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Application fee? (by Goldie [GA]) Apr 19, 2012 8:44 AM
       Application fee? (by Anon [PA]) Apr 19, 2012 9:11 AM
       Application fee? (by Barb [MO]) Apr 19, 2012 9:25 AM
       Application fee? (by Andrew R. [UT]) Apr 19, 2012 9:32 AM
       Application fee? (by Kyle [IN]) Apr 19, 2012 9:33 AM
       Application fee? (by Ken [NY]) Apr 19, 2012 9:33 AM
       Application fee? (by Jeff [CO]) Apr 19, 2012 10:08 AM
       Application fee? (by Wallace CPM [VA]) Apr 19, 2012 11:40 AM
       Application fee? (by Gail K [GA]) Apr 19, 2012 11:51 AM
       Application fee? (by Mike [TN]) Apr 19, 2012 12:23 PM
       Application fee? (by reid [KS]) Apr 19, 2012 2:09 PM
       Application fee? (by Bill [TX]) Apr 19, 2012 2:26 PM
       Application fee? (by Kirby [IL]) Apr 19, 2012 2:26 PM
       Application fee? (by LL [AZ]) Apr 19, 2012 10:26 PM
       Application fee? (by S i d [MO]) Apr 20, 2012 3:49 AM
       Application fee? (by Jeffrey [VA]) Apr 20, 2012 3:59 AM
       Application fee? (by CTLL [CT]) Apr 20, 2012 6:30 AM
       Application fee? (by Goldie [GA]) Apr 20, 2012 8:04 AM
       Application fee? (by 574-Brad [IN]) Apr 20, 2012 8:33 AM
       Application fee? (by Jeffrey [VA]) Apr 20, 2012 9:12 AM
       Application fee? (by Darlene [PA]) Apr 20, 2012 9:25 AM
       Application fee? (by Patti [OK]) Apr 20, 2012 10:11 AM
       Application fee? (by Patti [OK]) Apr 20, 2012 10:11 AM
       Application fee? (by Ryan [IA]) Apr 20, 2012 11:31 AM
       Application fee? (by DIXIE [KS]) Apr 20, 2012 12:04 PM
       Application fee? (by Doris [NC]) Apr 20, 2012 3:42 PM
       Application fee? (by JoeM [GA]) Apr 20, 2012 5:25 PM
       Application fee? (by Lisa [TX]) Apr 20, 2012 6:24 PM
       Application fee? (by Kathy [OH]) Apr 20, 2012 8:01 PM
       Application fee? (by Mike in San Diego [CA]) Apr 21, 2012 1:01 PM
       Application fee? (by Dave [GA]) Apr 23, 2012 1:15 PM
       Application fee? (by Henry [OH]) Apr 24, 2012 6:24 AM
       Application fee? (by Brett [MD]) Apr 24, 2012 7:26 AM
       Application fee? (by harleymann58 [GA]) Apr 24, 2012 7:38 AM
       Application fee? (by Lisa [SC]) Apr 24, 2012 7:42 AM
       Application fee? (by Honey [LA]) Apr 24, 2012 8:02 AM
       Application fee? (by dsa [PA]) Apr 24, 2012 6:21 PM
       Application fee? (by dsa [PA]) Apr 24, 2012 6:51 PM
       Application fee? (by Richard [MD]) Apr 25, 2012 10:59 AM
       Application fee? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Apr 26, 2012 2:45 PM


Application fee? (by Goldie [GA]) Posted on: Apr 19, 2012 8:44 AM
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Do you charge an application fee? I've read at least 5 books on becoming a landlord, and many recomend charging one. If you do, how much?

Will drive around this week-end and start calling to compare. (dental work done today, can't talk poperly)

Love reading the tips, thanks --72.145.xxx.xxx




Application fee? (by Anon [PA]) Posted on: Apr 19, 2012 9:11 AM
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I charge $30.00 per person and if couple and appears decent $50.00 for both. I do credit check for all the applicants and criminal and eviction report as I feel fit. Sometimes it costs me more but I pay any way. I don't take in to the account of my time and driving expenses. --128.91.xxx.xxx




Application fee? (by Barb [MO]) Posted on: Apr 19, 2012 9:25 AM
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I have on paper that I charge a $45 non-refundable fee per adult to apply.

