day notice.

IF YOU ARE A TENANT-AT-WILL, your landlord is not required to give you any reason for termination of your tenancy, but there must be reason to evict. The fact that your landlord has terminated your tenancy-at-will, however, constitutes sufficient reason. The termination notice (see "Types of Tenancies") is the "Notice to Quit."

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO MOVE OUT OF YOUR APARTMENT AFTER THE 14 OR 7 DAYS. You may only be evicted from your apartment when a judge orders you evicted. If this is the first time in a 12-month period that you are being evicted for non-payment of rent, you may avoid eviction by paying up any rent owed within ten days of receipt of the notice. The notice of a tenant's rights to cure in a non-payment case must appear on the "Notice to Quit." If the notice does not appear, as it may not in the case of a tenant-at- will, the tenant has until the date the Answer is due to pay up back rent.

Good luck on getting things straightened out. --96.46.xxx.xx




Tenants Rights (by JR [ME]) Posted on: Aug 13, 2017 7:23 PM
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John, if your niece is living in a bedroom in your home, where you live, in the same living quarters, e.g. You share the kitchen, laundry, etc., and if you have nothing in writing (why do I have the sense you have nothing in writing), then,...air for her to leave, invite over several friends of yours, throw everything of hers into the street and change the locks. In the extremely unlikely event that she calls the police, just refuse to answer their questions, play dumb . --98.13.xx.x




Tenants Rights (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Aug 14, 2017 3:25 AM
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John,a little more info from you would help us point you in the right direction.

Do you actually own this property or are you renting it?

Do you have any kind of written agreement with your niece?

How long has she lived there & paid rent to you?

Are there any others who also rent rooms at this property?

Are you over 60?

Was anyone charged or arrested when the police came?

Was anyone present during the booze party over 21 besides you?

Does your community go after the parents/ host /property owner when they raid a party like this.

Have you applied for a restraining order against the boyfriend, or niece of anyone else?

Hopefully this morning you contact a lawyer to straighten this mess out for you. --72.93.xxx.xxx




Tenants Rights (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Aug 14, 2017 5:45 AM
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Assuming your post is real - and I'm not sure it is:

You need to contact a lawyer who handles evictions as soon as possible and move to get her out as fast as you can.

Don't change locks or do anything else that could be considered a self-help eviction unless you're on strong legal footing.

There is no reason to talk to her parents - she's an adult.

Never offer cash for keys.

When she is out you will have to do a lot of work on the house - including changing the locks.

--174.51.xx.xxx




Tenants Rights (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Aug 14, 2017 5:45 AM
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Assuming your post is real - and I'm not sure it is:

You need to contact a lawyer who handles evictions as soon as possible and move to get her out as fast as you can.

Don't change locks or do anything else that could be considered a self-help eviction unless you're on strong legal footing.

There is no reason to talk to her parents - she's an adult.

Never offer cash for keys.

When she is out you will have to do a lot of work on the house - including changing the locks.

--174.51.xx.xxx




Tenants Rights (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Aug 14, 2017 8:30 AM
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Your state laws may vary from other states represented on this forum in regard to what is legal, but regardless it's way past time to take action. There is no redeeming this situation. Just get her out ASAP. Call a lawyer if you need to.

Personally, I would give her a 24 hour notice to vacate the premises, and anything left after that time (including the boyfriend) will be dumped on the curb for the trash man and the "pickers" along with a big "FREE" sign. If she decided she wanted to take me on in court...GAME ON!

--173.19.xx.xxx




Tenants Rights (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Aug 14, 2017 9:16 AM
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Sid's first sentence is correct, but contacting a lawyer is a must. The second one? Sorry, but that's very bad advice.

The owner could be setting himself up for a lot of legal hassles and expense.

John doesn't say how long his niece has been living there. Maybe her car is registered to that address. It's where she gets her mail. Maybe she has a 1-year lease and she's a few months in. Maybe, or maybe not. What does the law say?

Tossing her out and putting her stuff on the lawn would be self-help eviction in many situations. Terrible idea.

John got himself into this mess, but he has to get out of it in a way that doesn't makes things a lot worse.

--174.51.xx.xxx




Tenants Rights (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Aug 14, 2017 9:53 AM
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Wherever did I give anyone advice in the 2nd paragraph? Phrases like "personally" and "if she took me to court" ought to be plenty of warning that crazy talk with potential consequences are coming...I'd guess anyway...maybe not. I don't know anything. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. --173.19.xx.xxx




Tenants Rights (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Aug 14, 2017 9:55 AM
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ell, I certainly used the wrong word. Not advice - my mistake. --174.51.xx.xxx




Tenants Rights (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Aug 14, 2017 10:01 AM
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John, Are you a landlord of other property? How long has this young person been living with you?

If no written agreement, and she has only been there a couple of months, I'd do like Sid and just lock her out. Box all her stuff and set it on the porch, or deliver it to her parent's home.

If she comes back to you after getting Legal Aid or similar, I can imagine saying, "Your Honor, I was allowing my niece to stay with me, and she was supposed to contribute $X per month to pay for the added wear on my home and utilities. She decided she would rather blow it on this good for nothing boyfriend, alcohol and who knows what else. When I was wakened by a party with drinking and the police ended up at my home, I had to protect myself. So, yeah, I kicked her out. She is an adult, and apparently needs a lesson from the school of hard knocks, so that she can really learn to be an adult." --131.151.xxx.xxx




Tenants Rights (by Andrew, Canada [ON]) Posted on: Aug 14, 2017 1:51 PM
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I think we have just been sucked into tenant drama.

Some 19 replies to John (MA) and not one response from the original poster. --70.30.xx.xxx




Tenants Rights (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Aug 14, 2017 1:54 PM
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I see what you mean. I wrote: 'Assuming your post is real - and I'm not sure it is." --174.51.xx.xxx




Tenants Rights (by John [MA]) Posted on: Aug 14, 2017 4:43 PM
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Yes the post is real. She is basically renting a spare bedroom in a home I own. I do not have any other rental properties. She's been there for about 5 months. --74.76.xxx.xx




Tenants Rights (by Johnny B. [MA]) Posted on: Aug 14, 2017 5:45 PM
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If there is nothing in writing and she is showing you this level of disrespect, I'd throw her stuff out on the curb and change the locks. I'd wadger that its highly unlikely that she is going to pursue a legal avenue after you throw her out. --24.147.xx.xxx




Tenants Rights (by John [MA]) Posted on: Aug 14, 2017 6:06 PM
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Yes nothing in writing --74.76.xxx.xx




Tenants Rights (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Aug 14, 2017 6:14 PM
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Nothing in writing... Sorry, gotta shake my head when I read stuff like this.

What did your lawyer say about how to handle this, or do you plan on doing it on your own?

Despite what others have said, you can’t just put their things on the sidewalk or in storage and change the locks. Self-help evictions are illegal. The only way to deal with evicting a roommate is to file a lawsuit. --174.51.xx.xxx





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