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Insulation how to (by AL [NC]) Jun 19, 2017 12:10 PM
       Insulation how to (by NE [PA]) Jun 19, 2017 12:12 PM
       Insulation how to (by Ken [NY]) Jun 19, 2017 12:26 PM
       Insulation how to (by Steve [MA]) Jun 19, 2017 12:41 PM
       Insulation how to (by Vee [OH]) Jun 19, 2017 12:48 PM
       Insulation how to (by plenty [MO]) Jun 19, 2017 1:01 PM
       Insulation how to (by Richard [MI]) Jun 19, 2017 1:53 PM
       Insulation how to (by S i d [MO]) Jun 19, 2017 2:00 PM
       Insulation how to (by Busy, busy, busy [WI]) Jun 19, 2017 2:48 PM
       Insulation how to (by AL [NC]) Jun 19, 2017 3:15 PM
       Insulation how to (by NE [PA]) Jun 19, 2017 3:22 PM
       Insulation how to (by Robert,Ontario,Can [ON]) Jun 19, 2017 3:36 PM
       Insulation how to (by #22 [MO]) Jun 19, 2017 4:47 PM
       Insulation how to (by Smokowna [MD]) Jun 19, 2017 5:24 PM
       Insulation how to (by nh [NH]) Jun 20, 2017 3:28 AM
       Insulation how to (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Jun 20, 2017 7:39 AM
       Insulation how to (by Blue [IL]) Jun 20, 2017 8:06 AM
       Insulation how to (by AllyM [NJ]) Jun 20, 2017 9:21 AM
       Insulation how to (by AL [NC]) Jun 21, 2017 5:04 AM
       Insulation how to (by Deanna [TX]) Jun 21, 2017 6:01 AM


Insulation how to (by AL [NC]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2017 12:10 PM
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I have the cutest house. It's older/1935. People's ask about the utilities. I called Duke Energy for an estimate on avg bill. He said $152 a month! I never had tenant complain but that's high. All walls are up. Best way to insulate? Thx --174.193.xxx.xx




Insulation how to (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2017 12:12 PM
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I'd leave it be if no one is complaining. I probably wouldn't offer that info either, because it's largely based on consumption. Each tenant will be different --174.201.xx.x




Insulation how to (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2017 12:26 PM
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I agree 100% with NE --24.25.xxx.xxx




Insulation how to (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2017 12:41 PM
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What is the exterior siding?

What is the interior wall covering?

Have you actually checked to see if there is any insulation in the walls, ceiling or floor?

Do you know if there is any knob & tube wiring?

Depending upon the answers to the above questions, it might be easy to blow some insulation into walls or ceiling.

At the very least with a couple of tubes of caulking & possibly a can of low expansion spray foam, you could seal up some of the sources of air infiltration. --72.93.xxx.x




Insulation how to (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2017 12:48 PM
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If you are serious (some have no clue) look at the blowinsulation on you tube, it takes planning every step of the way, each surface will have something specific - there is no silver bullet to insulate, get the hard material like baffles and rolled product beforehand at sale prices, then when the unit is empty you can go to it with the blower box and hoses and it will be very dusty - nearly impossible to do this with a tenant there unless on a 2 month holiday not coming back to get clothing or anything because all the furnishings we be wrapped in tarps in the middle of the rooms and the tenant will still find fluff inside something for the next 6-8 months, your ears will be ringing loudly until you replace them, Just do the planning now, have someone drop in and take a few pictures every 2-3 hours so you can show them at sale time, it will take a day to get all the fluff cleaned up, cabinets and windows washed for the next renter, just dump all the sweepings into the attic. --76.188.xxx.xx




Insulation how to (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2017 1:01 PM
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It was common at some point that changed. I have same thing at a house. It's just what it is. Perhaps u can get quotes to insulate, i would not do it to sastify tenant request only as an improvement to the property and future benefits. --66.87.xx.xxx




Insulation how to (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2017 1:53 PM
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These type jobs are best done by an insulation contractor. They get the stuff way cheaper than you can and have all the special tools.

You might also check with your city for weatherization programs. --66.188.xx.xxx




Insulation how to (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2017 2:00 PM
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My local utility company offers rebates (read "subsidies") on insulation. Might check if your does something similar. Without tearing into the walls, blown-in cellulose in the attic is about as much as can be done cost effectively. Messy, hot, sweaty work. Otherwise, seal it up from air flow as best as possible.

$150 isn't incredibly unusual. How big is the place? I have small, "cute" houses too, and that's a normal rate I see. How much of that $150 is due to the privilege of being hooked to the grid vs. based on actual usage? That will give you a baseline to determine how much savings could actually be achieved. My houses run me about $70/month, even when vacant and no usage.

From what I've learned, most energy efficiency additions do not have an acceptable payback time. Many public utility companies and Govt have to subsidize them heavily like mine does or homeowners (read, people with long-term interest in saving $) will not do the upgrades. Reducing air infiltration has the best dollar for dollar payback. Windows are some of the worst. --173.19.xx.xxx




Insulation how to (by Busy, busy, busy [WI]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2017 2:48 PM
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In North Carolina, good shade trees will do a lot to affect utilities. The key is right plant, right place. A good nursery can provide guidance.

