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More Squatters (by LivetheDream [AZ]) Apr 15, 2017 9:48 PM
       More Squatters (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Apr 15, 2017 10:11 PM
       More Squatters (by Dan [IL]) Apr 15, 2017 11:57 PM
       More Squatters (by LivetheDream [AZ]) Apr 16, 2017 12:28 AM
       More Squatters (by katherine [NC]) Apr 16, 2017 2:11 AM
       More Squatters (by Barbara [VA]) Apr 16, 2017 4:11 AM
       More Squatters (by Lee [IN]) Apr 16, 2017 4:16 AM
       More Squatters (by Ken [NY]) Apr 16, 2017 5:28 AM
       More Squatters (by cjl [NY]) Apr 16, 2017 5:50 AM
       More Squatters (by AllyM [NJ]) Apr 16, 2017 8:07 AM
       More Squatters (by Amy [MO]) Apr 16, 2017 9:50 AM
       More Squatters (by Barb [MO]) Apr 16, 2017 10:02 AM
       More Squatters (by Robin [WI]) Apr 16, 2017 10:52 AM
       More Squatters (by Bohemia [IL]) Apr 16, 2017 1:13 PM
       More Squatters (by LivetheDream [AZ]) Apr 16, 2017 1:37 PM
       More Squatters (by Wilma [PA]) Apr 16, 2017 1:52 PM
       More Squatters (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Apr 16, 2017 4:25 PM
       More Squatters (by Pam [KY]) Apr 16, 2017 4:25 PM
       More Squatters (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Apr 16, 2017 4:32 PM
       More Squatters (by Steve [MA]) Apr 16, 2017 4:48 PM
       More Squatters (by Janet [KY]) Apr 16, 2017 6:48 PM
       More Squatters (by LivetheDream [AZ]) Apr 16, 2017 8:04 PM
       More Squatters (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Apr 16, 2017 11:17 PM
       More Squatters (by LiveTheDream [AZ]) Apr 16, 2017 11:44 PM
       More Squatters (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Apr 17, 2017 1:18 AM
       More Squatters (by Dave [MO]) Apr 17, 2017 5:06 AM
       More Squatters (by Vee [OH]) Apr 17, 2017 5:49 AM
       More Squatters (by LivetheDream [AZ]) Apr 17, 2017 11:24 AM
       More Squatters (by razorback_tim [AR]) Apr 17, 2017 12:25 PM
       More Squatters (by Barb [MO]) Apr 17, 2017 2:32 PM
       More Squatters (by cjo'h [CT]) Apr 17, 2017 3:09 PM
       More Squatters (by cjo'h [CT]) Apr 17, 2017 3:27 PM
       More Squatters (by Brian [CA]) Apr 17, 2017 5:57 PM
       More Squatters (by Brian [CA]) Apr 17, 2017 6:01 PM
       More Squatters (by LiveTheDream [AZ]) Apr 17, 2017 10:25 PM
       More Squatters (by Chris [CA]) Apr 18, 2017 12:31 AM
       More Squatters (by Amy [MO]) Apr 18, 2017 6:05 AM
       More Squatters (by Mickie [OH]) Apr 18, 2017 9:19 AM
       More Squatters (by LivetheDream [AZ]) Apr 18, 2017 12:33 PM
       More Squatters (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Apr 18, 2017 12:54 PM
       More Squatters (by paul [UT]) Apr 19, 2017 11:22 PM
       More Squatters (by LivetheDream [AZ]) Apr 20, 2017 12:39 AM
       More Squatters (by cjo'h [CT]) Apr 20, 2017 12:40 PM


More Squatters (by LivetheDream [AZ]) Posted on: Apr 15, 2017 9:48 PM
Message:

I have a squatter problem myself. Maybe someone has a suggestion. I'm at my wits end and thinking of just giving up and selling out.

We've evicted them several times but they find a vacant unit and move right back in as soon as I let my guard down. They live like pigs. I've had to clean up after them three times now and I seem powerless to stop them. And their friends and kids are worse.

