exterior siding (by Kathleen [WV]) Mar 8, 2014 6:06 AM|
exterior siding (by CTLL [CT]) Mar 8, 2014 7:21 AM
exterior siding (by Gary G [IN]) Mar 8, 2014 8:10 AM
exterior siding (by AllyM [NJ]) Mar 8, 2014 9:13 AM
exterior siding (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Mar 8, 2014 2:54 PM
exterior siding (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Mar 8, 2014 2:56 PM
exterior siding (by Gruvin [TX]) Mar 8, 2014 3:25 PM
exterior siding (by V [OH]) Mar 8, 2014 7:07 PM
exterior siding (by Q [NE]) Mar 9, 2014 12:18 AM
exterior siding (by RR78 [VA]) Mar 9, 2014 8:28 AM
exterior siding (by Kathleen [WV]) Mar 9, 2014 1:06 PM
exterior siding (by Gruvin [TX]) Mar 9, 2014 6:49 PM
exterior siding (by Kathleen [WV]) Posted on: Mar 8, 2014 6:06 AM
State Specific Question About: WEST VIRGINIA (WV)
The exterior on my wood-sided building needs repair, maybe replacement. Is it best to install new vinyl siding over the existing siding or should I go to the added expenses of removing all of the wood siding, then install new. The wood siding is missing several boards, and is rotted in many places. This is a 3 story, 12 unit building, so it's fairly large.
Also, what could I expect regarding life expectancy either way?
exterior siding (by CTLL [CT]) Posted on: Mar 8, 2014 7:21 AM
I suggest that you get some free estimates (3) from professional installers. They will advise you on what is best.
From my unprofessional opinion, it seems that replacing any rotted boards would be the first step and then covering all with vinyl siding. I would not remove all wood siding. --68.229.xx.xxx
exterior siding (by Gary G [IN]) Posted on: Mar 8, 2014 8:10 AM
I agree with CTLL, except some contractors may lead you astray with a crazy idea. The common reason to get 3 bids is to compare prices, but you have to dig deeper to understand exactly how they propose to do their work. Ask questions so you really understand. Ask them to write their descriptions of the repairs into the contract if it is not already there. I suggest repairs of any bad areas, then install vinyl siding. Ask them to write into the contract that they will install all materials according to manufacturers specifications. This will help you to understand which contractor may have the crazy idea. Dismiss his crazy idea estimate and go with the lowest estimate of the contractors that have similar proposed work methods.
HERE IS MY TIP OF THE DAY! Vinyl siding is not waterproof. Any repair to the old bad siding under the vinyl siding MUST be the waterproofing part. Demand they repair it properly to stop any water migrating into the structure. they could also use some coil stock, step flashing and Z flashing where necessary to waterproof the old siding before covering with vinyl siding. You should be able to spray your house with the hose and not get any water inside before house wrap or vinyl siding goes on. I'd also use a house wrap of some kind. Some are better than others. Demand that all materials be installed according to manufacturers specifications, NOT the installers way if he is trying to cut corners and make more money. Be there several times the first few days and take lots of pictures. Look carefully at the materials being used, are they the ones specified? Go on the internet to the manufactures website and look up the proper installation method. Are they doing it right? If not stop them immediately and point it out. Do not let them continue if they are doing it wrong. If you allow them to continue, your house will look similar to all of the others with vinyl siding, but yours will be the one that continues to rot under all that vinyl! --99.132.xxx.xx
exterior siding (by AllyM [NJ]) Posted on: Mar 8, 2014 9:13 AM
Great advice Gary G IN, using the words according to manufacturers specifications!! I have been looking for wording like that.
Yes contractors like to give a price and method and then cut corners all over the place and somehow they have no conscience or any idea that their crazy idea will create a problem.
Olde Miss Ally --69.141.xxx.xxx
exterior siding (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Mar 8, 2014 2:54 PM
Poke around and learn what's behind the siding. Many houses have raw plywood or flat boards which make the wall.
Tip: the thicker siding holds up better for minimal extra cost. It also gives straighter, truer lines.
exterior siding (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Mar 8, 2014 2:56 PM
so check out some samples and specify the thickness and brand you want the contractors to quote. --67.175.xx.xxx
exterior siding (by Gruvin [TX]) Posted on: Mar 8, 2014 3:25 PM
We have been replacing all of our wood sided houses that can't be scraped and painted with OSB or plywood plus house wrap and finally cement fiberboard. We follow specific manufacturers instructions and do even the trim boards in cement fiberboard. Once caulked and painted with proper flashing, you are good for years.
If the wood siding can be salvaged and repaired, it may be more cost effective to do this...
We do not use vinyl siding and will not take the job if a customer wants to use it. --23.123.xxx.xx
exterior siding (by V [OH]) Posted on: Mar 8, 2014 7:07 PM
Any rotted wood is the next bee, carpenter ants or termite nest, unless you have a grant to run this insect parlor as a branch of the zoo, replace any suspicious wood. Then choose the type of exterior siding finish you like, painting bad wood amplifies the bad wood look, don't waste your paint or labor fooling around with it. --75.94.xxx.xxx
exterior siding (by Q [NE]) Posted on: Mar 9, 2014 12:18 AM
Anytime one of my properties needs some exterior TLC I always try to go with vinyl siding as apposed to repainting. Any rot or damage will first be repaired and then we cover the old siding with foam insulation board to give the vinyl a flat surface to lay on. I have never removed old siding to put on new vinyl. In my area here in Nebraska, vinyl is extremely popular, easy to install and looks great for years and years. We use coil stock to wrap all the windows, doors and facia. Aluminum soffits and seamless gutters and the house looks like new and is almost maintenance free.
These last few years I have been using the exact same color of siding, shingles and coil stock on all of my properties to keep things easier for me and to keep repairs and replacements a snap. One color of repair inventory for all properties will be nice.
Menards was offering a bunch of clearance items these last few weeks. I purchased some ceiling fans, lighting and 30 sets of Mainstream decorative shutters of various sizes. Since I bought all 30 sets I was able to negotiate a great price of $5 per set (normally $24 per set). I'll use them this fall to spruce up 2 of my properties.
exterior siding (by RR78 [VA]) Posted on: Mar 9, 2014 8:28 AM
What Brad said.
Its well worth it to go a step or two higher than the builders grade.
We use a .048 gauge vinyl.
exterior siding (by Kathleen [WV]) Posted on: Mar 9, 2014 1:06 PM
Thanks everyone for all your comments! I like the look of cement/Hardy board, but it doesn't really seem as cost effective compared to vinyl.
That said, how many years can I expect to get from the thicker vinyl? Also, I guess I should have mentioned this property is in the mountains of WV (lots of snow) if that matters with respect to paint vs vinyl vs cement board.
Thanks again! --108.31.xx.xxx
exterior siding (by Gruvin [TX]) Posted on: Mar 9, 2014 6:49 PM
I forgot to mention that cement fiberboard gets the same insurance rating as brick, we get a discount every time we switch from vinyl siding to cement fiberboard. --23.123.xxx.xx