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Epileptic Tenant (by GKARL [PA]) Apr 13, 2017 10:09 AM
       Epileptic Tenant (by NE [PA]) Apr 13, 2017 10:25 AM
       Epileptic Tenant (by Pacman [IL]) Apr 13, 2017 10:50 AM
       Epileptic Tenant (by razorback_tim [AR]) Apr 13, 2017 10:55 AM
       Epileptic Tenant (by Ken [NY]) Apr 13, 2017 11:01 AM
       Epileptic Tenant (by plenty [MO]) Apr 13, 2017 11:11 AM
       Epileptic Tenant (by plenty [MO]) Apr 13, 2017 11:13 AM
       Epileptic Tenant (by plenty [MO]) Apr 13, 2017 11:14 AM
       Epileptic Tenant (by plenty [MO]) Apr 13, 2017 11:14 AM
       Epileptic Tenant (by Vee [OH]) Apr 13, 2017 12:06 PM
       Epileptic Tenant (by GKARL [PA]) Apr 13, 2017 2:15 PM
       Epileptic Tenant (by Nicole [PA]) Apr 13, 2017 2:29 PM
       Epileptic Tenant (by Andrew, Canada [ON]) Apr 13, 2017 4:14 PM
       Epileptic Tenant (by RathdrumGal [ID]) Apr 13, 2017 4:36 PM
       Epileptic Tenant (by Paulio [PA]) Apr 14, 2017 5:09 AM
       Epileptic Tenant (by GKARL [PA]) Apr 14, 2017 6:46 AM
       Epileptic Tenant (by Barb [MO]) Apr 14, 2017 10:46 AM
       Epileptic Tenant (by Barb [MO]) Apr 14, 2017 10:49 AM
       Epileptic Tenant (by busy, busy, busy [WI]) Apr 16, 2017 4:48 PM
       Epileptic Tenant (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Apr 16, 2017 11:41 PM

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Epileptic Tenant (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2017 10:09 AM
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This is a tenant for my rooming house. She was a former caregiver at a hospital who has been having epileptic seizures for the past couple of years and can't work as a result. She dropped by a couple of weeks ago to inquire and explain her situation. She's applied for SSI disability and has gotten it. I plan on meeting her on Friday to show the what I have available and collect an application for a background check.

I have no experience with epileptics. She says she knows when a seizure is coming on and it generally lasts about 45 minutes and then she's fine. I know I can't discriminate nor do I wish to. I think she'll be a decent long term tenant. The larger concern would be her income. The rent on her room will be $ 550 to $ 600 while her SSI is about $ 1100. Half her income will be taken up by the rent, so any bumps in the road mean she wouldn't be able to catch up. But on the other hand, she likely has no other bills.

Thoughts? --64.121.xxx.xxx




Epileptic Tenant (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2017 10:25 AM
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Remove epilepsy from the equation and screen as normal. --174.201.xx.xxx




Epileptic Tenant (by Pacman [IL]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2017 10:50 AM
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I have rooms for people to rent around your price range as well. $1100/mo income is not enough. One trip to a doctor office and medication would make her to miss your rent. I wouldn't take anyone who make less than $2500/mo for my $550/mo rooms. There are tons of people who make more than $2500/mo.

Is it really difficult in your area to find a tenant that you consider her? It's getting warmer. If I were you, I would wait for a better prospect. --73.22.xxx.xxx




Epileptic Tenant (by razorback_tim [AR]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2017 10:55 AM
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I second what NE says. Would you rent to someone with $1100 income period. For example, a retired person with only $1100 social security income. I have an older couple who pays half of their social security income as rent and they are excellent tenants. The numbers are similar to yours. They've been with me just under 8 years. They're the only tenants I've had in the house so they've made over half the payments on the 15-year note on the house. --166.137.xxx.xx




Epileptic Tenant (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2017 11:01 AM
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When I had rooming houses I would take that situation all day long.I don't care about the elipesy,that is her problem to deal with,my problem is rent.She will get her check and get you a money order right away.She won't have a power bill or heat bill,she probably doesn't have a car so no insurance or gas.She is covered by insurance probably by the government,she only needs to get food.They all know where the food pantries are and where the churches are that give away free clothing.This is a totally different way of life than most on this board understand or deal with.As long as she won't create drama she should be just fine.She just needs to understand you are zero tolerance on the rent. --24.25.xxx.xxx




Epileptic Tenant (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2017 11:11 AM
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Utilities are included. So for me the 3x rent doesn't apply. --66.87.xx.xxx




Epileptic Tenant (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2017 11:13 AM
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Her expenses are not like other people as she qualifies for more free food and medical. Watch for credit card or car expenses. Pull credit report. Train her to pay you first. I think she's a perfect fit. Other tenants will care for her or learn to help her. They will become a family of sorts --66.87.xx.xxx




Epileptic Tenant (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2017 11:14 AM
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Her expenses are not like other people as she qualifies for more free food and medical. Watch for credit card or car expenses. Pull credit report. Train her to pay you first. I think she's a perfect fit. Other tenants will care for her or learn to help her. They will become a family of sorts --66.87.xx.xxx




Epileptic Tenant (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2017 11:14 AM
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Her expenses are not like other people as she qualifies for more free food and medical. Watch for credit card or car expenses. Pull credit report. Train her to pay you first. I think she's a perfect fit. Other tenants will care for her or learn to help her. They will become a family of sorts --66.87.xx.xxx




Epileptic Tenant (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2017 12:06 PM
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Look for this person to have a emotional support animal, surprisingly this one will actually be trained to help this person and they may be together for the life of the dog. --76.188.xxx.xx




Epileptic Tenant (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2017 2:15 PM
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If her background checks out, I think I'll rent to her. I think she'll be fine as a tenant and probably long term.

