Seller lease signing
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Seller lease signing (by Trent [TX]) May 21, 2017 7:57 AM
       Seller lease signing (by NE [PA]) May 21, 2017 8:03 AM
       Seller lease signing (by LisaFL [FL]) May 21, 2017 8:07 AM
       Seller lease signing (by Ken [NY]) May 21, 2017 8:29 AM
       Seller lease signing (by Moshe [CA]) May 21, 2017 10:25 AM
       Seller lease signing (by Nicole [PA]) May 21, 2017 1:26 PM
       Seller lease signing (by Barb [MO]) May 21, 2017 2:29 PM
       Seller lease signing (by Vee [OH]) May 21, 2017 4:45 PM
       Seller lease signing (by Moshe [CA]) May 22, 2017 9:52 AM


Seller lease signing (by Trent [TX]) Posted on: May 21, 2017 7:57 AM
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Hello,

I am currently under contract to buy a duplex. One side has a tenant on a month to month lease, the other side was empty when the contract was signed. I just received word that the seller signed a year long lease on the empty side, after signing the contract. Are they allowed to do that, or do I have the ability to review and accept or refuse the lease? --107.77.xx.xx




Seller lease signing (by NE [PA]) Posted on: May 21, 2017 8:03 AM
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I'd say unless they were told in the contract that they couldn't, then they could. It kind of sucks, but should be ok. They still have to manage the property as if you will fail to close.

At a minimum, I would use this to get a price reduction somehow. --50.32.xxx.xxx




Seller lease signing (by LisaFL [FL]) Posted on: May 21, 2017 8:07 AM
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I would say it's almost certain you can review and reject or modify your contract.

That is a major change in how you will be able to operate and/or manage the property. It's like buying it with a central AC unit only to find they went and removed it after the contract was signed.

I would stand my ground. How do they know you weren't intending to occupy that unit or had your own tenant lined up? Now you're stuck without use of it for a year. They sound pretty stupid. --173.170.xxx.xxx




Seller lease signing (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: May 21, 2017 8:29 AM
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I believe they can but you should review the lease and if the rent isn't as much as you would have received you may have a case to receive money from them at time of closing to make up for it,especially if you determine it was a friend or family member --24.25.xxx.xxx




Seller lease signing (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: May 21, 2017 10:25 AM
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The lease signed by the seller endures until its expiration, beyond the sale. Sorry. The lease is an encumbrance on the property and you have to accept it or else default on your contract to buy.

Its your own fault. You should have ascertained if there are any encumbrances on the title before offering to buy (or made your offer contingent on unknown encumbrances). Did you have any professional (attorney, licensed RE agent, buyers agent) to work with you on the purchase? They should have known better, and to have had a title search performed and including provision of estopple certificates to indemnify you from any further claims.

--47.139.xx.xxx




Seller lease signing (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: May 21, 2017 1:26 PM
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In Pennsylvania, a title search won't show a lease ... not sure how it would in California either.

I'd guess this is covered somewhere in the Agreement of Sale. --72.95.xx.xx




Seller lease signing (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: May 21, 2017 2:29 PM
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Is it rented at market value?

Were you planning to move in, and if yes, were they aware of it?

If not rented at market value, I would negotiate on the price of the duplex. If you planned to move in, and they knew it, was that in the contract? --66.87.xx.xxx




Seller lease signing (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: May 21, 2017 4:45 PM
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Br sure to get the complete esstoel forms, this shows who owns what, parks and stores what where, and how much deposit comes to you with the sale,each tenant and principal must sign this. --76.188.xxx.xx




Seller lease signing (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: May 22, 2017 9:52 AM
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Regardless of whether the lease was recorded or not, it is still an encumbrance on the property. The owner of the property is obligated under the terms of the lease, regardless of whether a title search informed him of the encumbrance or not, before or after the purchase.

A title search will only show encumbrances that were recorded against the title, and thus are to be considered as common public knowledge, and thus are considered purchasers responsibility to know about. While a lease MAY be recorded against the title, it is still binding (a lease for real property runs with the title) on the owner whoever he is.

Therefore, it is necessary for a potential purchaser to secure his own knowledge of what he is buying before the sale has closed, in fact, even before he makes an offer. A title search should reveal encumbrances which are publicly recorded, and thus are subject to the purchaser's own due diligence. The buyer needs also to obtain assurance from the seller that there are no further encumbrances, and that is where the estopple certificates come in. A landlord who purchases a property with a provable life estate promise (even a verbal promise with witnesses) could turn out to be very disappointed. Professional assistance can be worth the cost.

--47.139.xx.xxx





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