I waive or lower it under certain circumstances.

My local hospital does criminal background checks on a regular basis. If they work for the hospital and the hospital will release the most recent check to me, I accept it. They send it directly to me on letterhead. If that is the case, I accept their pay stubs as proof of income and show them how to look up their own credit and we go from there. But these are special (collectable!) employees.

University employees are the same, since I know the people in HR and know the U rules. Students sometimes, since I can search the local criminal records online easily and they can provide me with financial aid award letters.

Regular joe off the street who doesn't work for these employers? I have to charge to cover myself. They never argue or if they do, they don't rent from me.

--64.15.xx.xxx




Application fee? (by Andrew R. [UT]) Posted on: Apr 19, 2012 9:32 AM
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I only charge $20 (actual cost to run credit/background check) because I'm smaller and therefore, not much turnover. If I processed at least an average of 4 applicants a month, I would probably make it $25.00. The more applicants and time it takes up I would charge more, up to $35 max. --168.178.xx.xx




Application fee? (by Kyle [IN]) Posted on: Apr 19, 2012 9:33 AM
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I charge the applicant the cost of the credit and background checks. I don't charge for my time. I use the application charge to keep people from applying if they know they won't make the cut. --71.194.xxx.xxx




Application fee? (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Apr 19, 2012 9:33 AM
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I do not charge an application fee and don't check credit,very few where my houses are would have good credit anyway but some will pay rent very well and still have bad credit.I take pay stubs as proof of income,this way I know what they really make not there puffed up estimate or a friend pretending to be a supervisor --67.252.xx.xxx




Application fee? (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Apr 19, 2012 10:08 AM
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I charge what the credit agency charges me. I don't make money on applications. --174.47.xxx.x




Application fee? (by Wallace CPM [VA]) Posted on: Apr 19, 2012 11:40 AM
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Check GA state law FIRST for limits --184.5.xxx.xxx




Application fee? (by Gail K [GA]) Posted on: Apr 19, 2012 11:51 AM
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I'm a landlord in Georgia and I charge $30 as the source I use charges $29.95 for a credit and criminal check.

Gail --152.130.x.xxx




Application fee? (by Mike [TN]) Posted on: Apr 19, 2012 12:23 PM
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$30 for me since the service I use charges about the same.

I would consider not to deposit the $30 if I know the prospect will not pass the background/credit checks, like if she/he tells me on the application form some issues I don't want to deal with. In that case, I'll just hold it till the applicant calls back. Most of the time they don't and I just leave it like that. No check cashed, no bad feelings from both sides.

For us, application fee is used to weeed out the lookers and cover our cost. We will not make money on that. It is not worth to creat bad feelings with a guy who has 20 pages long rap sheet over $30. He already know where your property is and he could go crazy over that $30. --198.51.xxx.xxx




Application fee? (by reid [KS]) Posted on: Apr 19, 2012 2:09 PM
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I only charge what it costs me to do a background/ credit check. It's not a way to make money just to do the business at hand. --108.220.xxx.xx




Application fee? (by Bill [TX]) Posted on: Apr 19, 2012 2:26 PM
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$35 per person over 18 yoa. Married couple, same last name $40.

The fee stops some of the dead beats from wasting any more of my time.

YMMV

Bill [TX]

--71.158.xxx.x




Application fee? (by Kirby [IL]) Posted on: Apr 19, 2012 2:26 PM
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I charge $25, but say that I'll give it back on the first month's rent to whoever passes my checks and moves in.

--130.126.xxx.xxx




Application fee? (by LL [AZ]) Posted on: Apr 19, 2012 10:26 PM
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My application says we charge $45, but in reality like Kathy we don't do it.

Here's how cut-throat it is in our area - a block from some of our apartments, out on the main highway one of the govt subsidized complexes has a sign twirler with a sign that says $199 move-in.