My attorney is worthless. He won't even serve them. The police say there's nothing they can do, that it's a civil issue. I've tried talking, offered incentives to move out. But they just won't listen.

I've threatened to shoot them. Here in Arizona it is legal to "threaten" to shoot a trespasser, but you can't actually do it. So there's no meat in the law. You can physically remove trespassers but I'm too old for a fight like of this magnitude.

They are harassing my other tenants now and I'm afraid my good tenants are going to move out, if I can't evict them permanently. This is ruining my life.

Can anybody help me?

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God, I hate pigeons!

- --47.216.xx.xxx




More Squatters (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Apr 15, 2017 10:11 PM
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SimpliSafe alarm with monitoring? We move a system from flip to flip.

Better locks?

Move your stinky cousin in with them?

Seriously, get tight with the police chief. Contributions make a difference.

I got our judge and police chief to talk to each other for their mutual benefit AND for the safety of the community. The police were cluttering up small claims by sending CRIMINAL TRESPASS cases to small claims (civil) and the police wanted a firm policy to enforce. Keep people safe, keep homeless safe from trigger happy vigilantes.

THEY decided (with a little prompting!) the lease became the dividing line between civil vs criminal. If there was a complaint, even from a woman trying to kick out her boyfriend, persons not on the lease can be asked to leave or escorted out. No lease = Criminal trespass, not a civil issue.

Get some folks riled up about homeless squatting in their neighborhoods.

BRAD --73.146.xxx.xxx




More Squatters (by Dan [IL]) Posted on: Apr 15, 2017 11:57 PM
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Brad, I agree with you with getting neighbors and local community organizations involved. Normally, this would be a situation the local media would love to write a story on, but in today's environment I'm afraid they would more likely side with those poor homeless squatters. The community would take a stand based upon health and safety issues. --66.87.xx.xxx




More Squatters (by LivetheDream [AZ]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2017 12:28 AM
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BRAD. I am tight with the police chief we train together. I'm pretty sure though that he'd arrest me if I shot those vile squatters.

Now, if I could just lure them out of city limits it would be open season and I could utilize the "Shovel and a Desert" solution. Or maybe the BBQ. --47.216.xx.xxx




More Squatters (by katherine [NC]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2017 2:11 AM
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Hahahahahaha!

--69.34.xxx.xxx




More Squatters (by Barbara [VA]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2017 4:11 AM
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ROFLMAO

You had me scratching my head for a few minutes. Don't know you personally, but you don't come across as someone who would have issues dealing with squatters. Thanks for the chuckle. --68.107.xxx.x




More Squatters (by Lee [IN]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2017 4:16 AM
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Father in law has shot those squatters for years in his barn. Had to put new roof on because of the holes of the misses after years of this behavior

Fake owl --209.239.xxx.xxx




More Squatters (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2017 5:28 AM
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run 2 lengths of barbed wire side by side so they can land on them,electrify one of them,once they touch both of them it kills them.Never tried it but was told it works --24.25.xxx.xxx




More Squatters (by cjl [NY]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2017 5:50 AM
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HA HA. You didn't mention burying them in the desert so I wondered what was going on!

"Rats with wings" --69.201.xx.xxx




More Squatters (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2017 8:07 AM
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How are they gaining entry? You really do need a loud alarm on vacant units so that it goes off when they break in. That will bring the police and surely the fact that there is an alarm on there shows that they are not allowed there and have no right there. Put some furniture and stuff in there so it looks like it's someone else's home. Someone is letting them know that there is a vacancy. Put the name of someone else on the mailbox so you can show the police. Figure it out. How are they finding out that it's empty. --73.33.xxx.xxx




More Squatters (by Amy [MO]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2017 9:50 AM
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Can you find a vicious dog and rehome it in the unit?

"Idk how that dog got in there!?".

Maybe a wild animal? Raccoon?

Maybe something really stinky or mace sprayed in the unit?

