I own this (by carl [OH]) Jan 20, 2014 10:45 AM
I own this (by CarolJ [CA]) Jan 20, 2014 10:50 AM
I own this (by Nancy [IN]) Jan 20, 2014 10:54 AM
I own this (by V [OH]) Jan 20, 2014 11:00 AM
I own this (by Wayne [CA]) Jan 20, 2014 11:07 AM
I own this (by Moshe [CA]) Jan 20, 2014 11:12 AM
I own this (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Jan 20, 2014 12:04 PM
I own this (by Pattyk [MO]) Jan 20, 2014 12:58 PM
I own this (by Deanna [TX]) Jan 20, 2014 1:52 PM
I own this (by WMH [NC]) Jan 20, 2014 2:05 PM
I own this (by CarolJ [CA]) Jan 20, 2014 2:13 PM
I own this (by LiveTheDream. [AZ]) Jan 20, 2014 3:14 PM
I own this (by don [PA]) Jan 21, 2014 12:42 PM
I own this (by Gruvin [TX]) Jan 21, 2014 1:15 PM
I own this (by carl [OH]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2014 10:45 AM Message:
State Specific Question About: OHIO (OH)
I just had a 2nd flr tenant,tell me that he did not want to see me on the Property unless I call 1st,waite!,Waite! is your name on the "DEED"I ASKED???what if I want to inspect the basement,or collect the rent from the 1st flr Tenant.Tenant Rights was mention in this heated "Brawl",where or what is my Rights as the "OWNER"of the property& do's&don't s. --172.11.xx.xxx |
I own this (by CarolJ [CA]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2014 10:50 AM Message:
Don't let it escalate into violence with these people. Read your state law on proper notice. That is to enter, not to be on your property, but no good will come of getting into confrontations with someone bold or crazy enough to tell you that you can't be on your own property.
As with troublesome tenants who are being evicted, my attorney advised me to keep away and have no contact. If you're willing to have some tenant speak to you like that, you don't want a bullet or knife in your chest, so stay away without proper notice.
If you're unwilling to have a tenant tell you what you can and can't do on your own property, barring violating their rights, you need to get a lawyer and get rid of them. --71.177.xx.xx |
I own this (by Nancy [IN]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2014 10:54 AM Message:
Your tenant has the right to exclusive possession and use while he is under a tenancy. You can't just go in any time you want.
You do need to give him notice.
If this is an eviction situation, which is unclear here, you should do everything in writing for your own safety. And just get him out, hopefully, with little damage. Do not enrage a tenant who is in possession of your property. --50.129.x.xxx |
I own this (by V [OH]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2014 11:00 AM Message:
You can visit the -common area- anytime, however his unit described in the lease needs to have notice served, print yourself a copy of orc 5321 and your local tenant laws. --75.94.xxx.xxx |
I own this (by Wayne [CA]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2014 11:07 AM Message:
i'm assuming he meant inside his unit only. you need notice to enter (unless emergency - water/elecrical). --72.214.xx.xxx |
I own this (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2014 11:12 AM Message:
I would say that, If you're unwilling to have a tenant tell you what you can and can't do on your own property, then you should get out of the landlord business.
There is a legal doctrine, called "Warrantee of Quiet Enjoyment", in which you warranted to the tenant that he would be free of interference in his occupation (possession) of the property. That doctrine has nothing to do with noise. It has everything to do with interference BY THE LANDLORD!
You don't remember that statement in your lease? Look again. Read the invisible ink.
I needs to be pointed out that you got off easy this time. You are exposing yourself to very expensive punishment for trespass, invasion of privacy and violation of the right of quiet enjoyment.
Your state legislature has probably enacted some exceptions to the centuries-old doctrine of quiet enjoyment, such as entrance to make repairs, show premises to potential buyers, etc., but "inspections" may not be on the list (CA doesn't allow entrance for inspections, except in one specific case). But these exceptions have specific limitations built into them, such as notice, hours, and purposes, and you will NEED to follow them.
--98.112.xxx.xxx |
I own this (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2014 12:04 PM Message:
Carl, This is how LLs get killed: arguing with tenants.
They HAVE TO win. If they can't win the argument they will circle around somehow and GET EVEN.
Get to a basic LL class. "Experienced" does not always mean "correct".
Your resident is correct that you must provide proper notice before entering his HOME.
Now, if this guy is just a troublemaker, mail him the happy clause.
--67.175.xx.xxx |
I own this (by Pattyk [MO]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2014 12:58 PM Message:
just curious what happened that lead up to the tenant's telling you this? --184.215.xx.xxx |
I own this (by Deanna [TX]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2014 1:52 PM Message:
Where were you when the confrontation occurred? Outside his front door, or in his kitchen? What's the layout of the property? How do you access the second floor to talk to the second floor tenant?
"is your name on the "DEED"?" is neither snappy nor witty nor helpful. It is only toned to escalate a situation, which it did most admirably.
What does Ohio law say about your having to give notice prior to entry? What does your lease say about being "inside" the premises vs being "on" the premises?
If I was a tenant, and my landlord was planting petunias in the border along the driveway, I would not go all crazy-territorial like yours did. If I was a tenant, and came back from grocery shopping to find my landlord ensconced on my couch and eating my Cheetos, my reaction would be unfavorable.
What were you doing when you triggered his anger and the feeling that he was being intruded upon and that his privacy was being violated? --64.72.xx.xx |
I own this (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2014 2:05 PM Message:
I have to ask the same questions as Deanna, etc: how did this come about??? --50.82.xxx.xxx |
I own this (by CarolJ [CA]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2014 2:13 PM Message:
He posted this last night, but it's still not that clear.
Used rent for funeral? (by carl [OH]) Posted on: Jan 19, 2014 5:30 PM
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I just had a 2nd flr tenant tell me that he didn't want to see me on the property unless I call first!!!wait wait what about the basement or to collect the rent from 1st flr tenant, I ask him,is your name on the deed??;someone yelled tenants"RIGHTS",where or what is my off-limted area's to the property far as basement,hallways,garage,front&rear porch repairs ect.. --172.11.xx.xxx
I still think he needs to stop antagonizing someone like this. If the T is interfering in his right to visit areas that don't require notification, he should call the police to keep the peace if he feels threatened, but he shouldn't engage the crazy by arguing. If he's violating this guy's living space, he'd better hope his T only yells at him instead of yelling for a lawyer.
--71.177.xx.xx |
I own this (by LiveTheDream. [AZ]) Posted on: Jan 20, 2014 3:14 PM Message:
Oh the joy of month to month leases.
If someone did that to me it would be very simple. The next morning they would have their 30 day notice. Tell it to your next LL.
Of course I don't enter tenants rented premises without invitation or proper legal notice. --24.156.xx.xx |
I own this (by don [PA]) Posted on: Jan 21, 2014 12:42 PM Message:
The tenant's name is not on the deed, but it is on the lease. You don't seem to understand that the lease gives away some of your rights in the property, such as the right of possession. --70.90.xx.xxx |
I own this (by Gruvin [TX]) Posted on: Jan 21, 2014 1:15 PM Message:
You have the right to be in any common area of the property since it is a multi unit, beyond that - your tenant is mostly correct that you don't have a reason to be there unless he called or you are doing maintenance with prior notice. He has every right to refuse you access while he is home in the unit. --23.123.xxx.xx |
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