I charge about $1,000. They must have a whole bunch of lawyers for their evictions. --209.183.xx.xx




Application fee? (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2012 3:49 AM
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$15 per potential resident age 18 and older. It cost about $10 to pull credit, and the rest of the checking I do on my own with free services / phoning employers and previous land lords. So I make enough for a sixer of cheap beer, which is usually what I need after some of the apps.

Kidding...I actually get good applicants most of the time. First, I do a "free" phone screening before I show the place, then I take about 60 seconds to look over the app when pick it up from the applicant. Often, I can tell them up front whether or not the deal will work based on what they tell me or write on their app. The $15 just confirms what they say (or denies it).

I do not view it as a profit center like some of the guru books say, but anyone who is worthwhile won't balk as a $15 fee. If your competition isn't charging one, you can alwasy offer to credit it back towards their first month's rent if approved. That way a good applicant isn't out any extra money, but the bad applicants will still be weeded out at no $$$ cost to you. --108.225.xxx.xxx




Application fee? (by Jeffrey [VA]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2012 3:59 AM
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I used to not to credit checks. After now doing them for several years, I would NEVER accept a tenant without first seeing their credit report. Their is so much information potentially that you are not seeing when you don't run a credit report. It's not just a question of whether they have good credit or not.

You can see WHO they are paying and not paying and what is causing the credit to be bad. As you probably know from a landlord's perspective, all creditor's are not as critical as others.

You can see past addresses that you may not see otherwise.

You can see compare recent payment history and judgments to older history and if the credit problems are recent are not.

You can see if social security number even matches the applicant.

You can get a glimpse of lifestyle type payment choices affecting their debt and how much debt they may have which may be otherwise hidden from you and so much more.

There are now so many times that I have extremely thankful and relieved that I ran a credit check on an applicant that I probably would have accepted had I just gone other free information that was available to me.

All I can say folk is I hope the best for those of you continue to play russian roulette with your rentals. But honestly for less than ten bucks (the cost of a credit report), it really does not make sense that you are taking the extra risk of not seeing a credit report before accepting any applicant.

You all know like me, it only takes one wrong selection of a resident and that can cost you thousands if not tens of thousands of dollars. And yet some of you don't think it's worth the ten dollars to run a credit report. Come on.......

When I used to not run a credit report it was because I was naive and simply didn't know better or credit reports was not as easily accessible as they are now.

And because your competition is not doing them is NO excuse. Even if you don't want to charge the applicant, still run the credit report.

Because of competition, at times I often run a "special" - No Application Fee This Week! It's not that qualified applicant's care that you run a credit report. They simply (in some areas) may not want to pay a fee. So don't charge them the fee.... But I say again, RUN the report. YOU are the one with so much potential to lose and cause you're too cheap to run a ten dollar credit report. Friends, this is another classic example of landlords being too frugal for your own good. --70.161.xxx.xxx




Application fee? (by CTLL [CT]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2012 6:30 AM
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I concur completely with Jeffrey.

I want to see if the info on the application matches with the credit report. I want to see what bills they did not pay - especially utilities. I want to see how many charge-off's/write-off's, items in collections, they think they escaped from.

I check my State's judicial-court records on-line just by typing in their names. Discovered more times than I would like to remember of mug shots on the S.O. registry when the guy seemed like the ideal tenant. (Won't allow in my multi-complex where certain tenants always ask about safe & safety issues.)

I seldom check with previous landlords.I take whatever they and applicant says with a grain of salt.

I don't charge an application fee. Charge $20 for "app.processing/cr.ck" fee.

I don't leave the decision to rent on GUT feelings. I'm no longer gullible when tenants paint glowing pics of themselves and say how good a tenant they will be.

Go ahead guys. Don't do the credit checks. Take the advice from many on here who say: EVICT, EVICT, EVICT at the drop of a hat - rent 5 days late = Evict. Maybe your evictions are cheap - but here fees start at $750.00 up front plus lost rent from tenant friendly court system delays as well as all the other expenses that go with a vacant unit.

