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Ceramic vs linoleum (by Tom [IN]) May 22, 2017 4:36 AM
       Ceramic vs linoleum (by NE [PA]) May 22, 2017 4:39 AM
       Ceramic vs linoleum (by Steve [TN]) May 22, 2017 5:13 AM
       Ceramic vs linoleum (by Mickie [OH]) May 22, 2017 5:25 AM
       Ceramic vs linoleum (by Dan [IL]) May 22, 2017 5:29 AM
       Ceramic vs linoleum (by Dve [MO]) May 22, 2017 5:33 AM
       Ceramic vs linoleum (by Pattyk [MO]) May 22, 2017 5:34 AM
       Ceramic vs linoleum (by Nicole [PA]) May 22, 2017 5:40 AM
       Ceramic vs linoleum (by LindaJ [NY]) May 22, 2017 6:25 AM
       Ceramic vs linoleum (by Richard [MI]) May 22, 2017 7:02 AM
       Ceramic vs linoleum (by Chris [VA]) May 22, 2017 7:21 AM
       Ceramic vs linoleum (by AllyM [NJ]) May 22, 2017 8:19 AM
       Ceramic vs linoleum (by Lynda [TX]) May 22, 2017 8:20 AM
       Ceramic vs linoleum (by Robert,Ontario,Can [ON]) May 22, 2017 9:38 AM
       Ceramic vs linoleum (by Robert J [CA]) May 22, 2017 10:47 AM
       Ceramic vs linoleum (by Robert,Ontario,Can [ON]) May 22, 2017 9:18 PM


Ceramic vs linoleum (by Tom [IN]) Posted on: May 22, 2017 4:36 AM
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II know lots of people here likes Allure but it is not an option at this time.

I am considering between Linoleum sheet flooring vs. ceramic tiles from Lowes.

It's my cheapest rental unit, in a very low income area and I always get a very rough

tenant there.

Please advice.

Should I go with Linoleum sheet flooring vs. ceramic tiles?

--50.204.xxx.xxx




Ceramic vs linoleum (by NE [PA]) Posted on: May 22, 2017 4:39 AM
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I used to put tile in everywhere until I had to take it out once.

Now it's sheet vinyl. If the tenant tears it, I just replace it.

Removing tile is horrible. --50.32.xxx.xxx




Ceramic vs linoleum (by Steve [TN]) Posted on: May 22, 2017 5:13 AM
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Just FYI, Linoleum is NOT sheet vinyl. It is a different product. It is very durable, but it is quite expensive. --68.156.xx.xx




Ceramic vs linoleum (by Mickie [OH]) Posted on: May 22, 2017 5:25 AM
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What does it have on it now? If what you have underneath it is old wood floors have you considered just painting the floors? --174.232.xxx.xx




Ceramic vs linoleum (by Dan [IL]) Posted on: May 22, 2017 5:29 AM
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When I started out, I followed another landlord's advice and installed linoleum flooring in the kitchens. Boy, that was the worst advice I had ever received! That surface had frequent holes and tears, which simply weren't repairable; you absolutely must replace the entire floor. Afterward, I tried vinyl composite floor tile. Unfortunately, that tile kept getting loose and warped in the area under the stove, due to heat from the frequent oven and broiler use being done. I then switched to Allure. It has been there for almost 10 years, and still looks as good as new! --66.87.xx.xx




Ceramic vs linoleum (by Dve [MO]) Posted on: May 22, 2017 5:33 AM
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" Cheapest rental unit, very low income."

Linoleum for sure. --174.126.xx.xxx




Ceramic vs linoleum (by Pattyk [MO]) Posted on: May 22, 2017 5:34 AM
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What Steve said....ditto.

For a low end rental where rent is cheap you could go either way. If you give them something nice to start with those that want to and can will keep it nice and clean. Very small kitchen take s beating in a large home but small units... Not so much is going in in there. Cheap vinyl replaced between tenants can look new and clean and rent faster. Just pick one and record feedback and history. For me vinyl. Cheap. Fast. Clean. But then again i can cut and install it... And it's not heavy like tile to transport. --66.87.xx.xx




Ceramic vs linoleum (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: May 22, 2017 5:40 AM
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No ceramic tile. depends what room. other thanthe kitchen and bath, I usually get a piece of carpet remnant cut to fit and staple it down around the perimeter. when they don't care about the edges. when they move, Irip it out and put another piece down. In some places, I have put vinyl press down 12 x 12 squares around the perimeter (usually need extra stick'um added) two or three courses in and then a cheap carpet remnant in the middle.

for kitchen and bath, either stick downs or a cheap remnant.

I looked at a neighbor's low end property a few years ago and he had stick down tiles on the entire first floor. I can't remember but it was probably 5 different styles ... none that matched. He must have just stuck a new tile here and there as needed from whatever he had on a pile. --72.95.xx.xx




Ceramic vs linoleum (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: May 22, 2017 6:25 AM
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I am not a fan of ceramic. As NE said taking it out is terrible and it can crack if the subfloor is not solid or something heavy drops on it. I hate grout, trying to keep it clean and look good. True linoleum is too expensive and unless it is the click and lock, a lot harder to work with.

Of the two, sheet vinyl. Some of the new ones have great stone or tile patterns and come in flexible enough sheets they are easy to cut yourself and put down. I try to use either no glue or perimeter glue since then it is easy to remove between tenants if it needs it. You can even patch them if needed.

