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Check Memo Line (by Phyllis [OH]) Jul 9, 2014 9:58 AM
       Check Memo Line (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jul 9, 2014 10:18 AM
       Check Memo Line (by Suzanne [NV]) Jul 9, 2014 10:30 AM
       Check Memo Line (by John... [MI]) Jul 9, 2014 12:38 PM
       Check Memo Line (by Robert J [CA]) Jul 9, 2014 1:15 PM
       Check Memo Line (by John... [MI]) Jul 9, 2014 3:44 PM
       Check Memo Line (by James [MO]) Jul 9, 2014 6:20 PM
       Check Memo Line (by Suzanne [NV]) Jul 9, 2014 6:30 PM
       Check Memo Line (by Vee [OH]) Jul 10, 2014 4:09 AM
       Check Memo Line (by CTLL [CT]) Jul 10, 2014 5:43 AM
       Check Memo Line (by Patti [OK]) Jul 10, 2014 7:25 AM
       Check Memo Line (by Nicole [PA]) Jul 10, 2014 11:11 AM
       Check Memo Line (by Chris [CA]) Jul 10, 2014 2:38 PM


Check Memo Line (by Phyllis [OH]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2014 9:58 AM
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State Specific Question About: OHIO (OH)

I sent an itemized list to a resident explaining why a portion of his deposit was not being returned. The memo line on the check said "to pay deposit in full". He cashed the check but says he is hiring a lawyer and taking us to court to have his deposit returned. Does the fact that he cashed the check saying "to pay the deposit in full" prevent the dispute from legally continuing? --162.228.xx.xx




Check Memo Line (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2014 10:18 AM
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General answer: Depends on the judge.

I recently won a court case because I wrote FINAL on the memo line.

I also stamp the back of the check with legaleez that says "cashing this means you accepted payment in full".

--67.175.xx.xxx




Check Memo Line (by Suzanne [NV]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2014 10:30 AM
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Check your state, however, tenant can cash check and still dispute the amount. --72.193.xx.xxx




Check Memo Line (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2014 12:38 PM
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Indeed -- in most states, this means nothing really. (I'd love to see the court case where that worked for Brad -- unless Indiana has some very odd law, writing "FINAL" on a check certainly would NOT make it indisputable.)

We've discussed this before. See this thread:

bbs2.mrlandlord.com/display.php?id=14076503

The main point of it has to do with doing something in "bad faith." Unless the amounts have already been agreed to, then writing "paid in full" might easily be considered a "bad faith" move by the check writer and, therefore, would make it meaningless.

Note that if you RECEIVE a check like this then, to be safe if you want to cash it and still protest, then you should write something like this on the back:

"This check is deposited under protest, without prejudice, and with preservation of all rights of the payee against the drawer of this check pursuant to UCC § 1-207."

But that only applies in SOME states -- and even state laws seem to conflict on it.

The short of the matter is this: Writing "to pay deposit in full" likely does NOT exclude him from getting a lawyer and suing you anyhow. People can sue for anything.

That being said, most WON'T. How much are we talking here that they didn't get back and do you have good documentation for it? If so, then the most likely thing is that they will do nothing at all. Every ex-tenant threatens to sue. Most don't. :)

- John...

--216.111.xxx.xx




Check Memo Line (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2014 1:15 PM
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I write on the back of the check:

"Acceptance of this check constitutes full

and final refund of tenants deposit".

FOR DEPOSIT ONLY -- SIGNATURE REQUIRED

--98.119.x.xxx




Check Memo Line (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2014 3:44 PM
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You can write that all you want, as I said -- it doesn't make a difference in most cases because a decent attorney would argue that a check over a disputed amount had that written in "bad faith."

It may work in front of some judges, sure. Feel free to do it. But the law may not be with you if someone really pushed it to a court that wasn't your local-yocal magistrate...

- John...

--216.111.xxx.xx




Check Memo Line (by James [MO]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2014 6:20 PM
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John, I agree with you. I find the statement "to pay the deposit in full" poorly worded even if it had an effect on the instrument, which is unlikely. --65.27.xx.xxx




Check Memo Line (by Suzanne [NV]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2014 6:30 PM
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On the other hand, the tenant could execute the check as "signed under protest" it probably won't make a difference either, they are still cashing the check for the amount written, it doesn't mean they agree or disagree with the amount. --72.193.xx.xxx




Check Memo Line (by Vee [OH]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2014 4:09 AM
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ORC 5321 does indicate anyone has a right to a jury trial, the cost for them to proceed may be staggering which is why many of us do not pay 5-7-10k to begin when chasing out 1800 in damages. In the future add the clause -waiver of jury trial-, find someone in your local group who can spell this out clearly on your lease. --75.94.xxx.xxx




Check Memo Line (by CTLL [CT]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2014 5:43 AM
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"to pay the deposit in full" - is badly worded and immediately caught my eye. Makes the recipient think he will be getting his deposit returned IN FULL - something that will be happening.

"Final Payment" might be a better choice. But as others have stated, could still be argued in court.

--98.182.xx.xxx




Check Memo Line (by Patti [OK]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2014 7:25 AM
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we send a letter along with itemized statement for the security deposit that states once you deposit or cash the security deposit check this settlement check the matter is settled. My real estate attorney told me that once a tenant cashes that that is the end and by cashing or deposit it they have agreed to settle for at amount. If he has cashed that check it settled, set back and see if they bluffing.

--72.198.xx.xx




Check Memo Line (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2014 11:11 AM
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you can write anything you want on a memo line and it doesn't make it so.

Buy a new car, make one payment, write "paid in full" on the memo line and bingo ... you have a $30,000 vehicle for $400.

pay your electric bill and write on the memo line "payment for the next 60 months" ... bingo, 5 years worth of electric.

Payments in many situations go to "payment centers" and often times don't go through human hands any longer ... that's how if you send your electric check to the gas company and vice versa, they get cashed.

for the op ... if they are going to sue, they are going to sue. Have your ducks in a row with your deductions and worry about the suit when/if it actually gets filed. --174.55.xxx.xxx




Check Memo Line (by Chris [CA]) Posted on: Jul 10, 2014 2:38 PM
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How long ago was this? Never heard for a SD refund by "installments" ;-)

--101.108.xxx.xxx





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