--72.200.xxx.x




Application fee? (by Goldie [GA]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2012 8:04 AM
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Thanks for all the answers. I'm going to reread them many times! --72.145.xxx.xxx




Application fee? (by 574-Brad [IN]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2012 8:33 AM
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I don't run credit checks. I think all my tenants have bad credit anyways. If I required good credit I wouldn't have any tenants. I can see wanting to check for past evictions, stiffing other LL's. --66.228.xxx.xx




Application fee? (by Jeffrey [VA]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2012 9:12 AM
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574-Brad, as I mentioned above, running a credit report gets me FAR MORE information than just looking to see if applicants have good credit or not. Like you, if I had to always wait on someone having "good" credit, I would still be waiting.

However, a credit report gives so much more info that can help you determine if a resident with "marginal or poor" credit is a bigger risk than others. And yes, there are many factors othr than a credit report that provides some info, by why miss out on what the report can provide.

In today's challenging environment, it's smart to have as much info as you can, especially when the cost is so low. Just comparing what's on the application to what's on the report (and knowing if the applicant is being truthful about their marginal credit) is extremely valuable info you need to know. I don't want residents if it appears they are not truthful, with good or bad credit. --205.188.xxx.x




Application fee? (by Darlene [PA]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2012 9:25 AM
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I always get a signature authorizing a credit and criminal background check, but seldom do it. In more than one case, the authorization has deterred people. our market rents are low and the population is from the beat up steal country with poor to zero credit. So, it would be a waste of money and they wouldn't pay a fee in our area. Even in my Maine places, I do the checks if I am not convinced by my own internet searches and I don't have abundant apps, but still don't charge a fee. I am hoping to invest in more affluent areas where an application fee would be 'normal'. --75.67.xxx.xxx




Application fee? (by Patti [OK]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2012 10:11 AM
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We charge $40 for single per person and $40 for legally married couples and this money goes to someone else to check them out and about 2-3 days waiting. If you do it yourself charge them what it cost you. --24.253.xxx.xxx




Application fee? (by Patti [OK]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2012 10:11 AM
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We charge $40 for single per person and $40 for legally married couples and this money goes to someone else to check them out and about 2-3 days waiting. If you do it yourself charge them what it cost you. --24.253.xxx.xxx




Application fee? (by Ryan [IA]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2012 11:31 AM
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Charging different amounts for a married couple vs a non-married couple is discrimination based on martial status. That would be an open and shut case for fair housing. --205.175.xxx.xx




Application fee? (by DIXIE [KS]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2012 12:04 PM
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Re-read the post from Jeffrey [VA}.

He said it all.

. --166.250.xxx.xxx




Application fee? (by Doris [NC]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2012 3:42 PM
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I charge $40.00 non-refundable for each applicant. This goes towards criminal background and credit and they must sign paperwork allowing me to perform the check. --98.24.x.xx




Application fee? (by JoeM [GA]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2012 5:25 PM
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I am in GA and charge $35 per adult. I have only rented twice so far but no one has complained about the fee. --74.176.xxx.xxx




Application fee? (by Lisa [TX]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2012 6:24 PM
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I'm a new landlord and I can tell you that a credit check saved my hide when I was renting out our house.

I had a couple come in, nice car, dressed well. They talked all about how great the house was, he's handy and won't bother us needing to fix things, etc. I was falling for it! I really liked them. So asked them if I would find anything on the credit check that I need to know upfront. No, they don't have good credit but no current problems - all in the past. OK, I told them I'm not looking for perfect, just need to see that you haven't had recent delinquencies and are currently up to date.

Wow! what a shock to me when I pulled the report. In the last 2 years a truck repo, 90-120 days late on multiple furniture accounts, and they had just taken out a pay day loan a month before. That woke me up fast. Told them a quick NO.

Week later and I have our current tenants apply. told me upfront they had bad score because of old student loan debt and a few old loans but they were current on everything. They had about the same score as the first couple (not great at all) but their story was true and they had been current on everything in the last 2 years. No charge cards or car loans. They have worked out pretty good. Late a few times but always get the $$ + late fee on payday. They take good care of the place too.

