Tenant vs Tenant (by Linda Lou [NJ]) Aug 16, 2015 9:28 PM
Tenant vs Tenant (by AllyM [NJ]) Aug 16, 2015 9:57 PM
Tenant vs Tenant (by Linda Lou [NJ]) Aug 16, 2015 10:23 PM
Tenant vs Tenant (by Nicole [PA]) Aug 17, 2015 5:17 AM
Tenant vs Tenant (by Vee [OH]) Aug 17, 2015 6:22 AM
Tenant vs Tenant (by Jane B. [MA]) Aug 17, 2015 7:21 AM
Tenant vs Tenant (by Linda [NJ]) Aug 17, 2015 7:59 AM
Tenant vs Tenant (by Linda [NJ]) Aug 17, 2015 8:01 AM
Tenant vs Tenant (by Linda [NJ]) Aug 17, 2015 8:02 AM
Tenant vs Tenant (by Deanna [TX]) Aug 17, 2015 8:22 AM
Tenant vs Tenant (by Dan [MA]) Aug 17, 2015 12:08 PM
Tenant vs Tenant (by Linda Lou [NJ]) Aug 17, 2015 12:42 PM
Tenant vs Tenant (by cjo'h [CT]) Aug 17, 2015 1:31 PM
Tenant vs Tenant (by cjo'h [CT]) Aug 17, 2015 1:48 PM
Tenant vs Tenant (by Linda Lou [NJ]) Aug 17, 2015 2:55 PM
Tenant vs Tenant (by allin [VA]) Aug 17, 2015 4:23 PM
Tenant vs Tenant (by AllyM [NJ]) Aug 17, 2015 7:04 PM
Tenant vs Tenant (by Nicole [PA]) Aug 18, 2015 5:21 AM
Tenant vs Tenant (by LindaLou [NJ]) Aug 18, 2015 6:36 PM
Tenant vs Tenant (by Linda Lou [NJ]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2015 9:28 PM Message:
State Specific Question About: NEW JERSEY (NJ)
I have a two family home. One the tenant that lives upstairs for about 11 years and another that just moved in the beginning of August. The lady upstairs made the woman that lived downstairs moveout because the lady upstairs thinks she owns the house. Now she is doing it to the people downstairs. Whether it's noise from the kids, parking, sharing the basement and sharing the yard. What do I do? I try to accommodate both parties but now it's getting ridiculous. How do I both people happy? --71.127.xxx.xxx |
Tenant vs Tenant (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2015 9:57 PM Message:
That's a bad one. You have to let upstairs know that she has to share. One thing I did was to divide a back yard with a chain link fence when downstairs let her dog out back there all the time. You can put up a schedule in the laundry area with a big chart. Give them designated parking spaces. The bad tenant is costing you too much money to let this continue. You may need to get rid of her actually. Add up the money you lost on moveouts.
Send her a cease and desist notice. See what clause in your lease you could use to do that. There must be something, maybe even the "quiet enjoyment" clause. I wonder if she realizes that her footsteps are annoying to downstairs people just as their noise is annoying to her. Make sure you have carpeting on both floors. Nothing causes problems more than sounds echoing from lack of carpeting.
Good luck. --73.33.xxx.xxx |
Tenant vs Tenant (by Linda Lou [NJ]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2015 10:23 PM Message:
Thanks AllyM for the good advice. I just may try to divide up the yard. And discuss the other causes with her. She asked me to call her tomorrow or to go over there. I'm afraid to check my phone to see her too lol. --71.127.xxx.xxx |
Tenant vs Tenant (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2015 5:17 AM Message:
"sharing" between strangers will not work - especially when one of them is set in her ways after 11 years. --72.70.xxx.xxx |
Tenant vs Tenant (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2015 6:22 AM Message:
You could tell the up person -we are raising your rent- to cover the cost of the lower unit until you are happy with your neighbor, the unspoken rule is you have to love your neighbor and fellow man. But if the dispute runs on and on, send a non-renewal to the up people and call (even with a ghost) to find out if you could show theup place to a prospective tenant, sometimes a church friend or distant family could help you with this... --75.94.xxx.xxx |
Tenant vs Tenant (by Jane B. [MA]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2015 7:21 AM Message:
In our stacked on top of each other two family we did move upstairs after our kids moved out. It was too noisy downstairs. We don't have wall to wall carpeting, but have a ton of rugs. Old wood floors creak, though, as quiet as we try to be.
We use a portable dog fence (an x-pen) to divide the small back yard so that our dogs don't poop on our tenant's side, or try to go into her unit. It's worked out well. The landscapers can fold it back and cut the grass.
The basement is divided for each unit, but we have access to each other's holiday ornaments, and electrical boxes.
I think by using some two by fours and hardware cloth, you could build individual storage spaces in the basement. I'd also add plumbing for TWO washer and dryers. Let them supply their own.
(We moved stackable into each apartment, it cost a fortune, but it was worth it for us.)
