Legality of business name
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Legality of business name (by Robin [WI]) May 22, 2017 6:18 AM
       Legality of business name (by Vee [OH]) May 22, 2017 6:29 AM
       Legality of business name (by S i d [MO]) May 22, 2017 7:00 AM
       Legality of business name (by Pattyk [MO]) May 22, 2017 8:33 AM
       Legality of business name (by Ken [NY]) May 22, 2017 10:04 AM
       Legality of business name (by Deanna [TX]) May 22, 2017 10:28 AM
       Legality of business name (by Peter [WI]) May 23, 2017 10:19 AM
       Legality of business name (by Kyle [IN]) May 23, 2017 6:17 PM
       Legality of business name (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) May 23, 2017 10:18 PM


Legality of business name (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: May 22, 2017 6:18 AM
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We're working on developing a better business name. If we find a "Porchlight Properties" in Florida, can we be "Porchlight Properties" in Wisconsin? What makes a name official to the point where we can't use it? We're finding that most names based on real words are in use by someone, somewhere, but many of them are clearly mom-and-pop operations or very limited geographically. Any lawyers out there that can clarify?

--174.96.xx.xxx




Legality of business name (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: May 22, 2017 6:29 AM
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You need to determine at each state dept of commerce if the name is in use, and if you make the name change on deed or insurance you will then need legal representative for everything, I would suggest registering in each state but in your office door - Robin, DBA post light property- so you can stay in control.

--76.188.xxx.xx




Legality of business name (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: May 22, 2017 7:00 AM
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I don't know the legalities precisely, but considering I have seen a variation of "ABC Properties" in just about every major market I've visited in multiple states, I think you're okay as long as you're not infringing on an already registered business in your state or a federally protected trade mark nationwide. For example, you would't want to call yourself "Microsoft..."

My understanding of trademarks are they were designed to avoid "brand confusion" so that customers would not be confused when choosing a company with which to do business, thereby costing an existing business some of its sales. Since you and this other business are in different states and I seriously doubt your rental markets overlap, I believe you are safe.

Keep in mind considerations such as is your website domain available, etc.? --173.19.xx.xxx




Legality of business name (by Pattyk [MO]) Posted on: May 22, 2017 8:33 AM
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Are u thinking if buying properties in Florida with that name? If not I'd think you are ok. Nice name... Rent on! --66.87.xx.xx




Legality of business name (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: May 22, 2017 10:04 AM
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In my state if you are getting a name for a corp or LLC the dept of state will tell you if you can have it or not so maybe the same in your state.A dba is taken on a county by county basis but even if you have a dba name someone else can use the same name in a corp or LLC then make you stop using the name.The more details you give us the better we can help. --24.25.xxx.xxx




Legality of business name (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: May 22, 2017 10:28 AM
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In Texas, when you submit an LLC for approval, the Comptroller's office checks what's doing business in Texas. There's a Taxable Entity Search so we can check ahead of time, too.

So, using your Porchlight example, we have:

Porchlight Consulting, LLC

Porchlight Properties, LLC

Porchlight Realtors, LLC

Porchlight Services, LLC

So you can do "Porchlight Homes, LLC" or "Porchlight, LLC" or whatever you want, as long as it's different.

However, once the business that you're trying not to conflict with is large enough, they'll be more specific about preventing people from conflicting with it. I wanted to do a particular word from a foreign language; there was a medical billing/healthcare/something company that used something similar. My word was ***is; their word was ***i. Even though we were totally different fields, and the word was totally different for anyone who knew the source language, my name got rejected for being too close to this much larger company. So I finally clarified things by tacking on a real-estate-y word to the end, and it passed with no problems.

On the other side of things, I had an LLC I was naming, where there were already [word] Imports, [word] Subsea Services, etc, etc, etc. I went ahead and just went with [word] and it passed with no problems.

I also had a recycled LLC that I used for our first batch of houses, but wanted to modify its name. I went to the County Clerk and got a DBA. So I'm less familiar with how much checking goes on at the DBA level versus the LLC, but long story short, it doesn't cross state lines--- the entity needs to register in your state to be protected. (ie, Ford Motor Company.) --96.46.xxx.xx




Legality of business name (by Peter [WI]) Posted on: May 23, 2017 10:19 AM
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Robin, there is already a Porchlight Properties in WI. Not mine, but I recognize the name from listings I've looked at. Not sure if that's just an example or if you are considering it. You can search for registered names at the Wisconsin DFI site under "corporations."

--67.53.xx.x




Legality of business name (by Kyle [IN]) Posted on: May 23, 2017 6:17 PM
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I think you should be ok with a name unique to your state. There is case law from Burger King of Florida (the Burger King we all know) and Burger King of Mattoon, Illinois. When Burger King expanded into Illinois, the small family owned restaurant of the same name in Mattoon sued to protect their name. The chain Burger King filed their own suit in federal court. Because Burger King (the chain) had registered their name as a federal trademark and Burger King of Mattoon had only filed with the state law, Burger King (the chain) was given the right to used the name Burger King in IL. But, because Burger King of Mattoon had been using the name first, they were granted the exclusive right to use the name within 20 miles of Mattoon IL.

So, if the Florida Porchlight is not currently operating in WI, I think you can secure the name for use in WI. If they expand in the future, even if they trademark the name, I think your use of the name in advance of the trademark protects your rights.

Not an attorney, so you may want to check with one. --73.102.xxx.xx




Legality of business name (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: May 23, 2017 10:18 PM
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Robin,

I don't know the details.

But I DO know this: Make the name easy to say over the phone, easy to spell, not "cute" like House4U, available as a website (search on GoDaddy), short enough to be on one line in the newspaper classifieds.

GoDaddy used to have a good article about choosing a name. BRAD --68.50.xx.xxx





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