 OT: Buying F-150 (by Roy [AL]) Jun 20, 2016 5:41 AM
 OT: Buying F-150 (by plenty [MO]) Jun 20, 2016 5:52 AM
OT: Buying F-150 (by Roy [AL]) Jun 20, 2016 6:05 AM
OT: Buying F-150 (by pattyk [MO]) Jun 20, 2016 6:11 AM
OT: Buying F-150 (by Mickie [OH]) Jun 20, 2016 6:12 AM
OT: Buying F-150 (by LisaFL [FL]) Jun 20, 2016 6:15 AM
OT: Buying F-150 (by Homer [TX]) Jun 20, 2016 6:28 AM
OT: Buying F-150 (by Jim in O C [CA]) Jun 20, 2016 6:55 AM
OT: Buying F-150 (by Roy [AL]) Jun 20, 2016 6:56 AM
OT: Buying F-150 (by pattyk [MO]) Jun 20, 2016 6:58 AM
OT: Buying F-150 (by Sisco [MO]) Jun 20, 2016 7:06 AM
OT: Buying F-150 (by pete [OR]) Jun 20, 2016 7:09 AM
OT: Buying F-150 (by Homer [TX]) Jun 20, 2016 7:14 AM
OT: Buying F-150 (by Pattyk [MO]) Jun 20, 2016 7:19 AM
OT: Buying F-150 (by James [NC]) Jun 20, 2016 7:21 AM
OT: Buying F-150 (by Robert,Ontario,Can [ON]) Jun 20, 2016 7:25 AM
OT: Buying F-150 (by razorback_tim [AR]) Jun 20, 2016 7:52 AM
OT: Buying F-150 (by Homer [TX]) Jun 20, 2016 8:10 AM
OT: Buying F-150 (by Roy [AL]) Jun 20, 2016 8:30 AM
OT: Buying F-150 (by J [IN]) Jun 20, 2016 8:43 AM
OT: Buying F-150 (by Gail K [GA]) Jun 20, 2016 8:47 AM
OT: Buying F-150 (by razorback_tim [AR]) Jun 20, 2016 8:48 AM
OT: Buying F-150 (by Roy [AL]) Jun 20, 2016 10:14 AM
OT: Buying F-150 (by razorback_tim [AR]) Jun 20, 2016 11:21 AM
OT: Buying F-150 (by Robert,Ontario,Can [ON]) Jun 20, 2016 11:52 AM
OT: Buying F-150 (by RR78 [VA]) Jun 20, 2016 12:18 PM
OT: Buying F-150 (by Wmh [NC]) Jun 20, 2016 12:54 PM
OT: Buying F-150 (by Roy [AL]) Jun 20, 2016 2:47 PM
OT: Buying F-150 (by plenty [MO]) Jun 20, 2016 3:20 PM
OT: Buying F-150 (by Roy [AL]) Jun 20, 2016 4:14 PM
OT: Buying F-150 (by Chris [CT]) Jun 20, 2016 6:27 PM
OT: Buying F-150 (by plenty [MO]) Jun 20, 2016 6:47 PM
OT: Buying F-150 (by Roy [AL]) Jun 20, 2016 6:58 PM
OT: Buying F-150 (by LiveTheDream [AZ]) Jun 20, 2016 11:41 PM
OT: Buying F-150 (by Vee [OH]) Jun 21, 2016 5:42 AM
OT: Buying F-150 (by Jay [CA]) Jun 21, 2016 9:20 AM
OT: Buying F-150 (by Roy [AL]) Jun 21, 2016 9:46 AM
OT: Buying F-150 (by Jay [CA]) Jun 21, 2016 2:55 PM
OT: Buying F-150 (by REID [KS]) Jun 21, 2016 11:51 PM
OT: Buying F-150 (by mike [CA]) Jun 23, 2016 2:04 PM
OT: Buying F-150 (by plenty [MO]) Jun 24, 2016 5:16 AM
OT: Buying F-150 (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 5:41 AM
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Today I am buying a 2003 Ford F-150 pick-up truck that has an Extended Cab and 6.5 ft. bed. This 13 year old truck, which has a 4.6 / Triton V-8, appears to be in mint condition and has only 83K miles on it. I am buying the truck from the original owner who only drove it to church on Sundays,...LOL.
