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landlord couples (by Goose3 [OH]) Oct 12, 2016 6:24 AM
       landlord couples (by WMH [NC]) Oct 12, 2016 6:35 AM
       landlord couples (by Robert,Ontario,Can [ON]) Oct 12, 2016 6:45 AM
       landlord couples (by cjl [NY]) Oct 12, 2016 7:03 AM
       landlord couples (by Mickie [OH]) Oct 12, 2016 7:04 AM
       landlord couples (by Amy [MO]) Oct 12, 2016 7:21 AM
       landlord couples (by Blue [IL]) Oct 12, 2016 7:36 AM
       landlord couples (by Deanna [TX]) Oct 12, 2016 7:46 AM
       landlord couples (by allin [VA]) Oct 12, 2016 8:18 AM
       landlord couples (by RathdrumGal [ID]) Oct 12, 2016 8:20 AM
       landlord couples (by S i d [MO]) Oct 12, 2016 8:35 AM
       landlord couples (by Jeffrey [VA]) Oct 12, 2016 8:35 AM
       landlord couples (by plenty [MO]) Oct 12, 2016 8:40 AM
       landlord couples (by Jim in O C [CA]) Oct 12, 2016 8:42 AM
       landlord couples (by myob [GA]) Oct 12, 2016 9:00 AM
       landlord couples (by WMH [NC]) Oct 12, 2016 9:31 AM
       landlord couples (by myob [GA]) Oct 12, 2016 11:24 AM
       landlord couples (by Still Learning [NH]) Oct 12, 2016 1:41 PM
       landlord couples (by WMH [NC]) Oct 12, 2016 1:51 PM
       landlord couples (by JAC [OH]) Oct 12, 2016 4:55 PM
       landlord couples (by Robin [WI]) Oct 12, 2016 7:07 PM
       landlord couples (by GKARL [PA]) Oct 12, 2016 8:02 PM
       landlord couples (by cjo'H [CT]) Oct 12, 2016 8:39 PM
       landlord couples (by cjo'h [CT]) Oct 12, 2016 8:57 PM
       landlord couples (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Oct 12, 2016 10:49 PM
       landlord couples (by Amy [MO]) Oct 13, 2016 5:16 AM
       landlord couples (by Nellie [ME]) Oct 13, 2016 5:37 AM
       landlord couples (by pat [TN]) Oct 13, 2016 10:34 AM
       landlord couples (by Valerie [VA]) Oct 13, 2016 10:49 AM
       landlord couples (by Tim [IL]) Oct 13, 2016 7:49 PM
       landlord couples (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Oct 15, 2016 4:16 PM


landlord couples (by Goose3 [OH]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2016 6:24 AM
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thinking about buying a rental property but my spouse is not interested in getting involved. How much of a factor is having your spouse involved? Can I do this on my own? --40.133.xxx.xxx




landlord couples (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2016 6:35 AM
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For us it's a huge factor, and no I could not do this alone, and neither could he. As a team, we help each other focus on what our strengths are, give encouragement where needed, and lean on each other. But we are in this as a biz now, and rely on the income to live!

To be honest, I was no more interested in getting into the rental biz that I was in moving to NC, but here I am and there we are...

But one rental, sure you can do it alone. But it rarely stops at one, once you get the bug...

--173.22.xx.xx




landlord couples (by Robert,Ontario,Can [ON]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2016 6:45 AM
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It is never easy but when two people are involved the outcome improves. Remember this is business where both people benefit. Also consider joining a landlords association where there are listings on this site or Google to find one close to the rental instead making common mistakes. --74.220.xxx.xxx




landlord couples (by cjl [NY]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2016 7:03 AM
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Is your spouse "dead set against it" or "just not interested"? There is a difference there too.

I don't think my wife really was "interested" but went along. I pretty much do the majority of everything but she is there for support. By this I mean I locate and screen the tenants, find the contractors, do any of the work, get the phone calls, emails, texts, etc.

She is there (always) giving me advice when needed, and the emotional support. A few years ago she was let go from her job and we went searching for a multi-family so she wouldn't have to go back and find a day-to-day job working 8-whenever.

We found one that we both liked in good shape. This property is "hers" (I have to keep reminding her that it is) both of us own it though ... but again - I am the one that is doing the above mentioned "fun" stuff - killing bees, fixing drains, etc.

