DWI's (by April [TX]) Jul 20, 2014 2:17 PM
DWI's (by Gruvin [TX]) Jul 20, 2014 3:20 PM
DWI's (by April [TX]) Jul 20, 2014 3:24 PM
DWI's (by GA [GA]) Jul 20, 2014 3:46 PM
DWI's (by JR [ME]) Jul 20, 2014 3:56 PM
DWI's (by RR [WA]) Jul 20, 2014 4:35 PM
DWI's (by April [TX]) Jul 20, 2014 5:47 PM
DWI's (by Don [PA]) Jul 20, 2014 6:07 PM
DWI's (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jul 20, 2014 6:50 PM
DWI's (by ALDO [WI]) Jul 20, 2014 7:02 PM
DWI's (by John [NJ]) Jul 20, 2014 7:37 PM
DWI's (by thetileguy [TX]) Jul 21, 2014 9:25 AM
DWI's (by J [FL]) Jul 21, 2014 10:04 AM
DWI's (by April [TX]) Jul 21, 2014 10:15 AM
DWI's (by Robert Phaedra [NY]) Jul 21, 2014 11:15 AM
DWI's (by don [PA]) Jul 21, 2014 7:04 PM
DWI's (by GA [GA]) Jul 21, 2014 7:28 PM
DWI's (by Robert Phaedra [NY]) Jul 22, 2014 6:18 AM
DWI's (by Nancy [IN]) Jul 22, 2014 2:44 PM
DWI's (by thetileguy [TX]) Jul 24, 2014 5:37 AM
DWI's (by April [TX]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2014 2:17 PM Message:
I know we can deny based on a conviction however what is the consensus regarding DWI's, more specifically, more than one? Do you bother with pulling credit or deny at sight of the DWI?
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DWI's (by Gruvin [TX]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2014 3:20 PM Message:
I would complete my standard screening process but the DWI conviction can be used as a denial. If it was an old DWI and only a single time then I would consider it but a multiple offender is a no. This person has a problem that you don't want to be a part of... --99.126.xx.xxx |
DWI's (by April [TX]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2014 3:24 PM Message:
Repeat offender (first in 2007, 2nd in 2012); however, she states the 2nd was granted an expunction.
I just don't want to have a house with a tenant who gets arrested (again) and can't pay the rent because they're in jail. If it she was married or had a BF (who met qualifications) then it'd be another story. At least I'd have the spouse/BF to go after for rent. --172.10.xx.xxx |
DWI's (by GA [GA]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2014 3:46 PM Message:
I am not sure you can legally deny based on charges that were expunged.
You can deny based on conviction. Perhaps your criteria state no convictions for anything other than minor traffic offenses within the last 10 years? --74.190.xxx.xxx |
DWI's (by JR [ME]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2014 3:56 PM Message:
Anyone with two DWIs in the last ten years has a drinking problem, whether they realize it or not. Active alcoholics make poor tenants. Unless they made a big show of how they have quit, go to AA daily, etc, I would pass. --24.31.xxx.xx |
DWI's (by RR [WA]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2014 4:35 PM Message:
also, may affect their ability to drive a car, and get to their job, etc. Often this can lead to more charges later such as "driving with license suspended". It can snowball.
Bottom line, take the best people you can get at your price range and quality level. Only you can know the answer to this, by gauging the people that reply to your advertising.
Set your criteria high enough that you will need to consider these non-qualified people on a "case by case" basis.
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DWI's (by April [TX]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2014 5:47 PM Message:
My criteria is pretty picky already. I require 3x monthly rent on my units (which are furnished and I pay utilities). She qualifies financially very easily (makes almost 5x).
My gut says 2 arrests, 1 conviction for DWI in <5yrs is a major red flag especially when their job is on the road a lot. --107.77.xx.xx |
DWI's (by Don [PA]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2014 6:07 PM Message:
With the reduced blood alcohol levels that MADD was able to force on the states, I would not consider someone with two duis in ten years to necessarily be an alcoholic. However, alky or not, in many states a third DUI means substantial jail time. Of course, if someone is doing a month in jail, they are not going to be paying you rent.
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DWI's (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2014 6:50 PM Message:
My old roofer had 9 DUIs before they put him in jail for 90 days.
Talked to a cop who said they figure 20% of the people on the road have significant alcohol levels. YIKES!!!
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DWI's (by ALDO [WI]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2014 7:02 PM Message:
Check with an attorney or a seasoned local landlord about this. Some states will only permit rejecting applicants with felony convictions and DWI in many states is a misdemeanor. --70.92.xxx.xxx |
DWI's (by John [NJ]) Posted on: Jul 20, 2014 7:37 PM Message:
I would not really worry about jail too much. I would be worried about the tenant not being able to get to work if she gets another DWI. I currently have a tenant that lost his license for DWI. His choice of work is limited because of the lack of transportation.