Now, before I tell you what I am paying, I want you to tell me what you would pay for this truck. The owner's asking price was $7,800.00. Kelly Blue Book says $6,800.00 is the right price.
What would you pay? --68.62.xxx.xxx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 5:52 AM
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go look at it, sometimes they are alot nicer than you think and you may would pay a bit more or over blue book. Go look, sounds like a perfect work truck!! You'll look amazing driving around... and a good maintained work vehicle is a workhorse! You already wrote you are buying it today... so whatever it takes to get that done! Go Roy!!! If you love it, pay whatever it takes to bring it home! Sounds like a nice find. ANY COLOR works for me! --173.108.xxx.xxx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 6:05 AM
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Kelly Blue Book has been around since 1926. Are they still considered the Holy Grail source for used car values?
In the last 6 months, I have test driven numerous used pick-ups (think fixer-uppers) and most of them were junkers and would need additional major repairs. Like buying fixer-upper houses, occasionally you will find a 'diamond in the rough' and I think I found it with this 03' pick-up with low miles on it. Looks can be deceiving though. --68.62.xxx.xxx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by pattyk [MO]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 6:11 AM
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Kelly blue book is what we use in my area. --66.87.xx.xxx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by Mickie [OH]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 6:12 AM
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I'd probably go online to Edmunds and see what the true market value is and then go look at it. If a vehicle has maintenance records and been kept in immaculate condition and a Carfax doesn't turn up anything I'll negotiate it down as far as I can. --70.194.xxx.xxx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by LisaFL [FL]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 6:15 AM
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I'd ask him to split the difference with you and be sure to compliment him on how nicely he took care of it. --65.35.xx.xxx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by Homer [TX]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 6:28 AM
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Roy, I would offer this guy 4500 cash. This offer woud be shown to him, a big wad of cash talks. ( I carry protection also ) I would also have an extra 500 in my pocket in case he isn't excited about my 4500 offer. Right now you are doing something I love to do. Buying autos. At one point in my live I was a tote the note dealer. Now I just buy cars for my collection. I have a 2014 tundra that I drive daily, but am looking for another truck for a spare for 3-4K. Have fun with your offer! --96.226.xxx.x |
OT: Buying F-150 (by Jim in O C [CA]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 6:55 AM
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I sold my F-150 in 5 minutes after I put it on Craig's list. Nice Used trucks go at a premium. I used Kelly's and was probably $1000 to low. --108.89.xxx.xxx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 6:56 AM
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Homer,
One of these days, you and I need to get together and have a drink. Last year, I sat in a Indianapolis hotel bar and picked Brad20K's brain,..now you are next on my list. I hope you are for real and not just some obnoxious troll from Texas. :)
Now back to my question,...what is the most you would pay for this vehicle? $4,500 is just your 1st offer,...how high would you go?
In the last 6 months, I have made numerous low-ball offers on used pick-ups (junkers) and all were rejected without even a counter-offer. From this experience, I have realized that it is much easier for me to negotiate the selling price of a house than it is for a similar used auto. --68.62.xxx.xxx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by pattyk [MO]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 6:58 AM
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Used vehicle market is hot. No low ball. That would not be smart --66.87.xx.xxx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by Sisco [MO]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 7:06 AM
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If I were needing an old truck for myself I would pay KBB price. If I were buying it for the purpose of resale $5500 tops. --72.172.xxx.xx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by pete [OR]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 7:09 AM
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real cars for sale. cars.com --97.125.xx.xxx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by Homer [TX]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 7:14 AM
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Roy, I would love to have a Dr Pepper with you. You are my Alabama hero. That extra 500 cash I have tucked away in my pocket is my max, putting me at 5 k, It's all fun stuff you are getting into at this point, who blinks first. Make sure it's the seller, cash talks! --166.137.xxx.xx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by Pattyk [MO]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 7:19 AM
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Homer, it's a used vehicle, what else can a regular guy take? If tis at a dealer they want to finance your purchase so they get more money, if with individual cash is about all the options they have. ??? --66.87.xx.xxx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by James [NC]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 7:21 AM
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Roy,
Assuming he bought it in 2002, when you could first buy a 2003 model, that would mean his church is approximately 60 miles away, one way. Seems unlikely he only drove it to church on Sundays...