She likes the "passive income" that it provides and allows her to "work" (help) in the office when she wants (which actually she LOVES).

So yes it "matters" but I think it depends on what you want to do and what the spouse/partner is thinking. Talk with them. If you are under the impression that it's both of your money and you both will be doing everything together (at least right off) with the other person already saying "no, not interested" - then you shouldn't because it won't be a fun ride. --70.184.xx.xx




landlord couples (by Mickie [OH]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2016 7:04 AM
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I do it on my own. My hubby isn't interested. I would love it if he were but he isn't. So what does that mean for me? The things I can't do on my own (due to a full time day job) like rehabbing a house I hire out. Why does all this work for me? I put together a support system (electrician, plumbers, great contractor, CPA, lawyer). --70.194.xxx.xxx




landlord couples (by Amy [MO]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2016 7:21 AM
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This could cause a huge split in your family unit.

My husband and I bought a lot of investments, but he wanted to flip them, while I wanted to rent them out. They weren't worth enough to flip, or even come out even after the market flop. That was scary. Many times we've wanted to throw in the towel.

My husband has great management and people skills, whereas I'm the researcher, behind the scenes type. Both of us like to stay busy. Being together in this business, has both its rewards and punishments. When it's bad, though, I can't imagine how much harder it would be for one if the other wasn't on board. There's a trickle effect anyway, so your SO would be affected whether or not that was your intention.

If you feel you must go down this road, make sure you have talked it over thoroughly, researched and researched and have your SOs blessing for YOU to go ahead with the investment(knowing they will have to absorb some of excess)Money is the usual cause of splits, so make sure you have a backup plan financially as it isn't foolproof. --107.77.xxx.xx




landlord couples (by Blue [IL]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2016 7:36 AM
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I agree the main question is, "dead set against it" or "just not interested".

If "dead set against" then you are fighting an uphill battle. Rentals cost money, sometimes money you don't have at the moment. A person who can't see the big picture or is frightened by risk will freak out. Also there are times this is a 7 day a week job.

Just not interested is something that can be overcome once the benefits can be shown.

I already had my rentals when I met my SO. I RARELY asked for any help with them (my problem, not his), but a few times he would volunteer to help with something.

Fast forward 12 years, he sees the headaches but he also sees the benefits. I would not have survived the downturn in the economy had it not been for the rentals.

This year he bought 5 units!! I am managing them, of course. ;) He realizes that this is the best shot we both have for a reasonable retirement. Esp since one of mine is paid off, and 2 more will be in 7 years.

--63.252.xxx.xxx




landlord couples (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2016 7:46 AM
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Is your spouse okay with throwing you a pile of money, and telling you to have at, but don't get them involved?

It's much more helpful if both of you are on board. There are a few elements: the purchase; the renovation/maintenance; the legal stuff; the tenant management; the paperwork. The more the both of you can do in-house, the less of your profits you need to divert towards other people, and the more quickly your biz can start being self-supporting.

Even when both people are involved, there's usually a line drawn as to how much of our personal assets one party is willing to donate to the cause. Like, when I needed to pay the plumber, the electrician, Lowe's, the mortgage, and the insurance on a current renovation-- and I didn't have enough in savings to cover an unexpected bed bug heat treatment. Guess where that money came from. And guess who wasn't pleased. :(

Money is usually a major cause of stress in any marriage. If you have good communication, excess funds in the bank account that are just gathering dust, and cool heads, you can probably have a good shot at success. But if your husband is actively opposed to the idea (rather than just being a neutral-mehh), you might consider something like a real estate investment club, and settle for the less-control and less-profits in exchange for opening that door just a tiny crack.

We talked about RE investing and I read all the books for about eleven years before DH was finally comfortable enough with making the jump. What gave him the confidence to go forward was talking with a friend who owned some apartment complexes in Houston. We bought a little $7k fixer-upper in 2009, and since then have grown in size and experience. :) So if you have any friends in your circle who are in the biz, you might look into having dinner together sometime. --209.33.x.xx




landlord couples (by allin [VA]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2016 8:18 AM
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I started alone and my wife go into the mix later after we owned a couple of SFH. Now they are our main source of income and I could not continue without her help.

