Abusive Tenant (by Alex [GA]) Nov 27, 2012 4:47 AM|
Abusive Tenant (by S i d [MO]) Nov 27, 2012 5:28 AM
Abusive Tenant (by Robert.Ontario,Canada [ON]) Nov 27, 2012 5:53 AM
Abusive Tenant (by Mike45 [NV]) Nov 27, 2012 11:00 AM
Abusive Tenant (by Nicole [PA]) Nov 27, 2012 11:18 AM
Abusive Tenant (by Phil [OR]) Nov 27, 2012 11:22 AM
Abusive Tenant (by Lance [NJ]) Nov 27, 2012 11:45 AM
Abusive Tenant (by LandlordWhisperer [VA]) Nov 27, 2012 1:12 PM
Abusive Tenant (by Laura [GA]) Nov 27, 2012 6:56 PM
Abusive Tenant (by Barbara [VA]) Nov 28, 2012 5:21 AM
Abusive Tenant (by LandlordWhisperer [VA]) Nov 28, 2012 6:23 AM
Abusive Tenant (by V [OH]) Nov 28, 2012 12:36 PM
Abusive Tenant (by EXHAUSTED FRIEND [OR]) Jan 9, 2014 7:05 PM
Abusive Tenant (by Nellie [ME]) Jan 10, 2014 5:48 AM
Abusive Tenant (by Tricia Ihm [WI]) Jan 27, 2014 6:51 AM
Abusive Tenant (by Alex [GA]) Posted on: Nov 27, 2012 4:47 AM
I have a tenant who is now acting nasty. She started complaining and using very abusive language. I avoid to communicate to her verbally and prefer only Text Messages. She tries to call me hoping that I will pick up phone and listen to her nasty language. She does not leave voice mail messages. She did not stop there and now writing abusive words in the Text Messages. There are name callings and things like that. I sometimes feel harassed. This is the first time it is happening to me. I do not know how to handle this. Going through courts takes time. I am not a full time landlord and have a busy and tiring day at work. Going to court and showing up by taking time out of work in itself is time consuming. What options do I have?
Abusive Tenant (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Nov 27, 2012 5:28 AM
First off, I'm curious what it is that she's complaining about. Stupid stuff, or is it legit and she just doesn't know how to act civilly?
I do not put up with verbal or physical abuse. I would draft a letter today and mail it to her certified mail that you are giving notice of lease non-renewal effective TODAY. So even if her lease doesn't expire until April 2013, as of TODAY she is aware it is not going to be renewed. No specific reason needs to be given. Just "your lease which ends xxx will not be removed. Please be completely moved out and return keys on that date by (whatever time). A move out inspection will follow."
This puts the ball in her court to contact you.
Be careful though. This will undoubtedly pi$$ her off something serious. Well whoopee doo. She's already angry. But what you do need to do is follow up with a maintenance visit 30-60 days BEFORE the end of the tenancy so you can note damages, repair them, and bill them to the tenant. Don't wait until the end to find out how many holes she and her ex-con boyfriend have punched in your walls. There won't be enough deposit to cover it, likely. Hire a rough and tough handy man who looks like he leads a biker gang to go over to take care of it. If she refuses to let him in for a scheduled appointment (post time and date on the door in advance, of course), bill her for the service call and reschedule. Rinse, repeat as often as necessary, and keep sending the bills and deducting them from her rent. The day she doesn't pay the charges and is short on rent, evict her.
Some might call this the perfect recipe to hack off a tenant. She's already hacked off. Nothing you can do at this point to change that. I call it, "taking back control and de-stressing."
If you don't like my ideas, that's fine, but whatever you do, under no circumstances do you answer her hateful texts or phone calls. Do not participate in this kind of childish behavior. --108.250.xxx.xxx
Abusive Tenant (by Robert.Ontario,Canada [ON]) Posted on: Nov 27, 2012 5:53 AM
There are some people where one can not resolve issues. As long as the rental unit meets all the building and fire codes then one has done what is expected. Minimum codes does not have to look the best just there can not be missing tiles, loose plaster or having the heating, hot water, plumbing not working. Keep records anytime something is done in the rental unit. It may be worth getting advise from a landlords association where one can google to find a landlords near the rental. Tenants forget they are renting a space they do not have any money invested. --216.110.xxx.xxx
Abusive Tenant (by Mike45 [NV]) Posted on: Nov 27, 2012 11:00 AM
If Tenant is just using languge that offends you, there is not much you can do until the lease is up. However, if the Tenant threatens you, report it to the cops. I find that sooner or later, the abusive person will make a threat.
Save all of the texts and voicemails. You might need them in court someday.
I am sorry that you do not want to spend time going to court, but it may very well come to that. That is one of the occupational hazards of being a LL.
Abusive Tenant (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Nov 27, 2012 11:18 AM
I'm tough skinned and I cannot imagine what a tenant might say to me to get me riled up- I might not like it but I wouldn't be upset. I don't engage in "jabbering" with anyone, in any of my jobs so I would hang up if I answered and someone started ranting rather than attempting to hold a civil conversation. who cares what a voice message says, delete it. Not sure what "abusive words" means - cussing and you don't like it? Some people can't speak without "salty" language. so what if someone calls you a name ... you know, sticks & stones ...
