House electric meter (by Deb S [RI]) Dec 13, 2011 10:14 AM|
House electric meter (by RR [WA]) Dec 13, 2011 10:23 AM
House electric meter (by RR [WA]) Dec 13, 2011 10:27 AM
House electric meter (by Opinionated [NC]) Dec 13, 2011 10:41 AM
House electric meter (by Deb S [RI]) Dec 13, 2011 10:44 AM
House electric meter (by TenantWhisperer [MA]) Dec 13, 2011 10:49 AM
House electric meter (by Reid [KS]) Dec 13, 2011 10:55 AM
House electric meter (by Deb S [RI]) Dec 13, 2011 10:57 AM
House electric meter (by S i d [MO]) Dec 13, 2011 11:19 AM
House electric meter (by Robert J [CA]) Dec 13, 2011 11:21 AM
House electric meter (by Don [DE]) Dec 13, 2011 11:26 AM
House electric meter (by gevans [SC]) Dec 13, 2011 12:42 PM
House electric meter (by LL [AZ]) Dec 13, 2011 3:36 PM
House electric meter (by Deb S [RI]) Dec 13, 2011 7:33 PM
House electric meter (by LL [AZ]) Dec 13, 2011 11:50 PM
House electric meter (by Lynn [MA]) Dec 14, 2011 9:31 AM
House electric meter (by handyman [OH]) Dec 18, 2011 7:54 PM
House electric meter (by Deb S [RI]) Dec 19, 2011 6:01 AM
House electric meter (by Deb S [RI]) Posted on: Dec 13, 2011 10:14 AM
State Specific Question About: RHODE ISLAND (RI)
First, thank to all of you for the invaluable info provided here. It has been extremely useful! I'm hoping someone has a suggestion for me.
I own a 3 family house. Each unit has it's own furnace and it's own electric meter. There is also a house meter. One of my tenants (2nd floor) recently had Verizon service installed and the 'equipment' is mounted near the ceiling in my basement and plugged into an electric outlet that is connected to the house meter.
I bought the building with this tenant already in it and we do not have a good relationship (pays rent late, screams in your face, slams door on you, etc). So, asking her to have Verizon move it probably won't work.
What can I legally do? Thanks in advance for any advice! Deb
House electric meter (by RR [WA]) Posted on: Dec 13, 2011 10:23 AM
I would eat this since we are probably talking about pennies for the electric cost.
But I would be seriously thinking about replacing her because of the other problems, if they have been ongoing and/or cause problems with other good tenants and/or are causing you to lose money.
House electric meter (by RR [WA]) Posted on: Dec 13, 2011 10:27 AM
Also, if you are really worried about this, you can install a Kill-A-Watt device (online or Home Depot) which will track the power used by that device and then you can bill her for the power.
It may not be feasible for Verizon to move the equipment since they probably want to keep it at the demarcation point in the utility area instead of in the tenant's unit..Or maybe they are just being lazy, who knows.
House electric meter (by Opinionated [NC]) Posted on: Dec 13, 2011 10:41 AM
Verizon is not in my area. What does Verizon offer that uses house power? --66.44.xxx.xxx
House electric meter (by Deb S [RI]) Posted on: Dec 13, 2011 10:44 AM
I thought it would be minimal also until I got this month's electric bill - the kwh more than doubled. --12.15.xxx.xx
House electric meter (by TenantWhisperer [MA]) Posted on: Dec 13, 2011 10:49 AM
If a tenant is disrespectful as you say, just smile and make plans to evict in February.
Why February? Time to have them served, get into court, have them finally moved out = around April.
The spring is the best time to rent an apartment in New England. --199.46.xxx.xxx
House electric meter (by Reid [KS]) Posted on: Dec 13, 2011 10:55 AM
Maybe this spring it'll be time to " clean House" I'd call verizon myself and tell them to come move their equipment cause they are misappropriating your electricity. Give 72 hrs. --99.103.xxx.xxx
House electric meter (by Deb S [RI]) Posted on: Dec 13, 2011 10:57 AM
Verizon offers TV/Internet/Phone service. This tenant has TV service at least if not other stuff. My primary residence has my Verizon equipment in the basement also which then goes out to a box mounted on the outside of the house. I assume Verizon puts the equipment in a reachable location so they don't have to cart around/climb 20 ft ladders when a 2nd or 3rd floor apt wants service? --12.15.xxx.xx
House electric meter (by S i d [MO]) Posted on: Dec 13, 2011 11:19 AM
Even TV, Internet and Phone draws minimal power. I think the last time I looked at my wide screen it draws less than 2 amps. Internet is a fraction of an amp for a DSL modem and router. Phones are low enough to run off batteries. Your total increase shouldn't be more than $4 - $5 a month.
