Veterans (by Mick [CA]) Oct 17, 2016 4:24 PM
Veterans (by Jason [PA]) Oct 17, 2016 4:45 PM
Veterans (by plenty [MO]) Oct 17, 2016 5:04 PM
Veterans (by Mick [CA]) Oct 17, 2016 5:53 PM
Veterans (by Gail K [GA]) Oct 17, 2016 7:01 PM
Veterans (by Vee [OH]) Oct 17, 2016 7:25 PM
Veterans (by Robert J [CA]) Oct 17, 2016 9:22 PM
Veterans (by Gail K [GA]) Oct 18, 2016 6:10 AM
Veterans (by John... [MI]) Oct 18, 2016 6:17 AM
Veterans (by mick [CA]) Oct 18, 2016 6:39 AM
Veterans (by Gail K [GA]) Oct 18, 2016 7:34 AM
Veterans (by J [FL]) Oct 18, 2016 4:22 PM
Veterans (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Oct 19, 2016 4:39 PM
Veterans (by Mick [CA]) Posted on: Oct 17, 2016 4:24 PM Message:
State Specific Question About: CALIFORNIA (CA)
City of San Diego has a homeless veterans program "housing our heroes". It offers incentives to LL who rent to vets. Wondering if other cities have such a program? I have turned down two clients that viewed my unit. First there was a boyfriend/girlfriend couple and the male had a 2 y/o eviction. Second client came to the interview reeking of alcohol. And the guy admitted his was a paranoid schizophrenic on medicine. I got kinda rough with him and told he shouldn't be drinking and taking those meds. Pass.
The vet program has called me a few times after these interviews to tell me how great the program is and poof up the monetary incentives, but I'm 'bout fed up with the clientele.
Thoughts? --166.137.x.xx |
Veterans (by Jason [PA]) Posted on: Oct 17, 2016 4:45 PM Message:
I have 39 units been doing this 17 years and I'm a combat vet with high ratings for PTSD irritable bowel and more. I've seen postings like this where everyone just jumps in and lumps all veterans in some category which is total nonsense. Do your regular screening and that's that --74.99.xxx.xx |
Veterans (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Oct 17, 2016 5:04 PM Message:
Its not working. Do what works --66.87.xx.xx |
Veterans (by Mick [CA]) Posted on: Oct 17, 2016 5:53 PM Message:
@Jason- I'm not lumping all veterans together. Both me and my husband are vets, so I'm quite knowledgeable and sensitive to outreach programs. I have worked with transitioning Army, Navy and Marines for quite some time both in State and Federal positions. I have stood in line and waited patiently with at the VA with my WWII grandpa and husband trying to get them fixed. Anyway, I was just illustrating the challenge I had with the clients I encountered --166.137.xxx.xxx |
Veterans (by Gail K [GA]) Posted on: Oct 17, 2016 7:01 PM Message:
The HUD VASH program provides vouchers for homeless veterans.
Local Housing Authorities provide the vouchers to local VA Medical Centers who work with this program. The participants are closely monitored by the outpatient Social Workers assigned to them; lots of home visits to make certain rent and other bills were being paid on time and places are kept clean.
The idea is that veterans who participate in the program be able to save enough money to be able to get off this program and afford housing on their own; their voucher is then passed on to another homeless veteran.
At least in the VA I worked at this had a fairly good success rate. Most of the veterans were single men and women and thus would be approved for just a one bedroom rental unit.
Gail --73.20.xxx.xxx |
Veterans (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Oct 17, 2016 7:25 PM Message:
My experience with HUD VASH was the definition of amazing politics, the applicant moved his belongings to the upstairs but not his wife, had a friend living in the first floor using water like a community swimming pool bathhouse, the office staff was unresponsive, his checks NSF, hopefully the program is better since 2 years ago because some of them really need the help since the VA is pushing the patients down the exit chute faster than ever. --76.188.xxx.xxx |
Veterans (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Oct 17, 2016 9:22 PM Message:
I like to help people out but if you have to put a Veteran on the street because he is causing problems and your loosing other tenants, who do you think a judge is going to side on? The rich landlord or a Vet looking to keep a roof over his head? --47.151.xx.xxx |
Veterans (by Gail K [GA]) Posted on: Oct 18, 2016 6:10 AM Message:
The veterans who enter this program tend not to be inpatients being discharged but rather homeless veterans picked up through clinic visits or community outreach programs.
Unfortunately some of these vets still deal with issues of substance abuse and/or psychiatric issues and have gone through all the "good graces" of every family member and loved one who has previously provided support.
It's also important to keep in mind that many veterans never saw a day of combat during their military experiences. They may be folks who do well when in a controlled environment such as the military (or incarceration) but make lousy choices on their own.
A good rule might be that if their own mother doesn't want to have anything to do with them they're likely to be poor tenant candidates even if their rent is being paid by others.
Gail --73.20.xxx.xxx |
Veterans (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Oct 18, 2016 6:17 AM Message:
Jason: If you take these, then there is much more to it than "Do your regular screening and that's that." Pretty much NONE of these people would pass anyone's "regular screening." If they would, then they wouldn't need a special program to try to find them housing!
Sorry, but the reality is that these are similar to Section 8 applicants. They are borderline at best and might only qualify because of other incentives for the landlord. They are high-risk, in general.
I know you don't want to "lump them all together", but, again, these are basically homeless people looking for housing. They are ALL going to have significant issues and they are ALL on this program because they would not otherwise qualify through "regular screening."
- John...
--35.32.xx.xx |
Veterans (by mick [CA]) Posted on: Oct 18, 2016 6:39 AM Message:
@Gail, yes -- the clients that were brought to me were from an outreach program through a subcontract from VASH. The program in San Diego was approved in March, so I'm sure there are still growing pains with trying to get LLs on board. The program even offers an additional $2k if your rental damaged beyond the SD. However, you ever try getting a refund from the govt? --76.238.xxx.xxx |
Veterans (by Gail K [GA]) Posted on: Oct 18, 2016 7:34 AM Message:
"However, you ever try getting a refund from the govt? "
Tell me about it! (and I'm a retired federal employee).
I've had a few veterans on this program contact me when I was still working at the VA. Again, they were single vets so approved for a 1 bedroom rental which I don't have. That was my out.
I also felt as long as I was employed at the VA it would be a conflict of interest for me to accept veterans associated with this program.
Gail --73.20.xxx.xxx |
Veterans (by J [FL]) Posted on: Oct 18, 2016 4:22 PM Message:
Yes, they unveiled this program here in my area a year or two ago. They claim that the gov't agency will pay for any damage the tenants do to the unit. It all sounded a little too good to be true to me.
I have a friend who is a Vietnam vet who thought I should get involved with this program but after reading about Section 8 problems I was very leery of getting involved with goverment housing programs, especially a brand new one where they haven't even worked the kinks out yet. --50.89.xxx.xxx |
Veterans (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Oct 19, 2016 4:39 PM Message:
Veterans earned the ALL help that they are receiving. But programs like HUD-HASH are for those that are having extreme issues. Are these going to be typical folks - probably not.
A typical screening isn't going to work....unless maybe if you have a boarding home.
Transition housing is a tough niche. I can't understand why anyone would ever want it, but those who do it get paid fairly well and they probably sleep well at night knowing that they are doing social good. If you are doing this, you are a better person than me.
If you don't like helping those in extreme need, then don't. Its understandable. Some of these folks are special needs. It takes a special person to deal with these issues. The government isn't just going to hand out money to everyone if it was easy.
--24.239.xx.xxx |
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