Mo, I think you're right about the other tenants. As it stands now, there will be three women in the building. The other two are half of a couple and I'm sure they'll help her. Actually, as I think about it, being in a rooming house is probably a better situation for her. --64.121.xxx.xxx




Epileptic Tenant (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2017 2:29 PM
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I echo Ken 100%. This type individual leads a life style that many/most of middle America cannot begin to even imagine.

In my units where I paid utilities (finally got rid of my last one not too long ago), she was my idea tenant. --72.95.xx.xx




Epileptic Tenant (by Andrew, Canada [ON]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2017 4:14 PM
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Your prospective tenant has an income that is equal to 2 times the monthly rent. By Ontario standards that is actually quite good. Here we are Only allowed to require that the tenant has enough money to pay the rent....No other , monthly expenses such as food, transportation, medicine, entertainment, clothing ect can be considered.

If the rent is $1000 per month and the income is $1000 per month, as far as the ontario human rights commission is concerned....that tenant qualifies financially to rent the property.

And if you dont rent to them, you will have to justify why. --70.29.xxx.xxx




Epileptic Tenant (by RathdrumGal [ID]) Posted on: Apr 13, 2017 4:36 PM
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I agree with Plenty. If she is on Medicaid and getting EBT food stamp support, you need to consider that in her income. She may also qualify for Medicaid personal care, which would send a twice weekly chore worker to her apartment to clean. She may also get free transportation to/from her doctor's appointments. She may be the ideal tenant. --98.145.xx.xxx




Epileptic Tenant (by Paulio [PA]) Posted on: Apr 14, 2017 5:09 AM
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I rented to an epileptic woman who sounds similar to yours. Three days after move-in she said she was getting a German Shepard service dog. Three days. --50.32.xxx.xxx




Epileptic Tenant (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Apr 14, 2017 6:46 AM
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Although my place is not a mansion, it's a very large former house that's been broken up. And although the rooms are large, they simply can not accommodate any large service animal. I might be able to deal with a small dog, but that might be tough as well. I need to have a discussion with my attorney as none of the tenants who are taking up residence at this point appear as if they will be short-term residents. The way this is setting up, it's pretty much like landlord tenant and it's my understanding that any stay over 28 days in PA is generally construed as such. Not sure if the service dog issue is the same under rooming house rules versus landlord tenant. But for me, with longer term stays, I may have to operate under landlord tenant. --207.172.xxx.xxx




Epileptic Tenant (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Apr 14, 2017 10:46 AM
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Did the tenant say they had a Service Dog?

The only mention of a SD is from another LL. It really is not a factor here.

Look at the applicant. Make a decision based on the applicant. Not the potential that they may or may not have a Service Dog in the future.

A real service dog is not going to be an issue. Heck, the applicant may have no plans to get one at all! They are expensive. The SD agencies tell applicants up front how expensive it is to maintain a SD. In his first hear, I spent $2000 on basic maintenance of my SD, plus another $2500 on training expenses. Your applicant likely doesn't have that kind of disposable income.

Next a SD is considered a medical implement. It is no different than a CPAP or oxygen tank. Mine is well trained. He does just fine in hotel rooms for days at a time.

Leave the potential for a SD out of it. --64.251.xxx.xxx




Epileptic Tenant (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Apr 14, 2017 10:49 AM
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Your other comment regarding whether a SD would be the same under rooming house rules as a Ll-T relationship, I'm guessing yes.

Mine goes to hotels, my office, the bus, the airplane, you name it. --64.251.xxx.xxx




Epileptic Tenant (by busy, busy, busy [WI]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2017 4:48 PM
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I had a tenant with a seizure disorder. There were other issues with the tenancy (domestic disturbances) but nothing related to the seizure disorder.

But, it did make me pay attention to buzzing/strong flourescents lights, and get those changed out quickly, and I've bought grab bars (I have yet to install) for all of my showers. Both would be good things to do for any person, family, regardless of disability. And, anyone, at any time could develop some sort of disability, so making a home safer for one really made it safer for all.

--70.92.xxx.xxx




Epileptic Tenant (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Apr 16, 2017 11:41 PM
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GKARL,

Her medical condition is a non-LL issue and be VERY careful about discussing it. When she mentions it just listen.

The words you post here could be used against you in court if her atty gets nasty.

Service Dog - I doubt room size is a concern to her. The dog might sleep on the bed, not taking up any floor space.

Do you have a yard for the dog's business? Make certain your lease covers doggie doodle.

40-50% of a low income applicant is often normal as others posted.

MY concern is the SSI. For years our screening includes GARNISHABLE? We did not accept SSI because they have no reserves when they need extra medicine or car repairs, but mostly because we cannot garnish when they fall behind.

She can get a free atty who knows how to delay and delay an eviction, because she has not money to get a new place. Kind of a vicious cycle with the LL taking the brunt.

(Check YOUR Fair housing laws, state and local, for SOURCE OF INCOME discrimination protection)

Now we will accept SSI only with an approved co-signor who has garnishable employment.

BRAD --73.146.xxx.xxx



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