Start with one and see how it goes. If you don't like it selling one rental is not that hard. --192.94.xx.xx




landlord couples (by RathdrumGal [ID]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2016 8:20 AM
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I wanted a multifamily since my adult daughter got her first apartment in 2010. I could not believe how much she paid for a horrid little studio. It was easy to see that the converted old house in the older part of town was bringing in the big bucks.

In 2013 we moved from a high cost area to a low cost area for retirement. We sold our free and clear big house and had a lot of cash. I had to convince my husband that the it would be smart to keep the same proportion of our investment portfolio in RE. We ended up buying through an apartment broker the perfect property for an older semi-retired couple -- two run down triplexes that needed a lot of cosmetics. My husband was NOT dead set against this -- he was just passive; I was the researcher and driving force. We have a handy man for the bathroom remodels, we paint, install Allure, clean and hubby does the landscape maintenance. We probably spend 6 hours/week on the rental when we are not rehabbing an apartment. We "rehomed" the tenants who paid late and did not follow the rules. We are have great cash flow, so we do not panic when we have a vacancy, and give our tenants good value. We are running 100% full this year and getting a 10% return on our money. We are VERY happy that we made this choice. If we were younger, we would expand, but the whole idea was to RETIRE - not get another job! Hubby and I both have decades in human services, and have no trouble enforcing rules when it comes to tenant management. --98.145.xx.xxx




landlord couples (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2016 8:35 AM
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Like cjl and Blue, my spouse is not involved in the daily affairs, but she supports my efforts. It makes sense: she's not into wheeling and dealing or busting on folks who fail to pay rent. I love it. She will do things like drop off copies of the lease or run over to unlock a place if someone has a lock-out (mainly because I pay her for it!) and she'll help me research deals online because she likes hunting for stuff. We each have our strengths and assign tasks that fit to the person best able to do them.

So as others have said you need to have a unity of support, if nothing else. My wife and I as a married couple are ONE, just like the preacher said. That means we support each other and there is no "his 'n her" finances: it's OUR finances, OUR rentals, OUR future, OUR dreams, etc. --173.19.xx.xxx




landlord couples (by Jeffrey [VA]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2016 8:35 AM
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In case you are not aware, there is a great resource available on this site on that very subject, which I believe could be extremely helpful to you. It's called - "Real Estate Couples Winning Together" -

www.mrlandlord.com/mllshop/productdisplay.html?SKU=D9&type=Wealth%20Building%20Books:Home%20Study%20Courses --72.214.xx.x




landlord couples (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2016 8:40 AM
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so when you say you are thinking about rental properties,,, what do you think about? what do you like about it? what would be your goals? why? --174.155.xx.xx




landlord couples (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2016 8:42 AM
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My wife has been with me 100% from day one in 1970. Day we jointly enjoy the fruits of our labor's . --108.196.xxx.xxx




landlord couples (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2016 9:00 AM
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Owning 1 or 2 rentals, in my opinion, is a no no. It's not worth the time and effort. You need to plan on quantity and for that you need help-- help that you can't get from a stranger.

When purchasing we use the McDonald's theory. When you only make .02 per hamburger it's not worth making 2 or 3. When you make and sell 1 billion that are .02 each-- now works. You have to stay current with laws, advertising, fixing up, bookkeeping on and on and it's just not worth it for a few. --74.184.xxx.xx




landlord couples (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2016 9:31 AM
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I sort of disagree with you MYOB. Yes, more is better and spreading the risk and wealth around across multiple properties makes life MUCH easier to be sure.

But everyone starts somewhere. We started with one duplex that we thought we would rent until we retired to it in 20 years...That was in 2003. We were perfectly happy to let someone else pay for our house.

In 2004 we acquired another duplex, a quadplex, a property with another duplex and four cottages on it...and several more since then.

It became our passion and, in 2012, our sole livelihood, but we did not foresee this 13 years ago. --173.22.xx.xx




landlord couples (by myob [GA]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2016 11:24 AM
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WMH can I ask did you start with one thinking I only want one? or many? --74.184.xxx.xx




landlord couples (by Still Learning [NH]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2016 1:41 PM
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I think it depends as others have said whether your spouse doesn't want to be asked to do showings, paint, interact with tenants or wants nothing to do with it and will be upset with your time being taken up by the rental property. 2 very different scenarios. I take care of our rental properties, but especially in the beginning, I needed more support from my husband. On large turnovers, we look at the cost of painting and he can decide to give up his weekend and help or it gets hired out. We have made decisions in both directions depending on the cost and timing. In my opinion, you want to treat it like a business and stay on top of the laws.

