mold (by emy [CA]) Apr 6, 2013 12:52 PM|
mold (by RichE [IL]) Apr 6, 2013 1:51 PM
mold (by in [IN]) Apr 6, 2013 2:02 PM
mold (by OPM [OR]) Apr 6, 2013 2:53 PM
mold (by V [OH]) Apr 6, 2013 5:59 PM
mold (by juda jolie [TX]) Apr 6, 2013 9:06 PM
mold (by Juda Jolie [TX]) Apr 6, 2013 9:06 PM
mold (by JUDA JOLIE [TX]) Apr 6, 2013 9:08 PM
mold (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Apr 6, 2013 10:41 PM
mold (by in [IN]) Apr 7, 2013 7:55 AM
mold (by Kathi [OH]) Apr 7, 2013 7:58 AM
mold (by Nicole [PA]) Apr 7, 2013 8:28 AM
mold (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Apr 7, 2013 12:08 PM
mold (by Emy [CA]) Apr 9, 2013 3:01 PM
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mold (by emy [CA]) Posted on: Apr 6, 2013 12:52 PM
My tenant had one of those send away mold tests done that compare the mold levels in your home to the national average it came back with a reading of 4.3 which is moderate moldyness There has not been any water leaks no visable mold anywhere she says the carpet in the bedroom smells musty when she gets down and smells it. Non of the carpet is damp/ or shows any stains I told her I would come and inspect Do you think there is a problem I don't want to open a can of worms, but since her test show results barely into the moderate rang I don't want to spend several hundred dollars having an expert come and test This tenant also tends to be a little on the far side saying she's sensative to electric current, so she shuts off certain breakers and puts her cell phone in a can --23.24.xxx.xx
mold (by RichE [IL]) Posted on: Apr 6, 2013 1:51 PM
Time for the happy clause --67.173.xx.xxx
mold (by in [IN]) Posted on: Apr 6, 2013 2:02 PM
We had a Board Certified Medical Pathologist look at the sample our tenant found and the tenant agreed to pay the $1200 fee.
Get it in writing, or an email.
Now a Medical Pathologist is looking for problems and not trying to sell any chemicals or service.
Funny when money is coming out of their pocket they shut up.
mold (by OPM [OR]) Posted on: Apr 6, 2013 2:53 PM
C.D.C. (CENTER FOR DISEASE CONTROL) 2011
*MILDEW/MOLD SPORES ARE A
NATURALLY OCCURRING AND ARE PRESENT IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER IN THE AIR AND AS SUCH CANNOT BE ELIMINATED.
THE MOISTURE NECESSARY TO
GROW CAN BE CAUSED BY THE ENVIRONMENT CREATED
IN THE HOME, LONG SHOWERS, NOT PROPER VENTING OR BY A LEAK.
HOWEVER THEY GROW VISIBLE
WHEN THERE IS ENOUGH MOISTURE PRESENT
*AT PRESENT OF THE 200 COMMON MOLDS, THERE IS NO TEST THAT PROVES AN ASSOCIATION BETWEEN STACHYBOTRYS CHARTARUM (STACHYBOTRYS ATRA) AND PARTICULAR HEALTH
INDIVIDUALS WITH PERSISTENT SYMPTOMS SHOULD SEE THEIR PHYSICIAN.
IF STACHYBOTRYS CHARTARUM (STACHYBOTRYS ATRA) OR OTHER MOLDS ARE FOUND IN A
BUILDING, PRUDENT PRACTICE RECOMMENDS THAT THEY BE REMOVED.
EPA WEBSITE. EPA.GOV /MOLD/MOLDRESOURSES.HTML
mold (by V [OH]) Posted on: Apr 6, 2013 5:59 PM
Open the window to dry out the placv where the bath towels get tossed until friday nite when they open the washing machine, a bit of bleach water and sing the songs of the Bayou while you clean - this is what they did with Katrina. --75.94.xxx.xxx
mold (by juda jolie [TX]) Posted on: Apr 6, 2013 9:06 PM
This is also from the CDC:
mold (by Juda Jolie [TX]) Posted on: Apr 6, 2013 9:06 PM
Mold and Your HealthExposure to damp and moldy environments may cause a variety of health effects, or none at all. Some people are sensitive to molds. For these people, molds can cause nasal stuffiness, throat irritation, coughing or wheezing, eye irritation, or, in some cases, skin irritation. People with mold allergies may have more severe reactions. Immune-compromised people and people with chronic lung illnesses, such as obstructive lung disease, may get serious infections in their lungs when they are exposed to mold. These people should stay away from areas that are likely to have mold, such as compost piles, cut grass, and wooded areas.