I am so glad I pulled the credit reports! --70.116.xx.xxx




Application fee? (by Kathy [OH]) Posted on: Apr 20, 2012 8:01 PM
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Just as an update to my previous response, I do agree with Jeffrey on the value of a credit report, and we used to do credit reports for low cost through our local landlord association. About 10 years ago we stopped doing that, because so much information is now available online, both criminal and eviction records from our local courts. Most applicants are born and raised in this town, and many do not venture far from the neighborhood in which they grew up. It is more important to me that they show a stable, steady employment with sufficient income, no prior eviction filings, and no criminal history. --66.61.xx.xxx




Application fee? (by Mike in San Diego [CA]) Posted on: Apr 21, 2012 1:01 PM
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$25 app fee. If they answer my verbal questions well (good credit, no evictions, 3x rent in income, etc) I tell them that I will debit the $25 on their first month's rent if what they told me was true. The twenty five bucks isn't important to me, but the barrier to application is, I don't want anybody with a pencil to drop off an app and then have me spend $10 and five days chasing them down to tell them they're approved, only to never get a call back.

--174.65.xx.xxx




Application fee? (by Dave [GA]) Posted on: Apr 23, 2012 1:15 PM
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I charge $25. I agree with Jeffrey and Lisa. I don't require 'good credit' and I tell them up front that it's not required. This day and age a LOT of people don't have 'good credit'. But, as pointed out, you find out a lot and find out if they're at least being somewhat truthful. I think having them sign on the application that a check will be run is sometimes enough, even if you don't run the check.

Stating that accepted applicants will get the fee refunded off the first month's rent also helps to week out the 'insincere' and 'lookers'. Some RE management/tenant search outfits in my area charge $75! I don't know how they get any applicants!

I think I also agree with calling it a 'processing fee' instead of application fee. --99.16.xxx.xxx




Application fee? (by Henry [OH]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2012 6:24 AM
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Has anyone had potential Tenants pull their own credit report and provide a copy? They can get a free copy once per year, something like freecreditreport.com. --135.245.x.x




Application fee? (by Brett [MD]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2012 7:26 AM
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I have found that an application fee is the single best screening tool out there. I charge $25. Before I charged one, I would run credit report after credit report and most of them would be bad. Everyone would fill out the application. Prospects would tell me their credit was fine and it often was not. After I started charging a fee, most of the reports now come back good and those with something to hide, won't pay the fee. I will accept lower credit but with cossigners on more money up front to mitigate - I explain this up front. Those willing to take those steps, tend to work out. I also run a criminal back ground report - I have often been surprised. I check references as well and make sure that previous addresses/landlords align with the tax records. I have had people fake prior addresses using friends posing as landlords.

I would not accept a tenant's free report. Instead, offer to refund the fee as part of the first month's rent. I have seen people try to fake the free report as well. If they believe they are a strong applicant and they want to live there, they will take that risk. If one of the above is not true, they won't make good tenants.

I have only gotten burned when I short cutt the process or lowered my standards. Another week or month of vacancy would have always been better. Lower rent is also cheaper than a bad tenant.

I only do month to month leases as well. I lock the rents for a year, but not the term. I have actually never raised a tenant's rent even after 5 years - I raise it on turnover. The month to month lease ensures that the tenant has skin in the game. I explain that if for any reason, one of us is not happy, we are out 30 days later - no questions asked. Since I am in the business of keeping places rented, I have no motivation to terminate leases without cause. Again, the good tenants like the freedom of this clause, the bad ones are more hesitant. I also confirm their desired length of stay since I don't want a lot of turnover. I favor people who are looking for a longer term situation, even though my lease is month to month. --70.39.xxx.xx




