 prospect? (by CJ [MO]) Jan 20, 2017 1:29 PM
 prospect? (by NE [PA]) Jan 20, 2017 1:42 PM
prospect? (by plenty [MO]) Jan 20, 2017 1:48 PM
prospect? (by CJ [MO]) Jan 20, 2017 2:16 PM
prospect? (by NE [PA]) Jan 20, 2017 2:18 PM
prospect? (by cjo'h [CT]) Jan 20, 2017 2:21 PM
prospect? (by Amy [MO]) Jan 20, 2017 2:36 PM
prospect? (by Lisa [TX]) Jan 20, 2017 3:10 PM
prospect? (by CJ [MO]) Jan 20, 2017 3:17 PM
prospect? (by Ken [NY]) Jan 20, 2017 3:26 PM
prospect? (by razorback_tim [AR]) Jan 20, 2017 3:31 PM
prospect? (by Andrew, Canada [ON]) Jan 20, 2017 3:45 PM
prospect? (by Pat [WA]) Jan 20, 2017 3:49 PM
prospect? (by Robert,Ontario,Can [ON]) Jan 20, 2017 4:32 PM
prospect? (by Richard [MI]) Jan 20, 2017 5:00 PM
prospect? (by Jim in O C [CA]) Jan 20, 2017 5:09 PM
prospect? (by Stephen [ON]) Jan 20, 2017 5:13 PM
prospect? (by CJ [MO]) Jan 20, 2017 5:28 PM
prospect? (by Nicole [PA]) Jan 20, 2017 5:39 PM
prospect? (by E.S. [IL]) Jan 20, 2017 5:56 PM
prospect? (by Lisa. [AZ]) Jan 20, 2017 6:04 PM
prospect? (by Lynda [TX]) Jan 20, 2017 6:05 PM
prospect? (by Robert,Ontario,Can [ON]) Jan 20, 2017 6:09 PM
prospect? (by CDM [CA]) Jan 20, 2017 6:10 PM
prospect? (by Vee [OH]) Jan 20, 2017 7:29 PM
prospect? (by Andrew, Canada [ON]) Jan 21, 2017 3:41 AM
prospect? (by Britt [NC]) Jan 21, 2017 7:33 AM
prospect? (by Jan [MO]) Jan 21, 2017 7:37 AM
prospect? (by CJ [MO]) Jan 21, 2017 10:03 AM
prospect? (by NE [PA]) Jan 21, 2017 10:20 AM
prospect? (by CJ [MO]) Jan 21, 2017 10:40 AM
prospect? (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Jan 21, 2017 4:24 PM
prospect? (by rentON [PA]) Jan 21, 2017 4:59 PM
prospect? (by CJ [MO]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2017 1:29 PM
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The prospect viewed the unit and applied. and viewed the unit again.
Asking if they can buy a new stove and deduct from rent. Complaining the old stove not safe. I said "NO".
They give more reason. I asked "Did you ask your old landlord bought a new stove?"
They still have more reason for new stove. I said "you can pay for your new stove if you do not feel safe about our stove"
They still want the unit, should we take them?
--97.91.xxx.xxx |
prospect? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2017 1:42 PM
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I would find a reason to disqualify them for being too picky upfront. I say this, provided the stove is in good working order. Is it? Are their concerns justified?
Some landlord's rent out units with less than adequate appliances and facilities and wonder why people complain. If their concerns are not justified, pass. If the stove is garbage, replace it. --174.201.xx.xxx |
prospect? (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2017 1:48 PM
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recently tenant we had similar situation. right before move in, wanted newer stove, one with digital on timer. We were able to switch one out for her, she was 15 years at her old place. So we figured she is not one to move around and we'd like to keep her happy.
If you can not move appliances then it's not easy to get someone and have the expense.
Found a used, nice black stove, electronic timer on Craigslist for $75 and we could move it ourselves... so it was a small price to pay.
Seems like new move in s are asking for more, if you want me you will... sorta talk, I suppose they figure if they don't' get it moving in they will never get it.. .lots of truth there! --173.127.xxx.xxx |
prospect? (by CJ [MO]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2017 2:16 PM
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The stove is working, We have new cabinet, counter and vent and new bath for this unit. Only thing not new is the stove.
Their credit is under 500, but income ok.
I suspect they just want excuse to deduct so pay less to move in. --97.91.xxx.xxx |
prospect? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2017 2:18 PM
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The more I hear about this tenant, the more I want to pass. Wanting to deduct from the rent right from the get go sets the tone for the tenancy. Pass and fix the stove for the next tenant. --50.107.xxx.xxx |
prospect? (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2017 2:21 PM
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CJ, if they like your place, and they want a new stove, they can buy one ,and its theirs ,to take with them when they move.and to use while they still live there.You could be a nice guy and deduct $10 off the rent per month.Store the old stove in the garage or basement ,or whatever,to put in the apartment when they leave.otherwise just keep saying No.If you say something different,they might want you to keep changing other things at their whim?.............Charlie.......................................................... --174.199.x.xxx |
prospect? (by Amy [MO]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2017 2:36 PM
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If everything else is newer, the stove might stand out. Are they questioning anything else? Are they a stellar Prospect?