There's something fishy going on if your bill doubled. I second the thought of installing a killowatt meter. Or someone may have tapped into house power somehow? Could tenants be running their grow lights (for a little home-made Mary Jane)...??? --208.70.xxx.x
House electric meter (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Dec 13, 2011 11:21 AM
I had a simular problem. First I used a small digital plug in power meter and measured the tenants equipment use. It came to $3.15 per month based on 35 watts of power (Charge back up battery and provide power for the system). I sent a letter to my tenant to please include this power use from the House Meter with their next rent check. The tenant refused and sent only her next rent check. I then contacted the owners of the system and alerted them to the issues. My next step, unplug the system.
When the tenant came home you couldn't imagine how mad she was. I told her stealing power is a crime and I could have pressed charges against her, instead I tried to work out a resonable solution and she refused. The next day I receivd a check for $100, to cove the power use for the next 2-1//2 years. --173.58.xxx.xxx
House electric meter (by Don [DE]) Posted on: Dec 13, 2011 11:26 AM
Don't sweat it. Verizon only plugged in a small battery charger to keep a small battery charged if the power goes out so the phone will still work for a day or two. It might cost you a dime a month. --184.18.xx.xxx
House electric meter (by gevans [SC]) Posted on: Dec 13, 2011 12:42 PM
Non issue to me. I have bigger fish to fry. --141.129.x.xx
House electric meter (by LL [AZ]) Posted on: Dec 13, 2011 3:36 PM
Our apts have house meters. I have locking plugs, and other exterior plugs I capped off. If I were to find something bootlegged into house power I would cut the cord and secure the power recepticle.
It is stealing power.
I even have the laundry going into locking plugs to keep them from unplugging the washer and using the power for god knows what.
If there is some reason for them to use house power and you wish to allow it, I would have a separate agreement with a reasonable fee for the service.
By the same token sometimes it is more conveneint for me to plug tools into a residents patio power. If I do I ask and explain that it's just for a few moments or whatever, or if it's more I buy them a pizza or something. Generally I just run a long extension cord. --76.170.xxx.xxx
House electric meter (by Deb S [RI]) Posted on: Dec 13, 2011 7:33 PM
Thanks for all the input everyone. I guess at this time of year I should monitor my electric bill and think about next steps come Jan/Feb like someone else suggested. In the spring it is certainly easier to fill a vacancy.
LL - I never even knew there was such a thing as locking plugs! Is this something you can get at Home Depot or Lowes? I guess there is something for everything you might need - then again who knew there would be a need for a device to stop people from stealing your power!! Thanks again everyone. Deb --108.34.xxx.xxx
House electric meter (by LL [AZ]) Posted on: Dec 13, 2011 11:50 PM
Yes, you can get fixtures that screw onto the existing junction boxes and have covers that can be padlocked, with the legal wires running out a small hole in the bottom.
Ask the guy in the elect dept.
Someone can pry it apart with a big screwdriver but then they are breaking the law.
For about $20 there is a great brass locking water spigot cap. We have that on our outside water. Stops the free car wash business. --76.170.xxx.xxx
House electric meter (by Lynn [MA]) Posted on: Dec 14, 2011 9:31 AM
I had the same issue with Verizon taking up my house meter outlets in the basement. I had outlets installed under each tenant's electric panel installed and now Verizon usess their power and not mine. It cost about $15 in materials to do this and about a half hour. --38.125.xx.xx
House electric meter (by handyman [OH]) Posted on: Dec 18, 2011 7:54 PM
You state that each tenant has their own meter and heat source, so what does the house meter cover? Can you turn it off at a switch or breaker and deny access to the switch or breaker? Wouldn't think it would be a legal problem as you are not turning off their electric or heat. --107.8.xx.xxx
House electric meter (by Deb S [RI]) Posted on: Dec 19, 2011 6:01 AM
Handyman - the house meter runs the lights in the stairway inside the building, outside motion lights, basement lights & power. The outlet they are plugged into is really for the coin-op washer & dryer. The washer uses 1 outlet and the other is open - which now has a surge protector plugged into it and Verizon equipment plugged into the surge protector.
I'm looking at having additional outlets installed for each floor as someone else suggested on this forum. Then each floor's equipment can be plugged into their own outlet. Thanks for the ideas! --12.15.xxx.xx