Application fee? (by harleymann58 [GA]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2012 7:38 AM
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Time is money!! I charge $25.00. If they are local, I call our county magistrate court to get the eviction history if they have one. If they are new to the area I run a credit check and sometimes a criminal background. Credit check is about $5.00, criminal background $10. It is amazing the people that will fill out an application, pay the fee and never rent a place. I have four on my desk from last week. That's $100 folks!! --108.129.xxx.xxx




Application fee? (by Lisa [SC]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2012 7:42 AM
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I do a credit report every time. I charge $25.00 and you can get this service just about anywhere. Your broker, postlets.com.... It is very important, as stated in the article, to run one every time. --71.76.xx.xxx




Application fee? (by Honey [LA]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2012 8:02 AM
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We all have to remember one thing: TESTERS!!! HUD hires people to go looking for discrepancies, better known as discrimination, in a Landlord's method of application process. If we provide a written list of requiments that is offered to all who inquire about our available property, and all are treated equally,as per written list, we ought not have trouble.

Same (written) policy for ALL. Makes Life easier. --68.225.xx.xx




Application fee? (by dsa [PA]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2012 6:21 PM
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We do not collect an application fee. However, we do require a commitment fee of one months rent before accepting an application as complete. When the application is approved - the commitment fee becomes the security deposit at risk if a lease agreement is not completed in a timely manor. We have never had anyone not complete the lease agreement after sending in their commitment fee but, language in the application tells them that the commitment fee is at risk if they do not complete the lease agreement and take the rental. --98.237.xx.xx




Application fee? (by dsa [PA]) Posted on: Apr 24, 2012 6:51 PM
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--98.237.xx.xx




Application fee? (by Richard [MD]) Posted on: Apr 25, 2012 10:59 AM
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We rent to low end applicants but do require a $25 processing fee per adult and rebate up to $50 on there first months rent. We do credit checks from 2 bureaus through the Mr. Landlord site. This requires an inspection and pictures of our office. I think it is annually but am not sure as my wife handles that and I am not in the office. We do a criminal check first and weed out most.

I tell people up front that if they have any problems disclose them to me and I can tell them if it is a problem so long as they are completely truthful. I also tell them we realize most people have credit problems but if they tell me what they are I will tell them up front if its a problem. Many have medical bills and this is not a problem for us.

We also review all applications with the applicant before taking the processing fee and do weed out many. Credit checks are well worth the money for the information you get. We also check the land records of there past Landlords to see if we are getting the true owner.

--74.96.x.xxx




Application fee? (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Apr 26, 2012 2:45 PM
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Yikes: several remarks are illegal! The LL cannot pick and choose who pays, or who gets checked. If you charge one, you must charge them all.

No fee here. I want apps - tons and tons of apps!

This is 2012. Most people do not have checks and the rest don't carry checks. To require a $XX check with an app instantly turns away many good applicants. My high-income 27 yr old son commented "I haven't written a check since high school!"

(See also: in a minute I'll post about SQUARE.com)

We do the free stuff first, before incurring the expense of a credit report - pay stubs, LL references, drive-by, Google, Facebook, newspaper archives, online court records. Weeds out many in minutes.

(In Indiana, thru our LL assoc, we have access to online court records throughout the state, so we can look for evictions and in-state criminal offenses for free.)

THEN we pull credit on the ones who make it this far.

CRs are valuable and necessary in the LL toolbox. We use them and recommend them. The more you know, the better decisions. Knowledge is power and profit.

BUT...use the info wisely. The CR is just one more of many PEEKS into their activities. It is not the entire picture. Use it in combination with the other tools available.

Know that many evictions do not make it to the the CR, and the CR info can be 90 days old. A CR free of evictions does NOT mean they were never evicted. It simply means no one reported it, or the CR agency deemed it too small, or the LL did not follow the court process all the way to a judgment, like when they skip or LL decides the T is not worth pursuing.

The addresses are only what other creditors have reported.

FreeCreditReport.com is a rip off and not free.

Free tip: make certain your app form says "can check credit and references AT ANY TIME".

Helps finding them later!

Challenge: pull CRs (with proper written permission on your app) and learn more about your existing tenants. Could be in for a surprise!

--50.129.xxx.xxx





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