--192.175.xxx.xx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by Robert,Ontario,Can [ON]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 7:25 AM
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Is the vehicle certified. Here a vehicle must be certified to transfer ownership along with vehicle must pass a emission test. It is always prudent to have a mechanic do a inspection. Brakes, suspension along with other repairs can easily add up into the thousands. Check with the dealer. Here Ford will not supply a lot of parts on vehicles older then ten years. So one may have to go the wreckers for parts or after market parts. --74.220.xxx.xxx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by razorback_tim [AR]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 7:52 AM
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It would depend on how badly I needed a truck. If I needed one I would be willing to pay KBB private party value for the truck but would start $1000-1500 below that. If I didn't really have to have one and would only buy if I could steal it somewhere in that $4500-5000 price range would be where I'd like to be. I try to keep my capital outlay on vehicle ownership at 10 cents a mile or less. That's what I pay for the vehicle plus major repairs less what I sell it for. I don't include maintenance such as oil changes, tires, and tune-ups, and minor repairs such as starters, alternators, etc. --108.253.xxx.x |
OT: Buying F-150 (by Homer [TX]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 8:10 AM
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Patty, you asked what else can they take besides cash? Well, the seller could be asked to meet at the bank so the bank can issue a cashiers check and collect the title. I have sold hundreds of cars and you would be suprised at the number of people who try to use a personal check. One could also use a cashiers check, money order, bank wire, PayPal, trade for goods such as guns, etc. there are many options besides cash. That's why I said cash talks. I only get cash when I sell a car, that way it can go straight in the coffee can buried in the back yard. --166.137.xxx.xx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 8:30 AM
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Razorback,
For the last 6 months, I have been towing a 5x8 utility trailer behind my 2007 Expedition. What a major HASSLE it is to pull a small trailer to/from Lowes to haul 4x8 plywood and drywall. Have you ever tried to back-up a small utility trailer?
Yes, I really need a pick-up truck and I really wanted one with an 8 ft. bed but could only find used ones that had way too many miles on them. 8 ft. beds are almost extinct now, so I lowered my min. requirements and settled for a 6.5 bed in mint condition. (I can always drop the tailgate for 8 ft. lumber).
I have agreed to pay $7K for this truck. The seller is driving the truck to my house this afternoon. It seems like I pay more for vehicles than I do for houses. --68.62.xxx.xxx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by J [IN]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 8:43 AM
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I think that sounds fair. You will like having a truck. --70.194.xx.xxx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by Gail K [GA]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 8:47 AM
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My opinion is that you did fine with what you are paying for this truck.
I'm driving a 2002 Toyota Tacoma. NOT an extended cab with 88,000 miles on it and in "good" condition. A simple truck; no power windows, no power locks, etc.. The Blue Book value is a bit over 6K.
Gail --73.20.xxx.xxx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by razorback_tim [AR]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 8:48 AM
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With only 83K miles if it has been taken care of then you should have no problems getting your money's worth based on my simple formula. Vehicles built in the last 15 years should all go 200K+ if properly maintained. I have become a big believer in synthetic oil even for my old truck. I'm basing that on conversations I've had with several mechanics and a couple of machine shops. You might check into that for your new purchase. My truck is also a 6.5' bed. I have hauled 16' lumber in it multiple times using a receiver hitch bed extender. You can get them at harbor freight for 70 bucks. --108.253.xxx.x |
OT: Buying F-150 (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 10:14 AM
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Razorback,
Does your 200K mile number include the automatic transmission too? I doubt it,...rebuilding a transmission starts at about $1,800.00. A new crate trany is about $3,500.