--100.0.xx.xxx |
Tenant vs Tenant (by Linda [NJ]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2015 7:59 AM Message:
The plumbing was separated many years ago. The hardwood floors are brand new and I believe they have a oriental rug. Now the main problem that they are facing is the parking and the upstairs claimed to me that the lady down thinks it's her driveway cause she pays more rent. So, what I did was I called up my realtor and we are going over the to discuss the parking tomorrow early evening. Ugh....why can't everyone get along lol. --71.127.xxx.xxx |
Tenant vs Tenant (by Linda [NJ]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2015 8:01 AM Message:
If the backyard will be a problem I will try to use dog fences as a divider. Thanks for the advices everyone! --71.127.xxx.xxx |
Tenant vs Tenant (by Linda [NJ]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2015 8:02 AM Message:
If the backyard will be a problem I will try to use dog fences as a divider. Thanks for the advices everyone! --71.127.xxx.xxx |
Tenant vs Tenant (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2015 8:22 AM Message:
I have a house with a garage apartment that we picked up last spring. The garage apartment was easy to get ready quickly, and I moved someone from a more expensive sfh into the garage apartment last July. We didn't start work on the main house until around January this year, and it took about 6 months before it was move-in ready.
Parking is in front of the garage apartment. There are three spaces. We tore down the old carport roof last fall, and finally got it re-roofed maybe a week or two before the new people moved in.
Mr. Garage Apartment has done nothing but whine about the covered parking space being used by the people living in the main house. It's first-come first-serve. He's territorial because he's lived in the apartment like it was a sfh for a year--- and he's cranky that he has to share. I tried the reasoning thing-- "You say you haven't parked there in three weeks, but I saw both you and your guest parking there within the last week--" but it doesn't work. He wants to be mad.
This isn't something that will be fixed by a fence. You can't make both people happy, because both people don't want to be happy. One person is living in a multi and wanting to live in a sfh. You have to decide whether her 11-year stability is worth her driving off your lower tenants. Reasoning doesn't work because the issue is irrational. --64.72.xx.xxx |
Tenant vs Tenant (by Dan [MA]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2015 12:08 PM Message:
What's your Realtor have to do with the situation? --50.169.xx.xx |
Tenant vs Tenant (by Linda Lou [NJ]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2015 12:42 PM Message:
I have an appointment with my realtor tomorrow to go over to the house to discuss this situation. The lady downstairs will try to see if her realtor is available tomorrow so we can all discuss this with the lady upstairs lIke civilized adults. --70.208.xx.xxx |
Tenant vs Tenant (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2015 1:31 PM Message:
Linda Lou, you have a major problem on your hands,and no matter what you do,you can't make everyone happy , so don't even try. I don't give anyone storage space in the basement anymore at the beginning I did ,divided it up so everyone had their own compartment and a locked door.Tenants would leave and also leave their treasured possessions behind in the storage area.Had to take the dump truck and have someone help to get all the trash to the dump. So never again. Storage,what you see in the apartment is what you get,nothing else. As far as your upstairs tenant is concerned .She may be there too long and in the back of her mind she thinks she owns the place,you may have to ask her to move, so that the tenants take up residency at the same time. And you have to charge the same rent for each unit , sound travels so you have to explain that in detail to each tenant at move in,just like in kindergarten.As part of your phone system,you have to have an answering machine. All calls go on answering machine unless you recognize the number. This lady is costing you too much,both in money and agrivation even though she is paying on time and all that other good stuff. Charlie...................................
--70.215.xx.xx |
Tenant vs Tenant (by cjo'h [CT]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2015 1:48 PM Message:
When We bought our first house we Lived on the first floor
The lady on the second floor,about Five foot tall and weighed about eighty pounds,when she walked across her floor, sounded like s two ton elephant,that's how sound travels. Charlie ............................. --70.215.xx.xx |
Tenant vs Tenant (by Linda Lou [NJ]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2015 2:55 PM Message:
Thanks Charlie! --70.208.xx.xxx |
Tenant vs Tenant (by allin [VA]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2015 4:23 PM Message:
She has already cost you a vacancy. End her lease. I have had this situation and I actually got rid of both. One was moving out because of the upstairs person so the upstairs person left soon after. Everything cleaned up and new people. Its better now. Once the slate is clean you can put in some new rules. For me the rules were no pets or smoking (smells carry), no shed storage, everybody is mtm and no designated parking. I also put in some carpet upstairs. MTM is so it will not drag on as long as the first round because I was waiting for a one year lease to end.
--192.94.xx.xx |
Tenant vs Tenant (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2015 7:04 PM Message:
Have a coin toss for the driveway. It becomes assigned parking space and any infraction gets a cease and desist notice. --73.33.xxx.xxx |
Tenant vs Tenant (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Aug 18, 2015 5:21 AM Message:
I am in the dark here ... what in the world do you think two realtors are going to do? Didn't you provide guidance as to who parks where when they moved in? If not, since it's become a problem, decide what you think is fair and tell them that's the way it is. Again, realtors? The tenant has their own realtor representative/negotiator /mediator? --72.70.xxx.xxx |
Tenant vs Tenant (by LindaLou [NJ]) Posted on: Aug 18, 2015 6:36 PM Message:
I had my little meeting with my Realtor and the new tenants from downstairs had hers. I layed down the laws and what is expected. I made sure both parties exchanged numbers so they can communicate with one another if needed. Both Realtors said I did a good job and said I did the right thing. So I hope to God this will be it. I had the Realtors there just to have as proof of witness. Thanks everyone. Keep your fingers crossed! --71.127.xxx.xxx |
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