 electric heat rates (by bob [NY]) Aug 15, 2016 5:46 PM
 electric heat rates (by Nicole [PA]) Aug 15, 2016 6:12 PM
electric heat rates (by Robert,Ontario,Can [ON]) Aug 15, 2016 7:30 PM
electric heat rates (by LindaJ [NY]) Aug 16, 2016 5:03 AM
electric heat rates (by Robert,Ontario,Can [ON]) Aug 16, 2016 9:34 AM
electric heat rates (by bob [NY]) Posted on: Aug 15, 2016 5:46 PM
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State Specific Question About: NEW YORK (NY)
Hi , i'm looking at a building which is slab and electric heat in upstate NY. The only thing I ever heard about electric heat is it costs the tenants multiple times more than gas heat ? Which leads me to wonder if the only future tenants are going to be subsidized not cash paying ? Any advice ? Thanks BOB --173.64.x.xxx |
electric heat rates (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Aug 15, 2016 6:12 PM
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yes, it does cost them a lot more ... if they are bozos and don't pay attention. If they keep it turned back when they're out, keep doors to unused rooms (such as the bedroom until bedtime) shut, don't open the doors and windows, it's not too bad in a smaller unit.
Others may say "allure" but you absolutely need carpet & the padding for the warmth. --72.70.xxx.xxx |
electric heat rates (by Robert,Ontario,Can [ON]) Posted on: Aug 15, 2016 7:30 PM
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Two things are required. First upgrade the insulation and windows where the heat loss is reduced. Next consider installing a split type of heat pump which works as a air conditioner in reverse in the winter time. A higher efficiency system will use less then half the power of electric baseboards. Another option is to install radiant electric heat in the slab where the wattage is significantly reduced. If the insulation is upgraded then there is minimal heat loss so the power consumption drops. Having a heat pump offers the tenant air conditioning in the warmer months where not many competing rental units have a efficient air conditioning system. High efficiency heat pumps are expensive to install but when one factors in vacancies it pays. There are many videos on you tube about heat pumps. Installing natural gas is much more expensive or installing a central boiler system is not cost effective as heat is included in the rent where heat is wasted. It is easy to think in a box but out of the box things look different. --216.110.xxx.xxx |
electric heat rates (by LindaJ [NY]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2016 5:03 AM
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Most tenants do not want electric heat in my area of upstate. There are not many places that are electric because NY has one of the highest costs for electric and only going to get higher. I notice that the few electric heat houses do not sell easily either.
The other day a builder said, everyone in the North East expects a basement, down south they don't want one. The slab is going to be hard on the feet and cold if it was not properly insulated (year built?). I remember when I was young, one of my friends had a house on a slab, and I did not like going there in the winter.
Insulation will be a big factor, how much is there, what can you do to beef it up. Can you retrofit a gas heater? At least that would bring the energy costs down. How long will a tenant stay with high energy costs and what will be your turnover costs. --108.4.xxx.xxx |
electric heat rates (by Robert,Ontario,Can [ON]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2016 9:34 AM
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Converting to natural gas is much more expensive along with all new gas code requirements of venting. A split high efficiency heat pump uses less half the power then with upgrading the insulation and windows that drops even further. Very few rental rental units have air conditioning which is not common with rentals. A high efficiency heat pump the rotary compressor modulates where only turns enough to maintain temperature. With wall mounted gas heaters is expensive along with venting is always a issue. The vent pipe has to be so far from a window or door opening or ventilation system. Do a rough cost of comparison between a heat pump and natural gas. A wall mounted high efficiency gas is boiler expensive along with piping all the radiators in. --69.158.xxx.xxx |
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