Maybe continual loud screeching at odd hours?

Can you remove all the doors?

--136.32.xxx.xxx




More Squatters (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2017 10:02 AM
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These people actually have broken in to three different vacant units? Then set up housekeeping?

I don't understand. It is called breaking and entry with criminal tresspass.

Do they break the door frames when they enter?

Ask the police chief why they are allowed by his officers to break and enter into an empty u it? How is that different from breaking into an occupied home? They still broke in!!!

Did they move in overnight and set up shop?

Can you call DFS about the children? Maybe they will move out when DFS comes over?

Since they are tresspaasing, what happens if you hire a crew of burly guys to remove their stuff? --66.87.xx.xxx




More Squatters (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2017 10:52 AM
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I thought the punch line you were going to use was, "I guess that's what happens when your kids grow up but aren't quite ready to live on their own." --204.210.xxx.xxx




More Squatters (by Bohemia [IL]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2017 1:13 PM
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I thought in Arizona you could evict a squatter in 24 hours. --70.195.xx.xxx




More Squatters (by LivetheDream [AZ]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2017 1:37 PM
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ROFL - I appreciate all the carefully considered suggestions, and I see a few people did read the entire rant. ;)

Barb, I did ask the Chief if I could have the stake out team waylay them when they are sleeping but he said it was an improper allocation of resources. And yeah, they just showed up again a couple weeks ago without warning. I think they go back to Mexico in the winter because they don't speak the english.

I didn't think about calling child services, but the government just doesn't seem responsive to my problems. And I don't know about breaking up families, the parents seem to take good care of the kids and give them the best nest they can. But they are a protected minority and HUD says we can't discriminate.

Amy, the vicious dog is a good idea, there is no pit bull shortage here. Although they seem to be allergic to cats.

I think hiring a crew of burly guys to intimidate them might be my best bet. But the professionals all want an arm and a leg to run them off. However what I really need is a hitman to take them out permanently. They will need a mask and gloves. Does anybody know where to hire one? I will pay well!

--47.216.xx.xxx




More Squatters (by Wilma [PA]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2017 1:52 PM
Message:

Bwahahahaha! That was priceless!

As a boy, my dad used to go into barns at night and snatch sleeping pigeons from the rafters. This was the Depression era. His mother made lots of pigeon pies to stretch their meager income. --71.175.xxx.xx




More Squatters (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2017 4:25 PM
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I our state a defiant trespasser is criminal but they need to be specifically be told to be gone and not have any rights to be there. I sounds like they might actually have additional squatter rights than Pa --24.239.xx.xxx




More Squatters (by Pam [KY]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2017 4:25 PM
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Robin, I had the same thought!

I know you're kidding, but now that you brought it up, when does trespassing become squatting? If a total stranger breaks into my rental uninvited, for ANY reason, they are trespassing, in my book. Why won't the police arrest these people? I don't get it. If they break in to steal or vandalize, it's trespassing, but if they break in to sleep there and use the shower, all of a sudden they have the same rights as regular tenants, only they don't have to pay rent? And I have to pay an attorney to have them booted? Who made up that stupid rule?

--24.95.xxx.xxx




More Squatters (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2017 4:32 PM
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LTD,

Yeah, I figured you were on a first name basis with the chief.

Seems to be one of those problems that is sooo big no one can solve it. It's not directly hurting society, (only the owner!) squatters probably keep a low profile, so they concentrate on other issues.

I'm also guessing the property taxes are not being paid so local govt funds are thin.

I hate the concept of LL registrations but if the police had a real phone number to the owners who care, they could call to verify when someone shows them a lease.

My only real answer: we push to get the vacants rented to avoid overnight homeless using our homes.

