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No Smoking (by Doug [OH]) Feb 7, 2012 3:24 AM
       No Smoking (by S i d [MO]) Feb 7, 2012 6:00 AM
       No Smoking (by Jo [CT]) Feb 7, 2012 7:01 AM
       No Smoking (by Virden [OH]) Feb 7, 2012 8:53 AM
       No Smoking (by Jeff [CO]) Feb 7, 2012 9:04 AM
       No Smoking (by Frank [NJ]) Feb 7, 2012 9:07 AM
       No Smoking (by Jeff [CO]) Feb 7, 2012 9:09 AM
       No Smoking (by Wilma [PA]) Feb 8, 2012 11:05 AM

No Smoking (by Doug [OH]) Posted on: Feb 7, 2012 3:24 AM

I'm thinking about having a no smoking clause in my lease. Smart or dumb? Thanks, Doug the new guy.

No Smoking (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Feb 7, 2012 6:00 AM

Fine concept. How do you plan to enforce it?

Be aware you will eliminate a huge portion of your potential market. I have a 'no smoking indoors' clause. I enforce it with: if I smell smoke when you move out, I repaint and deodorize on your security deposit's dime.

No Smoking (by Jo [CT]) Posted on: Feb 7, 2012 7:01 AM

I too agree that it is difficult to enforce no smoking. I always say to please not smoke in the apartment and especially do not throw buts in the yard.

The problem arises when the tenant's friends litter the yard with butts. Now, as a result of everyone's help here, I post a 24 hour clean up notice, or there is a charge to the apartment.

I will put this clause in all my new leases and verbally stress this point at lease signing. THE TENANTS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR FRIEND'S ACTIONS.

No Smoking (by Virden [OH]) Posted on: Feb 7, 2012 8:53 AM

Virden[OH] attempted: --It only works in my areas when you have fines that monies apply to damages before rent, make sure your court supports this first and you will have to follow the Ohio 30 day rules.

No Smoking (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Feb 7, 2012 9:04 AM

Smoking does nothing to add value to a building.

All of my applicants certify that they don't smoke. All leases specify that smoking isn't allowed anywhere on the property.

Violations for in-lease tenants results in a 3-day notice and lease non-renewal.

Month to month tenants are given a 3-day notice AND a notice to quit at the end of the next month.

I have always wondered why a smoker would chose to live in a non-smoking building, especially when most buildings have no such policy.

When it comes to filling vacancies, we have no problems there. Most applicants are there specifically because we don't allow smoking.

No Smoking (by Frank [NJ]) Posted on: Feb 7, 2012 9:07 AM

IMOit would be to your benefit as it could reduce turnover costs & damage.

No Smoking (by Jeff [CO]) Posted on: Feb 7, 2012 9:09 AM

That's another good point, Frank. No burned carpets, the chance of accidental fires is reduced, less need to paint, etc.

And so far no prospective tenant has been upset that there isn't the aroma of stale smoke! :)

No Smoking (by Wilma [PA]) Posted on: Feb 8, 2012 11:05 AM

Another reason that it is smart is that people with allergies will be happy to rent from you. My current tenants have a couple of kids with multiple allergies AND asthma, and were thrilled to find a place where no smokers OR pets had been. I find they tend to stay put longer, and don't squawk about modest rent increases.

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