MYOB - I disagree that owning 1 or 2 is a no no. First, everyone needs to start somewhere and not every person who begins down this rental business will like it or be good at it and want to continue. Every person or couple also has their own goals. We currently have 2 multis. I manage over 10 units and based on our goals and lifestyle I'm not sure we will look to buy more. --73.253.xxx.xxx




landlord couples (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2016 1:51 PM
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Myob, we had rented out a few prior residences before selling. Some good experiences, some disasters because we didn't know what we were doing (rented to friends, etc.) YEARS ago and we really had no desire to be landlords.

When we started THIS project, our goal was simply to find property on the water to which we could retire someday. Prices were spiraling out of control (the bubble) and we thought, "If we don't buy now, we'll never be able to afford it!" So we settled on a duplex that would hopefully pay the mortgage through renting it...

That was all we wanted...we closed in October and by January, after we had renovated and rented it, we were on the hunt again. That quick, we were addicted!! --173.22.xx.xx




landlord couples (by JAC [OH]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2016 4:55 PM
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My wife does the bills and will lend a hand when needed but isn't really involved in the remodels, maintenance or operation. There is always more work than you will anticipate so expect your time to be limited. Things break when you least expect it and when you have other things going on but I have found over time not to freak out. Be timely on your repairs, be responsive to tenants when the issue requires it and have some money in reserve to get big items fixed. It takes time to get the property flowing but it can be a lucrative investment if done properly. It can help out at tax time too so do your research on those perks. --72.49.xxx.xx




landlord couples (by Robin [WI]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2016 7:07 PM
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Yes, you can do it on your own. With my DH, our arrangement has always been that he earns the money and I spend/invest it. Fortunately for him, I'd rather spend our money on property than consumer goods! It became a standing joke; any time I said, "Honey, can we talk?" he'd say, "Let me guess--you bought another house without me knowing?"

With another layoff pending, though, we've set a goal to use RE to retire in five years. Instead of me doing all the work, we're playing to our strengths. I'm good at tenant management and administrative stuff. He's good at negotiating and networking. So our plan is for him to handle the day-to-day of acquisitions and general contracting, and I'll manage the properties once they're ready to rent. Tune in in six months and I'll let you know how it's gone!

--104.230.xxx.xxx




landlord couples (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2016 8:02 PM
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Great stories of couples working together. Unfortunately, not every couple shares the same vision and focus. Working together to do something should be natural and easy. That's not to suggest that there are no challenges even with that, but those can be overcome if you're on the same page. My wife and I are not, so it's far more preferable that I do this mostly on my own as that's far less hassle. Sometimes work is created rather than saved depending on who you're working with. Fortunately, I've been able to create a support network of people who I can bounce things off of and who can help in other ways. That's not entirely optimal, but it works for me and my peace of mind. --207.172.xxx.xxx




landlord couples (by cjo'H [CT]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2016 8:39 PM
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Myob, you think McDonalds is in the business of selling hamburgers? You have another think coming, what if I Were to let you in on a little secret,it's really Real Estate. I started into the business because when I immigrated here I couldn't see paying $100 a month for a five room apartment with utilities included. ......................Charlie...... ..... .... ... .. . --174.199.xx.xxx




landlord couples (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2016 8:57 PM
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Rathdrum Gal, how's the do se do going. Wales made it to the semi in the Rugby league.I think they beat Belgium 3. - 1. Charlie.............. .................. ...... ........ --174.199.xx.xxx




landlord couples (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Oct 12, 2016 10:49 PM
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Goose3,

When men say "How can I get my wife involved?" they usually mean

"How can I get my wife to clean nasty rental toilets so I don't have to - so I can do the cool stuff instead." And wives see right thru that! so they back away saying things like "Oh no you don't!".

If you want to do this, get real training - get your bod to Jeffrey's Boot Camp. Newbie investors lose money and ruin marriages from lack of knowledge.