BRAD

--73.146.xxx.xxx




More Squatters (by Steve [MA]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2017 4:48 PM
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LTD, I don't think most people actually read your entire post or else they have very poor comprehensions skills.(g)

I think this might just be a job for either Super Cat or a train hunting falcon. --72.93.xxx.x




More Squatters (by Janet [KY]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2017 6:48 PM
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You need to hire some of those burley thugs, or just

some punk young teens to go over and hang out, make they

uncomfortable. Take some garter snakes over and get them

into the unit some how. They are harmless but will scare the geeheebees out of you.

Wait for them to go out somewhere and get in there and

change the locks. --74.236.xxx.xxx




More Squatters (by LivetheDream [AZ]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2017 8:04 PM
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Steve I believe you are right. ;)

The hunting Falcon might actually work. --47.216.xx.xxx




More Squatters (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2017 11:17 PM
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Haha!

Went back to the original post. The punch line is "below" the screen, does not show unless I scroll.

I don't scroll. I hit CONTROL END to jump to the REPLY screen.

And the previous post with the article! A red herring!

Got me!

BRAD --73.146.xxx.xxx




More Squatters (by LiveTheDream [AZ]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2017 11:44 PM
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ROFL! Brad, I was beginning to think you were pulling my leg back. LOL I admit the other serious post gave me the idea. :)

OK, I guess I have to come clean now. We have a two story building with a tile roof and they are getting up under the ridge tiles and a couple places under the eves.

The last straw is now they are trying to roost in the stairway to the upstairs units and pooping on the railing and stairs. Right in front of my vacant unit!

We chase them off and they go next door. Then come back when nobody is around.

I had a fake owl, we named him "Hoot." Just one more place for them to sit. And poop.

We've been turning the roof into a pin cushion with bird spikes. I guess we are going to have to put up ugly netting and foil flutter strips.

And all this has to be done off a 30 foot ladder on tile that is slick as glass. Scary.

BTW - DIY bird spikes. Take the free paint sticks from Home Depot - drill holes in them and stick 16p nails through. The commercial ones are crazy expensive. --47.216.xx.xxx




More Squatters (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Apr 17, 2017 1:18 AM
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HA! Get the police chief to do this! Ya know "Serve and Protect".

BRAD --73.146.xxx.xxx




More Squatters (by Dave [MO]) Posted on: Apr 17, 2017 5:06 AM
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Living the dream, try a product called Hot foot, it comes in a tube and use a caulking gun, this product works well because the birds hate to walk in on this sticky product, and take roost some were else. Or you could use a Jeff Cooper package. Haha --206.51.xxx.xx




More Squatters (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Apr 17, 2017 5:49 AM
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I read into this one but did not want to spoil the fun for LTD, however as my big city is trying hard to process the unconstitutional tenant registration I now have a family name to share with the form clerk that would not infringe on my tenant's 4th amendment rights, now to get those information access fee forms ready for the city. --76.188.xxx.xx




More Squatters (by LivetheDream [AZ]) Posted on: Apr 17, 2017 11:24 AM
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LOL - Thanks Dave that hot foot might help. The Cooper option was my first choice but we have one of those pesky ordinances. Col. Cooper taught me to shoot 1911's back in the 80's. :) --47.216.xx.xxx




More Squatters (by razorback_tim [AR]) Posted on: Apr 17, 2017 12:25 PM
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The only two things I've heard of that have been effective

1. A speaker that plays birds of prey calls periodically.

2. I heard of a grain facility that actually managed to nest a peregrine falcon on-site.

# 2 is more effective than # 1 but much more difficult to implement. --107.77.xxx.xx




More Squatters (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Apr 17, 2017 2:32 PM
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My goodness!

I read the original post on my phone. I completely missed that these were birds!

Love the falcon idea, but probably not practical.

Plus you've got to get them out before you seal it up.

Is there any kind of trap you can use?