My favorite these days is stick on tiles. They come in bigger tiles - 18 x 18 or 12x12, all sort of nice looks. They are pretty hefty, easy to install since you are only cutting one tile at a time to fit around things. Get the straight edge ones, not the ones you can grout because again you are dealing with grout or a nice place for dirt to get into if you don't grout. Do a running bond where each seam is offset on the next row, so their are not 4 corners meeting. Buy extras to use if one needs replacement. --108.44.xx.xx




Ceramic vs linoleum (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: May 22, 2017 7:02 AM
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Cheap rental?

1. Vinyl 12x12 peel and stick. Get on sale for about 50 cents each. Get several extras in a pattern that blends together..

2. Particle board or plywood. Install and just paint it or deal with polyurethane. Done. --23.121.xx.xxx




Ceramic vs linoleum (by Chris [VA]) Posted on: May 22, 2017 7:21 AM
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Ceramic will crack but porcelain tile is superior to ceramic and won't crack. However, you still have to deal with grout, and weight, and the difficulty of removing tile (if you ever do remove it).

We are going to try true commercial linoleum (not vinyl) in a small bathroom in our own house. It may be more expensive, but it's supposed to last for decades. If that's true, it could potentially save money by making turnovers faster in rentals. (It is also non-toxic if you care about outgassing from vinyl products.)

Real old-school linoleum is sold under a few different names including Marmoleum and Marmorette. Our local library installed Marmoleum a few years ago when it was built and it is still looking fantastic. --71.246.xxx.xxx




Ceramic vs linoleum (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: May 22, 2017 8:19 AM
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You said rough tenants. Don't do sheet vinyl because you may have to replace it after then leave and you then have to pull everything up again. Ceramic is too fragile also. They can drop a pot or an iron frying pan on that and it's gone. What I did in my four units was to strip up what's there, put down plywood if necessary and luan and then use self stick tile or thicker tile and glue it down. That way if they ruin a couple of them you can just chisel a few out and be back renting faster. Make sure you save a box or two of the tiles since styles seem to change faster now. Don't use ugly tile. Use something nice. --73.33.xxx.xxx




Ceramic vs linoleum (by Lynda [TX]) Posted on: May 22, 2017 8:20 AM
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Well as usual, I am the contrarian. I love ceramic tile! I've used it in all my rentals and it wears like IRON! Does it crack? Very seldom, and very small (like corners) but so what? You don't take it up! You just live with the little crack. A finger-full of clear silicone (like for the tub surround) fills it and keeps dirt and crumbs out, and can hardly be seen. As to grout, I use a slightly darker grout than the tile, and once it's sealed you don't have to do any special cleaning of it other than the mop you clean the whole floor with.

My first tile job for a rental, a kit/din area w/cheap tile from HD, was 17 years ago! And it is still doing just fine. Since then every kit, bath, din area, and even inside laundry areas have been done in ceramic tile and are still working fine.

What's more, after a while, when I saw all the dif tile "looks" (looks like slate, or saltillo, etc) I was able to get fancy for almost NO extra money. I had one bath black and white checkered w/gray walls--sharp--but neutral enough for the tenant to add their own color. One long hallway I put a string of 6" spec tiles down the middle. One LR I did a row of decorative tile around the room a foot from the wall, looked magnificent. Applicants always comment on these floors when I show the properties, because they see something a cut above the bottom-of-the-line flooring they usually see.

Now I have no carpet or wood anywhere because I have tenants with multiple pets. And mostly they put down their own area rugs if they want, but they don't want to cover the decorative floors.

I pretty much feel that once the floors are done in tile--its forever, never have to redo, and they even help the sale of the property--and I've already sold 2 of those tiled babies with positive results. --108.87.xx.xxx




Ceramic vs linoleum (by Robert,Ontario,Can [ON]) Posted on: May 22, 2017 9:38 AM
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If the base is wood or OSB then it is recommended to install a Schluter ditra membrane first so if ceramic or porcelain is installed no cracking will occur. The downside of installing ceramic or porcelain tile is more costly upfront along with being labour intensive. Porcelain is stronger while more expensive then ceramic. The upside the porcelain will outlast other types of flooring many times over along being easy to clean and not effected by cigarettes. A quick mopping then ready to rent. Some rental housing rather buy cheap flooring then replace when move out where others want flooring that is going to last. Low income usually smoke along with not taking care of flooring. Commercial grade lasts. Watch some videos on You Tube a ditra membrane and installing tile. One will need to rent or buy a good wet saw. --74.220.xxx.xxx




Ceramic vs linoleum (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: May 22, 2017 10:47 AM
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With dozens of low income tenants I know that they will drop things on tile floors cracking them. And even with the best vinyl that is designed not to rip, tenants will manage to put holes in it.

So I do the easiest. I have good grade vinyl installed and save the left over's from the installation for future repairs.

--47.156.xx.xxx




Ceramic vs linoleum (by Robert,Ontario,Can [ON]) Posted on: May 22, 2017 9:18 PM
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If a large porcelain is cut into four pieces the porcelain tile is less likely to crack then have some spare porcelain tiles to replace. Ceramic tiles are not as strong as porcelain. Have had very good results with porcelain tiles where bought the thicker better quality tiles which stand up to a lot of abuse. Another option is to commercial grade vinyl tiles then keep some spare tiles. Porcelain can be used outside as well inside as not effected by freezing. A more durable tile but more expensive is slate. It is always difficult to balance renovations and cost. If willing to install then the labour cost is factored out. Found it not that difficult to install ceramic or porcelain tiles. Many stores carry the one up tiles where once sold out there are no longer tiles available which people buy when they flip houses. For a bathroom often was able to buy a small amount of ceramic tiles at the Habitat for Humanity restores. Lowes generally carries better quality tiles the HD. --74.220.xxx.xxx





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