 GUESTS (by Diane [MA]) Jul 8, 2014 5:04 PM
 GUESTS (by Dan [MA]) Jul 8, 2014 5:38 PM
GUESTS (by Ken [NY]) Jul 8, 2014 5:43 PM
GUESTS (by WMH [NC]) Jul 8, 2014 5:48 PM
GUESTS (by DIANE [MA]) Jul 8, 2014 6:01 PM
GUESTS (by James [MO]) Jul 8, 2014 6:32 PM
GUESTS (by AllyM [NJ]) Jul 8, 2014 7:49 PM
GUESTS (by Nellie [ME]) Jul 8, 2014 8:11 PM
GUESTS (by Cee [CA]) Jul 8, 2014 9:16 PM
GUESTS (by LiveTheDream [AZ]) Jul 8, 2014 10:21 PM
GUESTS (by Pattyk [MO]) Jul 9, 2014 3:30 AM
GUESTS (by J [FL]) Jul 9, 2014 4:41 AM
GUESTS (by Diane [MA]) Jul 9, 2014 5:12 AM
GUESTS (by Dan [MA]) Jul 9, 2014 5:52 AM
GUESTS (by RentsDue [MA]) Jul 9, 2014 6:06 AM
GUESTS (by Heather [IL]) Jul 9, 2014 6:59 AM
GUESTS (by Diane [MA]) Jul 9, 2014 7:03 AM
GUESTS (by bet [MA]) Jul 9, 2014 7:45 AM
GUESTS (by Heather [IL]) Jul 9, 2014 10:36 AM
GUESTS (by Diane [MA]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2014 5:04 PM
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No matter how much I think I have my bases covered - the tenant out=snookers me!! Tenant agreement states any guests over 7 days need my written approval. But tenant is having 4 (FOUR) GUESTS for a week (yep, a WEEK)! I MESSED UP. and need to shore up my rental agreement (TAW, not Lease). Can I write in a per night fee per guest over x number of days??
Beyond pissed at myself, so please - no need to lambast me any more than I already have done to myself. --108.20.xx.xx |
GUESTS (by Dan [MA]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2014 5:38 PM
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Do they pay the rent and not disturb the neighbors? If so, why do you care that they are having 4 guests stay over for a week?
What if they had a party and had 50 people visit for 10 hours - wouldn't that be about the same thing in terms of people/hour. What's the difference as long as they pay and don't damage your place? --50.169.xx.xx |
GUESTS (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2014 5:43 PM
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Why do you care? Shouldn't your tenant be able to have friends or family visit and feel ccomfortable staying in there home?I wonder if the bank holding the motrtgage on your personal residence would get upset if you had friends stay for a week? --24.92.xx.xxx |
GUESTS (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2014 5:48 PM
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Wait. WHAT? They are renting a HOME from you. HOMES welcome GUESTS. Are you really upset they had guests for a week????? --50.82.xxx.xxx |
GUESTS (by DIANE [MA]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2014 6:01 PM
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I feel the need to extrapolate. There are 2 women in the apartment - each of whom has guests on a combined total of about 10 days/month. They are both from out of state, so use this house as their touch stone. And in so doing - the water bill has soared since they moved in a year ago. And they bang around like they are in a hotel. I do not like being treated like a hotel. --108.20.xx.xx |
GUESTS (by James [MO]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2014 6:32 PM
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I'm rather surprised at the answers up to now. No one asked the question "what is the property type?" For instance, if it were a property type where I paid water, it would make a rather large difference how many "guests" we in my property.
There is more wear and tear on the property. And, the larger number of tenants may well disturb the other tenants, again depending on property type.
I have a clause that limits the days to 4 consecutive days, no more than twice per month without my written permission. If they do it without my written permission it is a breach of the lease. I can also charge an additional $150 per month for each adult there over the period.
We thought that the additional rent clause would discourage this type of activity. But as it has turned out, I've charged the additional rent and received it. We tend to notice this more in our duplexes, where we see the water bill go up, and start to receive complaints from surrounding tenants regarding noise.
James --65.27.xx.xxx |
GUESTS (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2014 7:49 PM
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People are going to have guests. It's not a prison or a cage. It's an apartment that they are paying for. If you think this cost you something, then up the rent next year.
Olde Miss Ally --69.142.xx.x |
GUESTS (by Nellie [ME]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2014 8:11 PM
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You could let them know about the increased use in water by doing a "water leak" check. Is there a leaking faucet or flush valve?
It also might be a good time to change showerheads to 1.5 - 2.0 gallon/minute shower heads and make sure all faucet aerators are on and functioning. The bathroom one can be changed to a 1.0 gallon/minute aerator.
