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Group Homes (by Primus [PA]) Apr 28, 2012 7:15 PM
       Group Homes (by RR [WA]) Apr 28, 2012 8:59 PM
       Group Homes (by Virden [OH]) Apr 28, 2012 9:56 PM
       Group Homes (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Apr 28, 2012 10:42 PM
       Group Homes (by Reid [KS]) Apr 28, 2012 11:04 PM
       Group Homes (by Lee [IN]) Apr 29, 2012 4:05 AM
       Group Homes (by Gail K [GA]) Apr 29, 2012 4:37 AM
       Group Homes (by don [PA]) Apr 29, 2012 10:06 AM
       Group Homes (by Reid [KS]) Apr 29, 2012 4:31 PM
       Group Homes (by don [PA]) Apr 29, 2012 9:43 PM


Group Homes (by Primus [PA]) Posted on: Apr 28, 2012 7:15 PM
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State Specific Question About: PENNSYLVANIA (PA)

I would like my 4 bed 2 bath home to be rented by the group home organizations. How do I go about making my property available for Group home rental? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. --68.82.xxx.xx




Group Homes (by RR [WA]) Posted on: Apr 28, 2012 8:59 PM
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1. Contact your city to see if group homes are allowed by your zoning. Ask if they have any special requirements / licencing for this. It may not be allowed.

2. Contact those "group home organizations" to get the ball rolling.

--24.18.xxx.xxx




Group Homes (by Virden [OH]) Posted on: Apr 28, 2012 9:56 PM
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You will want to inspect every month, it would be desireable to get 2 or 3 times residential security deposit. --99.128.xx.xx




Group Homes (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Apr 28, 2012 10:42 PM
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can be very profitable but they put a lot of wear on the house. --50.129.xxx.xxx




Group Homes (by Reid [KS]) Posted on: Apr 28, 2012 11:04 PM
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Contact your county mental health authority and the local churches someone will know who to speak with. --108.220.xxx.xx




Group Homes (by Lee [IN]) Posted on: Apr 29, 2012 4:05 AM
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A friend of mine rented his out to a group. House was knocked down five years later. He made great money during, but house was pretty bad in the end. --96.31.xxx.xxx




Group Homes (by Gail K [GA]) Posted on: Apr 29, 2012 4:37 AM
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Do you have a VA Medical Center near by? If so, contact the department that handles residential care programs for vets (this would be an outpatient program).

Gail --68.47.xx.x




Group Homes (by don [PA]) Posted on: Apr 29, 2012 10:06 AM
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Re Zoning. I don't have specifics unfortunately, but I remember Jay Lamont (had a radio show in Pa. and NJ about r .e. for 40 years until a few years ago) commenting that there were court cases that said those that live together in group homes (such as the mentally retarded, etc.) were considered a "family" and that those court decisions trumped local ordinances. --166.248.xx.xxx




Group Homes (by Reid [KS]) Posted on: Apr 29, 2012 4:31 PM
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He's something from The DOJ RE: Group homes V Zoning laws

JOINT STATEMENT OF THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT

GROUP HOMES, LOCAL LAND USE, AND THE FAIR HOUSING ACT

Since the federal Fair Housing Act ("the Act") was amended by Congress in 1988 to add protections for persons with disabilities and families with children, there has been a great deal of litigation concerning the Act's effect on the ability of local governments to exercise control over group living arrangements, particularly for persons with disabilities. The Department of Justice has taken an active part in much of this litigation, often following referral of a matter by the Department of Housing and Urban Development ("HUD"). This joint statement provides an overview of the Fair Housing Act's requirements in this area. Specific topics are addressed in more depth in the attached Questions and Answers.

The Fair Housing Act prohibits a broad range of practices that discriminate against individuals on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, national origin, familial status, and disability.(1) The Act does not pre-empt local zoning laws. However, the Act applies to municipalities and other local government entities and prohibits them from making zoning or land use decisions or implementing land use policies that exclude or otherwise discriminate against protected persons, including individuals with disabilities.

The Fair Housing Act makes it unlawful --

To utilize land use policies or actions that treat groups of persons with disabilities less favorably than groups of non-disabled persons. An example would be an ordinance prohibiting housing for persons with disabilities or a specific type of disability, such as mental illness, from locating in a particular area, while allowing other groups of unrelated individuals to live together in that area.

To take action against, or deny a permit, for a home because of the disability of individuals who live or would live there. An example would be denying a building permit for a home because it was intended to provide housing for persons with mental retardation.

To refuse to make reasonable accommodations in land use and zoning policies and procedures where such accommodations may be necessary to afford persons or groups of persons with disabilities an equal opportunity to use and enjoy housing.

What constitutes a reasonable accommodation is a case-by-case determination.

Not all requested modifications of rules or policies are reasonable. If a requested modification imposes an undue financial or administrative burden on a local government, or if a modification creates a fundamental alteration in a local government's land use and zoning scheme, it is not a "reasonable" accommodation.

The disability discrimination provisions of the Fair Housing Act do not extend to persons who claim to be disabled solely on the basis of having been adjudicated a juvenile delinquent, having a criminal record, or being a sex offender. Furthermore, the Fair Housing Act does not protect persons who currently use illegal drugs, persons who have been convicted of the manufacture or sale of illegal drugs, or persons with or without disabilities who present a direct threat to the persons or property of others.

HUD and the Department of Justice encourage parties to group home disputes to explore all reasonable dispute resolution procedures, like mediation, as alternatives to litigation.

DATE: AUGUST 18, 1999

--108.220.xxx.xx




Group Homes (by don [PA]) Posted on: Apr 29, 2012 9:43 PM
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Reid, I was thinking more of a case that allowed unrelated people living together in a group home to be considered a "family." The above says that you can't discriminate against them solely because they are disabled and that they can live together if the zoning laws generally allow unrelated people to live together. However, in Phila., no more than 3 unrelated people may live together in a single family residence. Under the supposed case law the this Jay Lamont talked about, four people living in a disabled group home could reside in a single family residence even though they are not related by blood, adoption, or marriage. --166.248.xx.xx





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