In 2004 the Institute of Medicine (IOM) found there was sufficient evidence to link indoor exposure to mold with upper respiratory tract symptoms, cough, and wheeze in otherwise healthy people; with asthma symptoms in people with asthma; and with hypersensitivity pneumonitis in individuals susceptible to that immune-mediated condition. The IOM also found limited or suggestive evidence linking indoor mold exposure and respiratory illness in otherwise healthy children.
In addition, in 2004 the IOM found sufficient evidence to link exposure to damp indoor environments in general to upper respiratory tract symptoms, cough, and wheeze in otherwise healthy people and with asthma symptoms in people with asthma. The IOM also found limited or suggestive evidence linking exposure to damp indoor environments in general to shortness of breath, to respiratory illness in otherwise healthy children and to potential development of asthma in susceptible individuals. In 2009, the World Health Organization issued additional guidance, the WHO Guidelines for Indoor Air Quality: Dampness and Mould [PDF - 2.52 MB]. Other recent studies have suggested a potential link of early mold exposure to development of asthma in some children, particularly among children who may be genetically susceptible to asthma development, and that selected interventions that improve housing conditions can reduce morbidity from asthma and respiratory allergies, but more research is needed in this regard.
A link between other adverse health effects, such as acute idiopathic pulmonary hemorrhage among infants, memory loss, or lethargy, and molds, including the mold Stachybotrys chartarum(Stachybotrys atra), has not been proven. Further studies are needed to find out what causes acute idiopathic hemorrhage and other adverse health effects. --97.94.xxx.xx
mold (by JUDA JOLIE [TX]) Posted on: Apr 6, 2013 9:08 PM
A poorly insulated home plus water leaks causes MOLD. If water leaks have occurred in the home and the home has little to no insulation, be honest and tell the tenant; don't just cover the mold up with paint! Disgusting. Just because links have not been found does not mean it does not exist. --97.94.xxx.xx
mold (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Apr 6, 2013 10:41 PM
emy, Come to Convention in May. I'll be passing out my mold protection clauses. Saved my rear in court and has (for the moment) stopped mold complaints.
Most leases and LLs are not prepared to handle mold issues - this will change that!
DO NOT have a test done! It will only prove deeper that YOU have a problem.
Go NOW, take a ton of pictures to prove the house is clean and identify and problem areas.
CLEAN IT NOW with bleach water (because that's what everyone expects but bleach does not KILL mold, it only bleaches it white)and treat with Jomax, Concrobium, or Moldex from Lowes/Menards/HomeDepot.
Document that you cleaned it and TREATED IT, and take more pictures.
If they want out, let them leave with an Early Lease Termination Fee.
mold (by in [IN]) Posted on: Apr 7, 2013 7:55 AM
If the tenants want to do a test, the can, and it is within their rights.
No pictures you take will show mold spores.
If they want to leave let them and limit your liability.
Every house has mole spores,
If it ever goes to formal court and you have a Lowe’s Mole test kid and a 1 day expert with a seminar degree, forget it.
Credibility is lost when a real Medical Pathologist is brought in.with 13 years of college a Board Certified Certificate.
Limit your liability and get them out the door,
if you want to fight it, find someone Creditable,
mold (by Kathi [OH]) Posted on: Apr 7, 2013 7:58 AM
Mold is everywhere. You don't know how this compares to the levels of the outside environment. Most mold in the home is mildew and is the result of excess moisture, some of which is the result of occupant action. --69.221.x.xxx
mold (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Apr 7, 2013 8:28 AM
this specific tenant is one you don't want whether or not there really is mold in the house. Keeping her cell phone in a can is not normal behavior and she will continually find something to complain about.
I also would get her out because flipping breakers on and off is not a good thing.
mold (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Apr 7, 2013 12:08 PM
emy, Even if she moves out, she can still sue you. YOU must defend yourself and prove the home was habitable.
Your best defense is to act promptly to her complaint. Photos don't lie in court and the judge will want to knwo what you did about it - and how promptly.
I'd ask her for a copy of the test , she'll probably be glad to give them to you, as they will PROVE your house was NORMAL. --67.175.xx.xxx
mold (by Emy [CA]) Posted on: Apr 9, 2013 3:01 PM
Thank you all for your insight After reading your responses I think I will be OK E-mailed my tenant (so it would be in writing) that I would like to come over as soon as possible She sent me the ERMI report and I responded right away. She writes back would like to wait until her boyfriend is back in 10 days. So doesn't seem like a huge urgency when you tell me in Nov 2012 that she's planning on doing a test and then don't do the teat until March 29th 2013 (5) months later, and you are willing to wait 10 more days for me to come and inspect for leaks etc --23.24.xxx.xx
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