If they are a stellar Prospect and are not asking for anything else, remove the stove and give them a small credit for buying their own.
Normally, our appliances are simply a convenience, and not included with rent. If you leave it, they could be calling you every 5 to come and fix it.
If not a great Prospect, pass. --65.31.xxx.x |
prospect? (by Lisa [TX]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2017 3:10 PM
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Under 500 credit score? I'd pass. But if you still want to keep them, they need to buy their own stove. And if they do replace it be sure to take your stove out. If you don't they will sell it and you won't have it for the next turnover. --205.197.xxx.xxx |
prospect? (by CJ [MO]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2017 3:17 PM
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WE ask for 2 month deposit because of low credit. I think they should buy a new stove if they do not like the stove or do not feel safe.
Some tenants like to make safety excuses if they want something new or want some rent discount.
I do not know why they think the stove not safe, just not new? --97.91.xxx.xxx |
prospect? (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2017 3:26 PM
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This tenant is warning you now that if you rent to them they will be a PITA,head the warning and don't rent to them --24.25.xxx.xxx |
prospect? (by razorback_tim [AR]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2017 3:31 PM
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Assuming there is indeed nothing wrong with the stove you have in there tell them you will happily remove it and they can buy their own, but there is no reduction in rent. --70.178.x.xx |
prospect? (by Andrew, Canada [ON]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2017 3:45 PM
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If their credit is under 500, they will almost certainly not pay their rent according to the credit check company I use.
--70.31.xx.xxx |
prospect? (by Pat [WA]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2017 3:49 PM
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Credit under 500. PITA IN THE MAKING. I WOULD NOT RENT TO THEM... --72.134.xxx.xxx |
prospect? (by Robert,Ontario,Can [ON]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2017 4:32 PM
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Stoves are never unsafe unless the wiring is faulty. If they want a new stove then amortize the cost of a new stove into the rent. Say the stove costs $600.00 complete then charge $25 more per month as the stove maybe ready for scrap metal once the stove is banged up and chipped within two years. Remember every upgrade has to be paid for. Here most rental housing providers will not even go near anyone with a score below 600 along in the larger areas where the vacancy rate is approaching one per cent the score has to higher. Find a lot of people want expensive upgrades when the appliances are in working order or the carpet is not worn. Here it takes four to six month to evict for non-payment of rent. Be sure to check out any rental places that come up on the credit reports which are not on the rental application. Always run thorough credit checks on all adult applicants as one may have serious problems. --74.220.xxx.xxx |
prospect? (by Richard [MI]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2017 5:00 PM
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If they don't like the stove they are free to buy their own stove. No reduction in rent.
I'm a cheap one though, so I don't provide appliances. They can get them at a used appliance store all day for $150, delivered and installed with a 90 day guarante. --23.121.xx.xxx |
prospect? (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2017 5:09 PM
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Pass. FICO is under 500 and that worrying about a stove? --98.234.xxx.xxx |
prospect? (by Stephen [ON]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2017 5:13 PM
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Another for rejection. 500 is a low score and going back and forth on your appliances right at the outset is not a good sign. How much rental history do they have and is it positive? Have you checked several landlords? That might compensate for a 500 score but the PITA behavior from the get go suggests these tenants will take up a lot of your time. I have regretted it every time I have ignored signs of difficult behavior during the application process. --76.67.xxx.xxx |
prospect? (by CJ [MO]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2017 5:28 PM
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I am not sure we want them either. I asked for 2 month deposit. But they still want the unit. How do I refuse now. Too picky or credit score too low? --97.91.xxx.xxx |
prospect? (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2017 5:39 PM
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... Complaining the old stove not safe. I said "NO".
They give more reason. I asked "Did you ask your old landlord bought a new stove?"...
you seem to often have "issues" with tenants. this conversation shows one of the reasons why. Why in the world would you have asked them this question? If your answer is "no", it's "no" ... you and your unit have nothing at all to do with their last landlord interactions. --72.95.xx.xx |
prospect? (by E.S. [IL]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2017 5:56 PM
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Credit score 500? Too low, they are very irresponsible, and probably will not pay the rent on time. I will not rent anybody with 500 credit score, I required a 650 credit score minimum.
If they are already complaining about the stove before they move in, can you imagine after they move in? Don't rent to them, you will live to regret it. --192.168.x.xxx |
prospect? (by Lisa. [AZ]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2017 6:04 PM
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Under 500?