Explain your plan to her, set some $ limits, kiss her, and ask for her cooperation, NOT her help, "I want to try this. I think I can make it work." Include HER goal like "Honey, when we clear the first $500 I'm taking you to ______ for a nice sit down dinner with waiters and cloth napkins!" Then she'll say "We'll see."

Then bust your arz and make it happen. Pressure is ON!

Women crave security and MONEY IN FIST helps that. When she sees some real cash...she MIGHT do a little something to help out. Baby Steps!!

Too many husbands have tried scheme after scheme, usually poorly thought out and poorly managed, so they lost money.

Do NOT be partners with your drinking buddy or brother in law. Make it on your own and keep all the money!

Think of it like fishing. You go with your buddies, not on your anniversary! and come back when expected. Bring home some fillets and YOU cook them and serve them to her. Do NOT slap some dead fish on the counter and say "Gut these while I take a shower."

In our case I was doing MY business all by myself. I bought a few more and my job hours got longer, so she nicely OFFERED to deposit the rents at the bank, drop of a key, etc. Just ONE at at time.

Then she figured out I was not good at getting the bills paid on time (I had the money...I'll get around to paying them!) She saw some $25 late fees and snatched the checkbook off my desk and started paying the bills on time.

In the beginning I had zero knowledge and the few houses were break even, so no extra cash.

I came home one day and there was a new patio table and chairs on the porch. Nothing fancy, just your basic WalMart beginner set, $247. I said "Where's that come from?" because we were close to broke. She replied "I paid the bills, there was money left, so *I* spent it on what I wanted!" She was hooked!

Fast forward a few years, in the car headed to the airport to fly to Maui on a "tax deductible business trip" and she says "I still don't understand it. HOW do we make money?"

Start with training!

Get with your local assoc and make some contacts. As much as we talk about houses, this is really a people business and you'll need all the contacts you can muster.

BRAD

--73.146.xxx.xxx




landlord couples (by Amy [MO]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2016 5:16 AM
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Brad, I love the dead fish analogy. There have been times... --107.77.xx.xx




landlord couples (by Nellie [ME]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2016 5:37 AM
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Is the significant other going to resent the time you spend at the property? If so, then it should be a no go. --70.16.xx.xx




landlord couples (by pat [TN]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2016 10:34 AM
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My husband and I have been in the rental business since 2001. I am the sole owner of the business. I handle all the paperwork and financial end of the business. He is the property manager and is responsible for assisting with the showings (he is retired and more available)during normal business hours. He does give feedback regarding appearances, interactions, etc. He is responsible for the maintenance, esp plumbing and electrical. I do most of the inside cosmetic and cleaning between renters. I collect the rent money and responsible for the final bills involved in the rentals. I am setting up a Business account with my primary bank to have the rent auto deposit to my account per bank draft. One of the other things I look at when showing the rental is the vehicle that they drive in is a clue as to how they will take care of the rental property. Example, if car is filthy-meaning fast food bags, etc all over the inside of the car and looks like it is not well maintained is a sure sign they do not take care of other people's property. Also, the way the children behave and treat your property while looking at the property is another clue as to how they will take care of your property. Also, I try to limit the family to no more than 2-3 children, mostly because I only have 2 and 3 br houses that does not accommodate a larger family. Another clue is how they talk on the phone as to how they respect other people's property. Can't refuse to show the property but can put application on the bottom of the pile. --152.130.x.x




landlord couples (by Valerie [VA]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2016 10:49 AM
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My husband supplies the funds and pays the bills and I do EVERYTHING else and I love it that way. I enjoy the process - finding properties, fixing them, and even dealing with tenants. And he loves the income. I feel flattered that he trusts my judgment completely. It has been wonderful! I could not do it without his financial investment and he could not do it without my day-to-day management. I put in many more hours - but I want to - and his contribution may not take much time but it is just as essential. --70.197.xxx.xxx




landlord couples (by Tim [IL]) Posted on: Oct 13, 2016 7:49 PM
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I have a different point of view.

I married my wife not a business partner. I just think working in the business together can blur the lines.

I have seen it go real good and real bad.

There is no right or wrong.

Tim --50.178.x.xx




landlord couples (by Ray-N-Pa [PA]) Posted on: Oct 15, 2016 4:16 PM
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Happy wife - happy life.

If she isn't happy, will you be?

This is a major obligation....the two of you have to be on the same page. --24.239.xx.xxx





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