A letter to accompany the notice to enter regarding the increase in water and potential for increase in rental amounts could also accompany your 24 hour notice to enter. --70.16.xx.xx |
GUESTS (by Cee [CA]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2014 9:16 PM
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Diane, is it always the same visitors or do you think your tenants are running an Airbnb or couchsurfing listing?
--76.14.xx.xxx |
GUESTS (by LiveTheDream [AZ]) Posted on: Jul 8, 2014 10:21 PM
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My unregistered occupant clause is roughly that tenants are allowed ONE guest per bedroom for a maximum of three days a month or 10 per quarter. So a one bedroom can have one guest, if the tenant's great grand parents come to visit the tenant handbook/lease explains what hotels are for.
Any guest staying longer than 3 days incurs a $150 per month rent increase to cover additional water and wear and tear. Very simple.
Any occupant moving in long term requires management approval.
Another great reason for m to m rentals. Can't live with the rules, bye-bye.
Keep in mind I have apartments, not SFH's. When I have rented homes the guest rules are more relaxed. Basically with a SFH I pretty much stay out of things unless something becomes a problem. Various clauses cover things like a couple moving in and then having fifteen friends live there, etc. --67.44.xxx.xx |
GUESTS (by Pattyk [MO]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2014 3:30 AM
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what does your lease state about guest?
Most likely we would not like what most people do in most homes. sigh.
Dont' renew their lease ? What are the terms for not renewing? --184.215.xx.xxx |
GUESTS (by J [FL]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2014 4:41 AM
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I like the idea of these extra guest charges but couldn't this backfire if the tenant decides to challenge it in court? U It seems like they could claim that the guest(s) were only there for X days. What do you use for proof, datestamped photos of extra vehicles in the driveway? --67.8.xxx.xxx |
GUESTS (by Diane [MA]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2014 5:12 AM
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I was hoping to get ideas on shoring up the rental agreement about the "revolving door" of guests. Anyone in MA?? Right now my agreement says 7 days, and I am going to reduce that to 3 day stays without further charges per person as well as written permission from me IN ADVANCE of the stay. I live in the house too, so I want to know who is here in my living space. --108.20.xx.xx |
GUESTS (by Dan [MA]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2014 5:52 AM
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Originally, you didn't say this was 4 people staying 7 days every month. Other than the water issue, my opinion is still the same.
Being a landlord in MA (who just paid about $15,000 in water bills this week), I understand your pain over water.
For this particular situation, I wouldn't necessarily tighten the guest clause. I would simply speak to the tenants and explain that their volume of overnight guests is costing an enormous addition to the water bill. I would inform them that as a result, you'll have to raise the rent (right away if they are MTM or at renewal if it is a lease). That might get them to tone it down a bit.
I've run across numerous tenants who actually thought water was provided to the building for free from the city, because being tenants all their lives in MA they had never seen or heard of a water bill. --64.197.xx.xx |
GUESTS (by RentsDue [MA]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2014 6:06 AM
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I go by the HUD lease guidelines. I think it is 7 days in 1 month, but not 100% sure. It's the state's guidelines, so it should hd up in court just fine. Time and date stamped photos showing the cars there at night and then still there the next morning still work. Camera system might make that easier on you. It bothers you because you live there.....I get it. If it was two towns away it would be " out of sight and out of mind". Water bills do increase drastically with more people, as well as wear and tear. Get your evidence first, then serve a Notice To Quit, if their actions are violating any lease term ( your right to peace and quiet). Most cities in MA have an ordinance against more than 4 unrelated people living together. If they are creating a boarding house situation they are violating city laws and there is probably something in your lease about that. Have the sheriff serve it- the games will end. But.....there are always consequences. If they leave you have a vacancy. If they stay then things will be a little uncomfortable. If they are MTM, give them notice you are terminating tenancy and enjoy your home again. Roomate situations like this aren't my favorite. F --24.177.xxx.xx |
GUESTS (by Heather [IL]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2014 6:59 AM
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You can talk to your tenants all you want, but don't expect them to do what is right, give them a warning, if they don't get rid of the extra people you will increase the rent if they are on month to month, if they have a year lease don't renew their lease. --66.87.xx.xxx |
GUESTS (by Diane [MA]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2014 7:03 AM
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I already raised the rent. I want to stem the flow of guests, and firm up the language in my rental agreement. Not looking to evict them. --108.20.xx.xx |
GUESTS (by bet [MA]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2014 7:45 AM
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I would just get rid of them, that's me. Get ppl in there that don't have so much company. Do you want to spend your time trying to play cop over your own property. --74.104.xxx.xxx |
GUESTS (by Heather [IL]) Posted on: Jul 9, 2014 10:36 AM
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Agree with Bet 100% I would the same. --66.87.xx.xxx |
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