Most of the used vehicles I test drove had at least $150K miles on them and they all needed some type of major repair done to them which I think is the reason they were for sale. I don't mind buying fixer-upper houses that need major repairs but with depreciating autos,...no way. --68.62.xxx.xxx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by razorback_tim [AR]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 11:21 AM
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Roy - my truck has 258K with original transmission. We have a Honda van with 228K with original transmission. So yes original transmissions can last over 200K miles. If it doesn't and you spend $1800 having it rebuilt then you just have to drive the truck another 18,000 miles. :) --108.253.xxx.x |
OT: Buying F-150 (by Robert,Ontario,Can [ON]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 11:52 AM
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Once a truck gets to that age it is recommended to change the anti freeze, transmission fluid, filters, differential along with all the heater hoses, Upper rad hose and fan belt. Found that using synthetic oil is a better option. Avoid buying cheaper oil filters as there is less material. Rust also has to be in check. Ford uses plastic stops in the bottom of door which prevents water from draining out. It is common for rust to build up at the bottom of doors. A removal of the rust along with rust paint minimizes rust build up. Also be careful about the oil viscosity in the engine. Newer engine use 5-20 and 5-30 viscosity. Some people have ruined a engine by using 10-30 as the oil has to pump up faster. --74.220.xxx.xx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by RR78 [VA]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 12:18 PM
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Sounds like you did ok.
Here there is always a hot market for good used trucks.
To find a good one in mint condition your concern is getting to it before it is sold. Then price second.
--73.40.xx.xx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by Wmh [NC]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 12:54 PM
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Roy sounds like a great deal.
The company my son works for has a fleet of F-150's. When they reach their fully depreciated value, they sell them to the employees for $1.00 rather than hassle with selling them on the open market. They are all worth thousands but it's too much time & effort, and would only complicate their taxes!
They are a bit cosmetically damaged (his seats were ripped) but fully maintained. He got one with (150? 180? k miles) for ONE DOLLAR! All it needed was tires. And some seat covers bought on Amazon.
Exteriors look great.
That was at least three years ago and it is still going strong. --173.22.xx.xx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 2:47 PM
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WMH,
I was looking for a 'work truck' too since 8ft. beds were standard equipment on them. My small town has 2 major auto dealers, Ford and Chevrolet. I went to both in search of a new or used 'work truck' and neither dealer had anything close to what I was looking for. One dealer was honest with me and said there was not much profit in selling plain jane work trucks which have no bells and whistles on them!
Plus, those type trucks are normally ordered from the factory in fleet sales. --68.62.xxx.xxx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 3:20 PM
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Welll,,,, inquisitive minds want to know. Did you buy the truck! !!???? --66.87.xx.xxx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 4:14 PM
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Plently,
Yes, I bought the truck. The sellers (man/wife) drove the truck to my house and signed the Title over to me and I gave them a cashiers check. 10 minutes max.
No attorneys, no appraisers, no bankers, no inspectors, no RE brokers/agents, and no stacks of legal jargon paperwork,...why can't buying a used 50 year old house be this simple!!! Please,..someone tell me why. --68.62.xxx.xxx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by Chris [CT]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 6:27 PM
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The used truck market around here is insane.
If that is the newer body style F150, clean, with 4wd around here it would be a $10k-$12k truck.
--67.82.xxx.xx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 6:47 PM
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Awesome! ! Sweet. What color ? Where will you go first, lunch ?? --66.87.xx.xx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 6:58 PM
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Plenty,
Exterior color is Hunter Green /Interior is Tan/Mocha
My first place to go is the County Dump (Tuesday). One reason I need a truck is to take a tenant's discarded junk to the county landfill. --68.62.xxx.xxx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by LiveTheDream [AZ]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2016 11:41 PM
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Well, I'm a bit late so I'll just say "congratulations" Roy. :-)
I think you did fine. You didn't waste weeks of your life trying to find the perfect deal. Drive it a couple of years keeping your eye out of the "perfect" truck and flip this one at that time.
