landlord liability (by D. Adams [ID]) Sep 1, 2012 7:08 AM|
landlord liability (by Pattyk [MO]) Sep 1, 2012 7:31 AM
landlord liability (by Tom [FL]) Sep 1, 2012 7:43 AM
landlord liability (by Nicole [PA]) Sep 1, 2012 8:55 AM
landlord liability (by WMH [NC]) Sep 1, 2012 9:01 AM
landlord liability (by Tom [FL]) Sep 1, 2012 10:10 AM
landlord liability (by Smokowna [MD]) Sep 1, 2012 11:01 AM
landlord liability (by Mike45 [NV]) Sep 1, 2012 11:17 AM
landlord liability (by WMH [NC]) Sep 1, 2012 2:31 PM
landlord liability (by Mike45 [NV]) Sep 1, 2012 4:35 PM
landlord liability (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Sep 1, 2012 11:54 PM
landlord liability (by Marie [MO]) Sep 2, 2012 8:42 AM
landlord liability (by Joannie [OH]) Nov 8, 2012 4:27 AM
landlord liability (by s houston [P]) Mar 11, 2013 5:21 PM
landlord liability (by D. Adams [ID]) Posted on: Sep 1, 2012 7:08 AM
municipal water ordinance making landlord liable for tenants' water bill. Anyone changing this type law?
landlord liability (by Pattyk [MO]) Posted on: Sep 1, 2012 7:31 AM
What are the details? Do you mean they can put a lien on your property if the resident doesn't pay? like the sewer company? Or will they not allow the water to be in any other name other than the property owner? --173.157.xxx.xxx
landlord liability (by Tom [FL]) Posted on: Sep 1, 2012 7:43 AM
D Adams of ID, the municpal water authority can be an extremely valuable resource for you as a Landlord.
Have you everycalled the water authority about a prospective tenant to check to see IF they owed any money in previous addresses?
This is a tool that is hidden and many landlords do no use it.
Of course a tenant may have his or her or their name on a water account. However, its worth while to make the call to the water authority or sewage authority. And make your water company your friend IF the water company sees you make the effort to check on your present tenants and prospective tenants they will help you as well. IT saves the water company money. And yes unpaid water bills are lienable to your property this is why you need to be proactive in checking on your prospective tenants if they paid thier water bill and on your present tenants IF they are not paying the water bill. IT may be a clue they are going to leave you stuck with not paying the water and/or sewage bill. --99.56.xx.xxx
landlord liability (by Nicole [PA]) Posted on: Sep 1, 2012 8:55 AM
Tom/FL - lienable utilities are municipality specific. Water is not lienable on any of my properties. Sewer & trash are on all of mine. Some in my area trash isn't but sewer it. A few in my area have electric sergvice that is lienable. --72.95.xx.xxx
landlord liability (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Sep 1, 2012 9:01 AM
In Dare County NC, the water bill is in the name of the property owner.
I cover this by putting it in the lease that Tenant recognizes that the bill is in Landlord's name, but they are responsible for paying the water bill directly to the County. I get the bill, I mail it to them. I get any late notices, I mail it to them. It also says that if service is ever turned off as a result of non-payment, they are responsible for fees incurred to get it turned back on. --173.25.x.xx
landlord liability (by Tom [FL]) Posted on: Sep 1, 2012 10:10 AM
Well it is lienable in the municipal authority I lived while in PA. However since you have lienable sewage/garbage then its a tool to use to find out IF a tenant is paying or not. That's IF they had the sewage bill in their name. My point is use it to your advantage during the screening process. --99.56.xx.xxx
landlord liability (by Smokowna [MD]) Posted on: Sep 1, 2012 11:01 AM
I have that also. Tenants can skip on all the utilities but water...stays with the house.
Meanwhile, in Virginia, if the water and light bill are not paid the town will shut them both off. I could never shut anything off. --173.66.xx.xxx
landlord liability (by Mike45 [NV]) Posted on: Sep 1, 2012 11:17 AM
My water company is able to get a lien on my property is the Tenant does not pay the bill. But they will not tell me if the tenant is running up a large bill, because of privacy concerns. This annoys me a lot, but there is nothing I have been able to figure out to solve the situation.
Leaving the water in my name and then my billing the tenant is not a solution I like, because I can't turn the water off for non-payment! All I can do is evict for non-payment, and I am not sure how my judges will respond to my argument: "Tenant paid me $1,200 on the first of the month, but I applied $240 of it towards the water bill in accordance with the lease, and therefore the tenant paid only $960 of the $1,200 rent."
landlord liability (by WMH [NC]) Posted on: Sep 1, 2012 2:31 PM
That's why my lease says what it does, basically "Water is billed in Landlord's name but Tenant agrees to pay the water department directly for total amount billed by the due date on the bill. If water is ever disconnected for non-payment (please note: this would be the TOWN doing it, not me) then Tenant is responsible for any re-connection fees."
I just take the bill that comes to me, put it in an envelope and send it right to the Tenants. If I get a late bill, I text them and tell them, and then mail them THAT bill. No problems with anyone since I started this system. --173.25.x.xx
landlord liability (by Mike45 [NV]) Posted on: Sep 1, 2012 4:35 PM
@WMH: Sounds like a good system. But if a T fails to pay, and the water is shut off, I am sure the legal aid lawyer will argue that the water was turned off because YOU did not pay the bill and, despite clear language in the lease, will try to make you the villain.
landlord liability (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Sep 1, 2012 11:54 PM
I listened to a great talk about how the govt will be the last to go under - they will simply find new ways to "tax" the people, especially land owners. Sounds like they found a sure fire way to get their money!
Gotta be proactive on this one!
Indiana allows unpaid sewer bills to stay with the land (the owner) as a lien.
At houses where the sewer bill is not connected tot he water bill, we add the sewer bill to their rent each month and send them a copy so they know what we autodrafted.
Know that you cannot shut off the water for non-payment, no matter how you manage this issue.
At first glance, I recommend having the res pay the bill thru you. State the water/sewer bill becomes unpaid rent. You can evict for unpaid rent.
Now the issue of greater exposure for you if they do not pay and you must wait thru eviction process...I would add a water deposit just like the util company but call it Security Deposit so you can apply it however you want.
One local water/sewer co charges $176 deposit.
Please do NOT believe they will pay their bills!
Stinks, but gotta be proactive.
landlord liability (by Marie [MO]) Posted on: Sep 2, 2012 8:42 AM
Landlords in Kansas City, MO have organized to stop this this procedure, recently put in place by City Water Services. Water Dept issued statement about 2-3 years ago saying new rule would require property owners to be ultimately responsible for all water bills. Landlord Group hopped on it immediately and had huge success with getting the City's practice stopped. --64.151.xx.xx
landlord liability (by Joannie [OH]) Posted on: Nov 8, 2012 4:27 AM
My daughter is renting my old house. All bills are in her name, except for the mortage. Our water and sewage bills here are in two different accounts.....one is paid to Aqua Ohio and the other to the city. Am I liable for both of those or just one? And am I liable for her gas, electric, or any other bill? I need to know. I'm new at this and have just gotten notified by sewage company, that she hasnt been paying enough on her bill, and apparently I'm responsible. Where is a good legal online source to use for info on things like this? --71.48.xx.xxx
landlord liability (by s houston [P]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2013 5:21 PM