Of course, bottom line is what is this really about and why aren't you remedying whatever the base issue is? --72.95.xx.xxx
Abusive Tenant (by Phil [OR]) Posted on: Nov 27, 2012 11:22 AM
I concure with Sid. If she is on a month to month-- give her a 30 day "no cause" ( or whatever time your state has set) If asked why-- just answer "no cause" and say no more. Anything more that you say can and will be used against you. --98.232.xxx.xx
Abusive Tenant (by Lance [NJ]) Posted on: Nov 27, 2012 11:45 AM
Hang in there. Even after all these years, lawsuits and nasty tenants still stress me out. It could be for something small like $300 and it still gets me riled up.
Trying to "win" is a losing battle. I've found that the only solution is to get rid of her even if it costs money.
If she's month to month, give her a 30 day notice. But, most likely, she's on a year lease so I would send her a certified letter, something along the lines of:
"Given the belligerent nature of our emails, phone calls and texts, my lawyer legally requests that we confine all correspondence to written letter unless it is an emergency. By law, I must forward any violations to the proper authorities. Please be guided accordingly."
What do you guys think? --173.63.xxx.xx
Abusive Tenant (by LandlordWhisperer [VA]) Posted on: Nov 27, 2012 1:12 PM
I don't do business via text message....she e-mails or writes a letter * THE OLD FASHIONED way.
You are too easy a target so you need to notify her IN WRITING that you have new communication options and ONLY those options are available to her. --184.5.xxx.x
Abusive Tenant (by Laura [GA]) Posted on: Nov 27, 2012 6:56 PM
Completely agree with Landlord Whisperer. Letters ONLY and do not respond to her calls or texts. --76.97.xx.xxx
Abusive Tenant (by Barbara [VA]) Posted on: Nov 28, 2012 5:21 AM
I guess I have thick skin. I usually laugh at those type of texts, forward them to friends and family. We all have a good laugh over it. I don't respond, and save all texts. If it becomes a problem I will send a calm, direct and proffessional letter such as Lance described. Me personally I leave out the lawyer part. No offence to Lance but I hear the threat myself enough that to me it sounds "ghetto". I actually have access to a lawyer, so I save him as a surprise. --96.225.xxx.xxx
Abusive Tenant (by LandlordWhisperer [VA]) Posted on: Nov 28, 2012 6:23 AM
When a tenant mentions their LAWYER, I suggest they have their LAWYER contact me, I'd be happy to talk to them...SILENCE --184.0.xxx.xxx
Abusive Tenant (by V [OH]) Posted on: Nov 28, 2012 12:36 PM
Leave the tenant some repair forms, this way you can hold costs down by having the correct repair person doing the work, regardless if you are not a fulltime landlord you will still need to understand the rental business the same as a fulltime person regarding court actions and paperwork... --64.134.xxx.xxx
Abusive Tenant (by EXHAUSTED FRIEND [OR]) Posted on: Jan 9, 2014 7:05 PM
I'm feelin' ya! HOLY COW do I feel ya r i g h t now!
I have an aggressive, monster in my house! The crappy part is this:
He and his GF are/were friends in a tight spot. Our last renter/friend moved to Cali in the meanwhile so, we said you can stay with us BUT! You gotta keep your space - 3 bedrooms upstairs- cleaner than you kept your last 3 places...Scary! I should have known as the words left our mouths...uhm..duh...
So now 4 months later we discover the GF is a raging alcoholic with ADD and self medicates with pot and booze!! They know how to seem so innocent. The really nutty thing is
this guy...this angry, must always yell,door slamming,passive aggressive maniac is a mental health counselor!!! Blind leading the blind there.
So EVERY month when we give him the actual bills and a post it with his share...SCREAMING -NAME CALLING - CRAZY SIDE ROADS OF CHARACTER INSULTS and finally STORMING out of the room slamming doors on the way. This last one was a doozy and FINALLY he said...er screamed he's moving out! YAAAAH!!
Trouble is and what sets our guts wrenching all over again
everytime the guy is in the house, let alone in the same room he's charging at us within inches, to where you instinctively put your hands up to block him. He never has verbally threatened violence but, his actions and yelling clearly state..he is gonna hurt you...any second!
We have been dealing with the dive bar bathroom floor smell emanating from there space, The p all around the toilet and floor, the gas stove being left on unattended for hours multiple times but, this emotional abuse and uncomfortable in OUR own home is too much. Good finding protection or prevention BEFORE any physical violence occurs...only after the fact can anything be done.! --184.100.xxx.xx
Abusive Tenant (by Nellie [ME]) Posted on: Jan 10, 2014 5:48 AM
One of our worst tenants was a mental health professional. She couldn't get along with the group home downstairs! We did not renew her lease at the end of the original lease term and couldn't figure out why..... --64.222.xxx.xxx
Abusive Tenant (by Tricia Ihm [WI]) Posted on: Jan 27, 2014 6:51 AM
We have a tenant who is intimating and hostile, bully. We have decided to list the residence he is renting for sale, he said it is HIS HOUSE. We set up an appointment 48 hours ahead to be there with the realtor and myself and husband for market analysis. They let us in and then the renter came from behind me and assaulted me over and over again enough I had to go the ER. I am a 67 year old woman and he physically threw me out of our property it was chaos. My husband is 76 and got between him and me sandwiched between my back and the tenants front and the man would not stop hurting my neck and shoulder. We called the sheriff and the deputies would not arrest him said will go to the DA to decide if is assault. We are having our lawyer on it and I am applying for a restraining order. I knew there would be trouble with him as he actually thinks it is his house. I had a voice activated tape recorder in my pocket and it got all the violent language threats etc. I told the deputies and they said that was legal. I have never heard of anything like this happening. We are afraid of him. --173.209.xxx.xxx