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AUTOMATIC DEFAULT (by GKARL [PA]) Aug 15, 2014 1:31 PM
       AUTOMATIC DEFAULT (by GKARL [PA]) Aug 15, 2014 1:40 PM
       AUTOMATIC DEFAULT (by Pattyk [MO]) Aug 15, 2014 4:50 PM
       AUTOMATIC DEFAULT (by Vee [OH]) Aug 15, 2014 7:13 PM
       AUTOMATIC DEFAULT (by Nicole [PA]) Aug 15, 2014 7:40 PM
       AUTOMATIC DEFAULT (by GKARL [PA]) Aug 16, 2014 5:15 AM
       AUTOMATIC DEFAULT (by GKARL [PA]) Aug 16, 2014 5:18 AM
       AUTOMATIC DEFAULT (by Jon S [PA]) Aug 16, 2014 11:15 AM
       AUTOMATIC DEFAULT (by GKARL [PA]) Aug 16, 2014 4:46 PM
       AUTOMATIC DEFAULT (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Aug 16, 2014 11:26 PM
       AUTOMATIC DEFAULT (by Nicole [PA]) Aug 17, 2014 6:02 AM
       AUTOMATIC DEFAULT (by GKARL [PA]) Aug 17, 2014 6:09 PM
       AUTOMATIC DEFAULT (by GKARL [PA]) Aug 17, 2014 6:15 PM


AUTOMATIC DEFAULT (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Aug 15, 2014 1:31 PM
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State Specific Question About: PENNSYLVANIA (PA)

I have a m2m lease with a tenant against which I'm seeking eviction. The tenant requested a continuance on the hearing as a delaying tactic (hearing was scheduled for the 19th and now it's on the 26th). My lease provides for automatic termination in the event of default and I want to get the tenant out rather than give him a chance to pay. The tenant is seeking to stay in the apartment through Oct 1 with a series of continuances while I want him out in September. What are my chances are just being awarded possession? Will I be forced to let him redeem himself and accept money? --64.121.xxx.xxx




AUTOMATIC DEFAULT (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Aug 15, 2014 1:40 PM
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BTW, this is my 3rd action against this tenant --64.121.xxx.xxx




AUTOMATIC DEFAULT (by Pattyk [MO]) Posted on: Aug 15, 2014 4:50 PM
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i doubt if your lease trumps the court's process. I'm not from PA so perhaps I'm wrong. I would just go thru the process as it proceeds and accept it as it rolls. Someone from PA will come along with more information. --173.119.xx.xxx




AUTOMATIC DEFAULT (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Aug 15, 2014 7:13 PM
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Look up your tenant court actions and file a motion to deny extension as the simple unpaid rent case, do you have a waiver of jury trial provision in PA? --75.94.xxx.xxx




AUTOMATIC DEFAULT (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Aug 15, 2014 7:40 PM
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I'm kind of confused ... I have no idea what an "automatic termination" is and I doubt it's legal ... but again, don't know what you mean by that.

If you go to court on the 26th, you can file for possession on Sept. 8th. Get there at 8:30 a.m. and file. If your constable is like mine he'll post the property the same day. You can have the guy out by the 18th.

I've never had a tenant request an extension and didn't know it was even possible. I thought, and I think I'm right, that the hearing MUST be held within 7 to 15 days of you filing the complaint.

Vee, we don't have jury trials - the magistrate in your jurisdiction hears the case. --174.55.xxx.xxx




AUTOMATIC DEFAULT (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2014 5:15 AM
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Nicole--you're right the hearing must be held with 7-15 days of filing. I filed on the 12th and they scheduled originally for the 19th, the tenant asked for a continuance because they "weren't ready" and that pushed it out to the 26th. Still within the 15 days---and no, I didn't know a tenant could do this either. It's purely a delaying tactic.