Also, if the applicant is an alcoholic which is sounds like, be worried about the issues that can happen when she is home and drunk all the time. My tenant is a big time alcoholic. He does not fight when drunk, but gets very stupid then blackout. He already started one minor fire by cooking eggs when drunk, left the kitchen with the eggs on the stove an passed out in his bedroom. Luckily all he interconnected smoke detectors sounded off and the stove fire was put out by the other tenant. the drunk tenant never woke up when the SD's sounded off.
I don't think I'd ever take another drunk as a tenant. Too many liabilities.
John
New Jersey --67.85.xx.xxx |
DWI's (by thetileguy [TX]) Posted on: Jul 21, 2014 9:25 AM Message:
Brad, I'd bet that number is closer to 50% after 10. Somehow most still get where they're going without incident.
Here in Texas it doesn't take more than a few drinks to be over the limit. Driving over the limit and driving so drunk your causing an accident are twod different things. No refusal here so if you dont want to blow they take your blood. Its all about the money. Local government needs more money.
Spent a couple weeks in Colorado last year. We drove. Only seen 1or 2 police the whole time. Seen at least 10 driving thru Texas.
9 Dwi's and I would be concerned. I wouldn't deny for two in Texas. I know a landlord that farms one of my areas with two DWI'S. --172.56.xx.xxx |
DWI's (by J [FL]) Posted on: Jul 21, 2014 10:04 AM Message:
For what it's worth I have two tenants (at different units) each with one misdemeanor DUI, and I haven't had any problems with these people. --66.87.xxx.xx |
DWI's (by April [TX]) Posted on: Jul 21, 2014 10:15 AM Message:
I've decided to do the not-denied/not-approved route with this one. Lack of previous rental/residential history (only provided current info for which she's been there 6mo). I'm going to say at this time there isn't sufficient rental history and we are considering other applicants but this application may be reconsidered. --172.10.xx.xxx |
DWI's (by Robert Phaedra [NY]) Posted on: Jul 21, 2014 11:15 AM Message:
I wouldn't deny based solely on that. Nine? That person absolutely has a problem. However two in ten years? A 120 lb. woman can be over the limit after two drinks. I do not in any way condone drinking and driving, but I do know that MOST people who get a DWI are NOT your typical falling-down-drunks. They often get busted after enjoying a couple of drinks with dinner. They are very unlikely to be alcoholics. It's all a money grab under the guise of protecting citizens. --134.179.xxx.xxx |
DWI's (by don [PA]) Posted on: Jul 21, 2014 7:04 PM Message:
Yes. MADD is never satisfied and will continually advocate ever more severe laws. I read that MADD leadership was actually dominated now by insurance companies, who love the rates they charge to those with DUIs. MADD lobbied every state legislature to lower the blood alcohol limit from .10 to .08. Some did (like NJ), some did not (like Penna.) MADD then got the fed. gov't to threaten to take away all highway funds from states that did not go to .08. So now every state has .08.
Now, I see ads that say "Buzzed driving is drunk driving." This makes me think that they will be starting a campaign to further lower the BACs. --70.215.xx.xx |
DWI's (by GA [GA]) Posted on: Jul 21, 2014 7:28 PM Message:
Not to start any flame war, but I am appalled by the comments. Driving is a privilege. You are piloting a several thousand pound object at high speeds past people. You need your wits about you and alcohol (or other substances or texting) diminish your reflexes. Nobody has any business drinking & driving. --74.190.xxx.xxx |
DWI's (by Robert Phaedra [NY]) Posted on: Jul 22, 2014 6:18 AM Message:
GA I don't think anyone here is condoning drinking and driving. I certainly am not. What I (and I think others) am trying to get across is that people tend to jump to conclusions when they hear someone has gotten a DWI. They tend to think of someone so drunk they can't stand up, they must be an alcoholic, and that they most certainly would have killed someone if not having been caught. None of these stereotypes are typical. Most people who get DWIs, although over the legal BAC, are NOT stumbling alcoholics. They are average people who had a drink or two and then drove. Again, I am not condoning drinking and driving. I am merely trying to make people understand that if you get a DWI that doesn't mean you are a hopeless drunk. --134.179.xxx.xxx |
DWI's (by Nancy [IN]) Posted on: Jul 22, 2014 2:44 PM Message:
Two DUI's is a pattern. I would not take that person.
However, today, instead of being a character defect or lust of the flesh, as we knew it to be in my childhood, alcoholism is now a "disease". You need to be careful not to run afoul of anti-discrimination laws on the basis of handicap.
I'm sure anyone who regularly drinks and drives has some other evidence of irresponsibility on his record. Find it. --50.129.x.xxx |
DWI's (by thetileguy [TX]) Posted on: Jul 24, 2014 5:37 AM Message:
I guess none of you have been guilty of drowsy driving either. --172.56.xx.xxx |
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