I've been trapping squirrls, cats, etc. --131.151.xxx.xxx




More Squatters (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Apr 17, 2017 3:09 PM
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LT D, Good Post, especially for Easter Season.They are easy to trap.Not much there,but they are tasty on the Grill.we used to trap them and sell them for Half a crown,about two shillings and sixpence.Not alot of money, but back then it was.The restaurants considered them a delacy. Partridge under Glass? Or maybe Pheasant under Glass.You know the bolony. To trap,use a sand riddle,the one to take the little stones out of sand,when making mortar mix.Set up riddle on edge,prop up one edge with a little stick, some bird feed under.How you remove the stick at the proper time, use your ingenuity.Maybe catch two or more at a time...............Charlie........................................... --174.199.xx.xx




More Squatters (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Apr 17, 2017 3:27 PM
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LTD, if it was the other kind, just a short call to ICE would be on the agenda. When I worked on helping to build the local power generating Station,met a lot of people who would have gotten rid of anyone you needed to. Lost all their numbers.Never needed their services.But they were there.Didn't even need a shovel. Just a few dollars, Even Euros we're OK. Or ús..........cjo'h........................................ ......... --174.199.xx.xx




More Squatters (by Brian [CA]) Posted on: Apr 17, 2017 5:57 PM
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Lets say that you went over there and asked them nicely to leave and they threatened you with physical violence. Can you get a restraining order against them that they stay xxxx feet away from the property (might have to wait until after the next eviction)? --107.207.xxx.xxx




More Squatters (by Brian [CA]) Posted on: Apr 17, 2017 6:01 PM
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Pigeons, rats, or (Human) squaters. they are all the same. --107.207.xxx.xxx




More Squatters (by LiveTheDream [AZ]) Posted on: Apr 17, 2017 10:25 PM
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Brian - I've tried the restraining order. They simply refuse to follow and the police say they are out of their jurisdiction, that I should call the Air Force. ;)

--47.216.xx.xxx




More Squatters (by Chris [CA]) Posted on: Apr 18, 2017 12:31 AM
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I hear you. - Tried filing for a TRO?

A normal successful eviction bans them from coming near your property (a multi?). What's up with that?

Code Enforcement turned out to be a friend, not foe when unknown burglars moved in and stayed. Satisfying the cops with a homemade "receipt" for $ 350 on a piece of paper.

"It's a civil matter" (...)

Contact LLs in your town. We have helped each other over the years. You will repay the favor asap.

Change lawyers.

Try filing a TRO. And Google whether a past eviction comes with a "stay away clause" attached.

I had an evictee show up for future lock out as if he was an attorney. Putting up some sign might also help. --46.5.xx.xx




More Squatters (by Amy [MO]) Posted on: Apr 18, 2017 6:05 AM
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Serving the TRO might be tricky.

Do you call them Jane and John Dove #317? --136.32.xxx.xxx




More Squatters (by Mickie [OH]) Posted on: Apr 18, 2017 9:19 AM
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They sound like the kind that would like free meals with the free lodging. Perhaps some dried rice. --174.233.x.xxx




More Squatters (by LivetheDream [AZ]) Posted on: Apr 18, 2017 12:33 PM
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Well I think at this point we all understand the importance of reading an ENTIRE document whether a post or contract. :) --47.216.xx.xxx




More Squatters (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Apr 18, 2017 12:54 PM
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The problem is the format on a cell phone screen vs having a lap top.

But I will be the first one to admit it, LTD got me (and others too). --24.239.xx.xxx




More Squatters (by paul [UT]) Posted on: Apr 19, 2017 11:22 PM
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a delicious pigeon pie, roasted pigeon, fried pigeon, rosemary pigeon, pigeon scampi, teriyaki pigeon, bbq pigeon, pigeon soup, pigeon parmesan, grilled pigeon, pigeon enchiladas, smothered pigeon burrito.

I feel a whole new business venture with franchises all across America.

--50.186.xx.x




More Squatters (by LivetheDream [AZ]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2017 12:39 AM
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LOL. ^^^ --47.216.xx.xxx




More Squatters (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2017 12:40 PM
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Don't let McDonalds know about them,Or we know what the menu will be in AZ.

........................Charlie...................................... --174.199.xx.xx





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