I spoke to an attorney yesterday and was told that it's likely that I'll get possession as long as I tell the judge that's where I want to go given the on going problems with this tenant. --207.172.xx.x




AUTOMATIC DEFAULT (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2014 5:18 AM
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As to automatic termination, my lease say that non-payment is a default condition resulting in automatic termination of the lease. --207.172.xx.x




AUTOMATIC DEFAULT (by Jon S [PA]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2014 11:15 AM
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GKarl,

What did you file for? Unpaid rent? If so, they will have an opportunity to pay you to stay.

If it is a M2M lease then you want to simply file for possession. Being a month to month lease they have no cause to stay and the judge would award you possession.

Jon

--67.172.xx.xx




AUTOMATIC DEFAULT (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2014 4:46 PM
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John:

I filed for the unpaid rent, damages to the apartment (will probably be told to satisfy from the security) and holdover. The holdover is based on the presumption that the automatic termination clause in the lease due to default holds up.

Hopefully, what the attorney says will hold out. When I was in court before with this tenant, the magistrate did in fact ask what I wanted to do and we're going before the same one, so hopefully, I'll get possession. --207.172.xx.x




AUTOMATIC DEFAULT (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Aug 16, 2014 11:26 PM
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GKARL,

I do not know if this applies to your state or your court system, but my judge says the LL does not have to accept rent which can delay some eviction processes.

This is a perfect situation where your local assoc can help. We outsiders might just confuse you. You need LOCAL advice about YOUR judge/magistrate.

Me? I'd ask a good eviction atty for advice (he/she will spout RULES) AND talk to a few local LLs about this goes down in the real world.

Please, next time, go thru with round one!

(we know because we've all done the same thing - believed the res)

-Brad --67.175.xx.xxx




AUTOMATIC DEFAULT (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2014 6:02 AM
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Have you fixed the damages? If not, you can't collect for them yet.

John is correct, if they pay and that's the only box you checked, they get to stay.

Again, your "automatic default" has me confused and I'm betting it won't fly but I guess it depends on how it's worded. My lease says that if they are late I believe 3 times in a calendar year that I can file.

Going forward, ALWAYS, get some lease violations on that complaint form. If your original intent is only to get your $$$ and things go really sour once you've filed, you're able to get them out. If not, as you see, you've got to go back in.

Here is my main concern ... your comment "hopefully what the attorney says will hold out". Perhaps it's just my magistrates but I have NEVER seen a tenant win, get a continuance, nothing. If you do your paperwork correctly, you will win each and every time.

Also, what does "I spoke w/an attorney mean"? If this is an iffy situation, and I'd say it is, why didn't you hire him rather than just speak to him? --174.55.xxx.xxx




AUTOMATIC DEFAULT (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2014 6:09 PM
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Nicole, just posted a response lost it. Here's a quick summary:

1) Here's the lease language: "The tenant’s failure to pay the rent when due will result in a default of this lease and it shall immediately terminate. Tenant waives Notice to Quit otherwise required by law and landlord will require that tenant vacate the premises immediately."

Basically, non payment defaults the lease.

2) I checked the boxes for rent, damages and lease term having ended due to (1) above. I did not check the forfeiture box which would be more appropriate for (1) above. Can one amend complaints?

3)The damages are due to the tenant's negligence. The magistrate instructed them to repair, which they've not done. I have a repair estimate. I'll probably be told to deduct from the security.

4) This is the second hearing before this magistrate with this tenant. She asked me what I wanted to do last time--work it out or possession. I will ask for possession. The attorney indicated that this would be the situation this go around as well. I don't feel particularly "iffy" about this to the extent of needing an attorney as I don't think the tenant has a leg to stand on. As to him getting a continuance, I suspect they know one of those clerks in the magistrates office or someone is advising them how to delay. I feel confident that I'll wind up with possession. --207.172.xx.x




AUTOMATIC DEFAULT (by GKARL [PA]) Posted on: Aug 17, 2014 6:15 PM
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From Brad>>>Please, next time, go thru with round one!<<<

Absolutely. This is what I should have done. This will be a one-time error only. --207.172.xx.x





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