I know many landlords don't like trees because of the maintenance, but, again, right plant, right place helps with that. I plant /maintain trees at all of my properties. I cannot stand to be hot! --70.92.xxx.xxx




Insulation how to (by AL [NC]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2017 3:15 PM
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The home is 1049 sq ft, has 7 rooms ( 2 bd/1 bath, kitchen, L/R. laundry, mud room) All new windows in Feb 2017. I even had the kitchen redone in April 2017 but didn't think to insulate the outside wall. Exterior is vinyl siding and interior is sheet rock. The rooms have original ship lac walls' probably not much insulation there. It'shaded. A big tree in the front and one near the back room. Do you think $150 monthly avg is a lot? --108.64.xxx.xx




Insulation how to (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2017 3:22 PM
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Al, when I've called for an idea of monthly average up here in the cold north, I am around a $150 a month for a unit with electric heat. I'd say your fine and by your own admission they haven't complained.

It may seem high to you because you are cost conscious and keep your utility consumption to a minimum. Tenants, not so much.

They run every gadget, leave lights on and heat the place with the windows open. So $150 is jaw dropping to you.

I'd put the money elsewhere, because soon enough you will have a repair that you wished you had that money for. --74.46.xx.xx




Insulation how to (by Robert,Ontario,Can [ON]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2017 3:36 PM
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Best to insulate is break out all the walls then spray foam. Another option is break out then install rigid board then tape up joints tight so no air leaks. Third option is install rigid board outside then stucco or install siding. There are many videos on You Tube about installing installing insulation. Installing a high efficiency heat pump will use about half the power for heating or cooling. Electric heat is the most expensive heating system. --207.164.xxx.xxx




Insulation how to (by #22 [MO]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2017 4:47 PM
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With no complaints, I'd let the sleeping dog....sleep. Richard nailed it: go with a contractor. I get a 1500 sf home insulated for around $1300. I think that's pretty cheap for what I get... --216.7.xxx.xxx




Insulation how to (by Smokowna [MD]) Posted on: Jun 19, 2017 5:24 PM
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I just like Sid's comments.

I have absolutely nothing to add.

(said the landlord who didn't want to insulate) --74.96.xxx.xxx




Insulation how to (by nh [NH]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2017 3:28 AM
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HIRE AN ENERGY AUDITOR - CALL DUKE ENERGY FOR HELP --96.61.xx.xx




Insulation how to (by Robert,OntarioCanada [ON]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2017 7:39 AM
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A energy efficient rental unit will bring a higher rent along with lower vacancy rate so over a period of time the upfront costs will be paid for. If they phase out coal fired generating power stations then the cost of electricity will go up. There are net zero buildings out there which do not require a heating or cooling system which are going to be the future. No one knows what the cost of electricity, natural gas or oil will be in five years from now. In a competitive rental market a rental unit with lower energy consumption is going to stand out along with will command a higher rent. Follow everyone else or go far and beyond other rental units. --184.147.xx.xxx




Insulation how to (by Blue [IL]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2017 8:06 AM
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Our local energy company had a good special on this a few years ago and I did one small house. Cost me less than one months rent and made probably 25% difference on their bills.

$150, I don't think it's bad. I have a house for sale right now that is empty. The only light I am leaving on is a porch light that has a dust to dawn sensor.

The last two months it's been empty the bill has been $58/mo. That's not having any power usage. So, I don't think $150 is out of line at all. --75.132.xxx.xx




Insulation how to (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2017 9:21 AM
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I have a cute 1948 house here in NJ and I think the figure you got may be wrong. Did the "expert" specifiy that it was electric or gas? Do you have electric or gas heat? My worst bill from my Cute Cape Cod in January in NJ is usually about 250 and that includes gas heat and electric to run the heat, washer and dryer in basement and a water heater and the lights out front and the hall and basement. --73.33.xxx.xxx




Insulation how to (by AL [NC]) Posted on: Jun 21, 2017 5:04 AM
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Guys, I called Duke Energy for an assessment and was told that it's not being offered in my area. I got get with my neighbors and change this. --108.64.xxx.xx




Insulation how to (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Jun 21, 2017 6:01 AM
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Whatever you do, avoid the blown-in cellulose.

We tried it for our former primary residence. He was in the attic, blowing it in; I was on the ground, feeding the hopper. The actual process of blowing it in was so dusty and nasty and unpleasant and stressful, I swear, we were inches from divorce at that moment. ;)

Afterwards, we'd find the cellulose would occasionally shift down into the house, like around vent holes and things like that. Not a big deal-- but not invisible.

We live in a dusty part of the world--- blowing in cellulose (which is pretty much paper bits) didn't help with the dust. And when I wanted to get into the attic to look at lines or vents, the cellulose really got in the way of seeing things, or moving things if I wanted to do something.

Our current primary residence has really awesome insulation. It has old-fashioned insulation (like maybe from the 50's? the 70's? the 90's?) that's enclosed in plastic, and has been attached to the underside of the roof. So it leaves the floor of the attic bare; all the insulation is overhead. I don't know the term for it, or how much it costs to install. But I'd look into it and fiberglass before I ever gave a thought to repeating my experiment with blown-in cellulose. The one thing that is good about the cellulose is that it has some sort of boric acid fire retardant that the fiberglass batts generally seem to lack. --96.46.xxx.xx





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