Hiring Family Members (by David [NY]) Nov 8, 2016 6:11 PM
Hiring Family Members (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Nov 8, 2016 6:36 PM
Hiring Family Members (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Nov 8, 2016 6:36 PM
Hiring Family Members (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Nov 8, 2016 6:36 PM
Hiring Family Members (by pattyk [MO]) Nov 9, 2016 5:39 AM
Hiring Family Members (by Dave [NY]) Nov 9, 2016 6:39 AM
Hiring Family Members (by gevans [SC]) Nov 9, 2016 2:21 PM
Hiring Family Members (by pattyk [MO]) Nov 9, 2016 2:35 PM
Hiring Family Members (by David [NY]) Posted on: Nov 8, 2016 6:11 PM Message:
State Specific Question About: NEW YORK (NY)
Question on Hiring Family Members, specifically your son or daughter, this is for a sole proprietorship not set up a biz as I normally just file a schedule E on the 1040
but my question is since my kid (16 years old) was working me this past summer, making about 900 dollars can i also put money into an ira for them?
for those that have done it, do you file a 1099 on your kid at the end of the year? or do you create a ss4 and how do you establish a w2 and all the stuff that makes you a sole propritor. I see you can get an EIN number for free which i just did for the heck of it on the IRS web site. but wonder what you guys have done?
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Hiring Family Members (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Nov 8, 2016 6:36 PM Message:
David,
Short version: you can pay your son for legitmate work in/on your business and deduct it as a business expense, same as you pay a repairman or mower. You may pay a reasonable rate for his skill level based on if you had hired anyone to do the task.
A minor can earn up to ($4700??) before needing to file a tax return. (Ask a tax person- my kids are grown so I have not kept up on this)
IRA: son must have "earned income" to place money in an IRA. (From memory...) If he'll put in $1000 per year for the only the next 20 years he will have $1,000,000 at age retirement, compared to 30 years of investing if he starts at age 40 to accumulate $600,000.
Compound interest with time on his side.
BRAD --73.146.xxx.xxx |
Hiring Family Members (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Nov 8, 2016 6:36 PM Message:
David,
Short version: you can pay your son for legitmate work in/on your business and deduct it as a business expense, same as you pay a repairman or mower. You may pay a reasonable rate for his skill level based on if you had hired anyone to do the task.
A minor can earn up to ($4700??) before needing to file a tax return. (Ask a tax person- my kids are grown so I have not kept up on this)
IRA: son must have "earned income" to place money in an IRA. (From memory...) If he'll put in $1000 per year for the only the next 20 years he will have $1,000,000 at age retirement, compared to 30 years of investing if he starts at age 40 to accumulate $600,000.
Compound interest with time on his side.
BRAD --73.146.xxx.xxx |
Hiring Family Members (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Nov 8, 2016 6:36 PM Message:
David,
Short version: you can pay your son for legitmate work in/on your business and deduct it as a business expense, same as you pay a repairman or mower. You may pay a reasonable rate for his skill level based on if you had hired anyone to do the task.
A minor can earn up to ($4700??) before needing to file a tax return. (Ask a tax person- my kids are grown so I have not kept up on this)
IRA: son must have "earned income" to place money in an IRA. (From memory...) If he'll put in $1000 per year for the only the next 20 years he will have $1,000,000 at age retirement, compared to 30 years of investing if he starts at age 40 to accumulate $600,000.
Compound interest with time on his side.
BRAD --73.146.xxx.xxx |
Hiring Family Members (by pattyk [MO]) Posted on: Nov 9, 2016 5:39 AM Message:
The kid worked all summer and you are just now paying him... Oh boy. Give him his pay and then guide him. Don't hold the money hostage. Teach him. --66.87.xx.xxx |
Hiring Family Members (by Dave [NY]) Posted on: Nov 9, 2016 6:39 AM Message:
PattyK I actually paid for his trip to Germany this past year, & still works with maintenance tasks & jobs on my properties but yes I'm trying to teach.
As to Brad's 20,000 point, I want him to have money for retirement and 1 million sounds great if I can put money into an IRA or Roth that money before 4.7K is taxed at only 10% verses my 25% tax rate, but wondered how to process with the government since I only file a 1040 schedule e. I keep good records to show earned income so that shouldn't be an issue but just wondered how the process worked.
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Hiring Family Members (by gevans [SC]) Posted on: Nov 9, 2016 2:21 PM Message:
You can pay your family members between 7 and 17 $4750 per year tax free.
Use your own discretion, but some suggestions:
Make him pay for his own trips and entertainment... out of that same money.
Help him make some investments.
Set up a budget so he can get a feel for where money goes. --74.222.xxx.xxx |
Hiring Family Members (by pattyk [MO]) Posted on: Nov 9, 2016 2:35 PM Message:
Ok. Sure. Check out from your tax man how much you can pay someone without 1099ing them. I believe it would be under $600. For the balance just take an Owner's withdraw and pay him. Or pay him$600, for2016 and in jan pay him another amount under $600 --66.87.xx.xxx |
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