Then there was the pretty F-250 4x4 out in front of the dealers. Lift kit, big tires. The perfect girls truck. I had to look. $71,000, plus tax and license!!!
Guess I'll be renting the rest of my life. --24.121.xx.xxx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Jun 21, 2016 5:42 AM
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I am late also, the triton was the worst from 1997 to about 2003 so hopefully you have one you can remove spark plugs from without replacing the cyl heads, I had 3 vans with triton power and they all went to the boneyard looking fantastic needing big bux motor work - before the teenagers could kill the transmission, the dodge did burnouts near the electrical warehouse downtown - a friend took a photo of the smokey intersection 2 blocks away when I sent the boys to pickup materials, that one went all along the east coast early 2000's... --76.188.xxx.xxx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by Jay [CA]) Posted on: Jun 21, 2016 9:20 AM
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KBB has 3 different prices; Trade-In/wholesale, Private Party, and Retail. Which price are you looking at? Personally, I would offer a price somewhere between trade-in and private party values.
OTOH, I sold my 1998 F150 in less than 24 hours. I had 3 buyers calling me within 12 hours of listing it. This was back in 2008. You may need to forget KBB and look at what they are actually selling for in your area. If this is the best truck in a very limited supply, someone will pay his price.
BTW, my current truck is a 2007 F150 SuperCrew with the 4.6. I love it and plan on driving it until the wheels fall off. It has 104K miles on it and feels like a new truck.
Good luck.
--65.160.xx.x |
OT: Buying F-150 (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Jun 21, 2016 9:46 AM
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Jay,
Thanks for the information. This is a done deal now and I am stuck with what I bought. I think I could re-sell (flip) this truck for $9K (KBB dealer retail price) if I wanted to,...it is in mint condition without a scratch on it.
Vee- This truck came with maintenance records in glove compartment. The spark plugs were changed out at 50K miles and they still seem to work just fine. --68.62.xxx.xxx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by Jay [CA]) Posted on: Jun 21, 2016 2:55 PM
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Vee, the spark plug problem affected the 5.4L. I never had any issues with my 1998 4.6 or my 2007 4.6.
Bottom Line: The longer stroke of the 5.4 required shallower cylinder heads. This left the spark plug holes with fewer threads. The plugs would occasionally launch. This required a Helicoil type fix to repair the hole. Dealers were charging $400 to $500 per hole for the repair.
My good friend owns an automotive machine shop and has owned several Ford trucks. He found a better repair kit than Ford and was charging about half of what the dealer charged.
The OEM plugs are rated to go 100K miles. When removing them, it is possible to break them. They are often screwed in very tight. The best way to do this is to shoot penetrating oil down each hole and let sit overnight. Use plenty of oil, it is cheap.
--65.160.xx.x |
OT: Buying F-150 (by REID [KS]) Posted on: Jun 21, 2016 11:51 PM
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start offers low maybe lowwer than BB low price m you can always go up . I 've seen people take significantly less when presented payment in Cash, $100 dollar bills (LOL) or course i KNOW THERE ARE PLACES WHERE YOU CAN GET SHOT OVER A PAIR OF TENNIS SHOES. BTW SOUNDS LIKE A PRETTY NICE TRUCK. --104.56.x.xxx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by mike [CA]) Posted on: Jun 23, 2016 2:04 PM
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DON'T BUY IT. get a truck with an 8 foot bed. and a lumber rack.
i have an f150 short bed (7 ft), half ton and it's a solid runner but sometimes NOT up to the task. --75.80.xx.xxx |
OT: Buying F-150 (by plenty [MO]) Posted on: Jun 24, 2016 5:16 AM
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Sing with me now..., "Ray loves his truck, it's parked right outside. ..."
Enjoy ! You did well !!! --66.87.xx.xxx |
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