I thought that was just stuff of horror stories like Chupacabra! --184.101.xxx.xx |
prospect? (by Lynda [TX]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2017 6:05 PM
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CJ, No is NO! These people are bamboozling you becuse they sense they can. You are not being FIRM enough. Can they sense you are despirate for a tenant? You are NOT that despirate! How do you tell them? You tell them exectly what the posters here have said!
"The stove is fine as it is. It is clean and working. There is no safety issue. You are welcome to buy whatever stove you want--at your cost--and then take it with you when you move out. I will REMOVE my stove while you are here--is that what you want?"
I bet they will change their tune. Say it--and then STICK to it. If they rent elsewhere--No loss! You might have dodged a bullet! --190.80.xxx.xxx |
prospect? (by Robert,Ontario,Can [ON]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2017 6:09 PM
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From past experience generally find those low credit scores are dishonest along with starting to tell one how to run the rentals. It is worthwhile to check out the previous rental units where they lived to get a better picture how they live. Often found those with low credit scores have a unstable rental history as well. Unpaid utility bills along with other unpaid bills sets a precedent how rent is going to be paid. If someone has a $100 dollar unpaid hydro electric or gas bill then rent will always be a issue as well. Look up on the credit reports previous rental places. It maybe worthwhile to visit those previous rental places. January is generally not a good time to rent as many of the problem tenants generally get evicted as there is misconception they can not be evicted during the winter. If they applied for a mortgage with that low credit score more then likely they would be rejected. --74.220.xxx.xxx |
prospect? (by CDM [CA]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2017 6:10 PM
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Picky tenants with bad credit who want you to pay for extra things for them before they've even moved in? Definitely not. I would reject for the credit alone. I would also reject for the pickiness. Rent the unit you have, as-is. --24.130.xx.xx |
prospect? (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2017 7:29 PM
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Ask them how they feel about the fridge, if they balk take it out and away from the property - they will when they go, same cost without appliances, when folks come in with new ideas things will go downhill quickly, some uncle somewhere will remove your stuff cause he thought he could fix it in his place but never did. --76.188.xxx.xxx |
prospect? (by Andrew, Canada [ON]) Posted on: Jan 21, 2017 3:41 AM
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CJ, your last post just lept out at me!!!!!!!
Think about this.........despite you wanting 2 months deposit, despite the tenants insisting the stove is dangerous, THEY STILL WANT THE PROPERTY!!
Ask yourself, "why do they still want it, why are they so desparate". This smells wrong.
My gut feeling on these applicants is to reject, as others here have told you.
Such a low score is ample grounds to reject. That score is well below the average.
--70.31.xx.xxx |
prospect? (by Britt [NC]) Posted on: Jan 21, 2017 7:33 AM
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I had an older couple who still rents a house from us--they insisted on bringing their own stove. I was annoyed that I had move mine (property manager negotiated this without asking) but in the end they have lived there for almost 7 years and say they never want to leave. --99.182.xx.xxx |
prospect? (by Jan [MO]) Posted on: Jan 21, 2017 7:37 AM
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If you don't have stated rental criteria that you give all prospects, I recommend creating some. You then reject based on their not meeting your stated rental criteria. Stated = they were on notice before they applied = they can't complain about rental app. fee if they don't meet criteria.
Without stated criteria, how do you even start to determine who is qualified and who is not? The hard part is committing to the criteria, but I highly recommend it to protect yourself.
Regarding your current applicants, #1 I wouldn't consider anyone with a credit score under 600, let alone a score under 500. #2 Their behavior to date is clear and convincing evidence they are future problem tenants. No brainer here. Pass. --68.184.xxx.xxx |
prospect? (by CJ [MO]) Posted on: Jan 21, 2017 10:03 AM
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Jan (mo). we have a rent criteria, but very hard to find people meet the rent criteria. Very hard for me to tell some people are liar and trouble maker.
I will not rent to evicted people, drug people, people owns utility bills. I do not know if people without rental history is better than people with bad rental history or not. --97.91.xxx.xxx |
prospect? (by NE [PA]) Posted on: Jan 21, 2017 10:20 AM
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CJ, sometimes people without rental history are
Good because they can be trainable as long as everything else lines up. Your person on question sounds like a bum and you have already spent too much
Time on them. --174.201.x.xxx |
prospect? (by CJ [MO]) Posted on: Jan 21, 2017 10:40 AM
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NE, I agree with you, sometimes is better without rental history. Sometimes people without rental history is so unpredictable and hard to take care. --97.91.xxx.xxx |
prospect? (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Jan 21, 2017 4:24 PM
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I had a yahoo like that apply for my place last week.......we kicked him out of the state - guess he is in Missouri this week. --24.239.xx.xxx |
prospect? (by rentON [PA]) Posted on: Jan 21, 2017 4:59 PM
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Who is in charge of your business? If the stove IS unsafe, why in heavens name didn't you replace?
Remember to stay in charge of your business. Don't let the inmates run the asylum. --72.95.xxx.xxx |
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