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non speaking tenant (by jean P [MN]) Oct 30, 2011 5:04 AM
       non speaking tenant (by Jean [MN]) Oct 30, 2011 5:06 AM
       non speaking tenant (by Doris [NC]) Oct 30, 2011 6:35 AM
       non speaking tenant (by bet [MA]) Oct 30, 2011 8:32 AM
       non speaking tenant (by Erin [FL]) Oct 30, 2011 8:42 AM
       non speaking tenant (by Reid [KS]) Oct 30, 2011 9:04 AM
       non speaking tenant (by Joe [MI]) Oct 30, 2011 9:12 AM
       non speaking tenant (by Moshe [CA]) Oct 30, 2011 10:43 AM
       non speaking tenant (by Opinionated [NC]) Oct 30, 2011 11:06 AM
       non speaking tenant (by Larry [MN]) Oct 30, 2011 12:10 PM
       non speaking tenant (by LL [AZ]) Oct 30, 2011 12:18 PM
       non speaking tenant (by Curious The George [NC]) Oct 31, 2011 4:29 AM

non speaking tenant (by jean P [MN]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2011 5:04 AM

State Specific Question About: MINNESOTA (MN)

I am trying to rent out my house/apartment. A hmong family came to inquire and has been back 3 times, no down payment no deposit inquiry. I told them all 3 times the application has to be filled out before I can rent to them. And all 3 times they come back with just their name and phone number, no references, nothing.

I would think that I would pass them up but they have been at their job for one year. what do you think? --97.92.xx.xx

non speaking tenant (by Jean [MN]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2011 5:06 AM

non english speaking~ should I try to find someone to translate the application? --97.92.xx.xx

non speaking tenant (by Doris [NC]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2011 6:35 AM

I would. My husband has an assistant in his electrical business who is Hmong and they are very reliable and dependable people. Very hardworking too. Maybe you can find out if they have been sponsored by a local church in your area and you can find someone to translate there. As always, due your due diligence and screen them as you would anyone else. --98.24.x.xx

non speaking tenant (by bet [MA]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2011 8:32 AM

1st tenant test is compliance. They failed. You asked them to fill out application. They refused. Sorry but I put the applicant thru a couple of com pliancy hurdles to test compliance and those that pass tend to be good tenants.

non speaking tenant (by Erin [FL]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2011 8:42 AM

They took the application with them THREE separate times. If they really don't speak english at all, then they certainly should have taken the application to someone who could help them in that amount of time. If they can't even fill out the application, how are they ever going to understand the lease and how are you ever going to communicate with them for repairs or other problems? I wonder if a signed lease from them would even be held up in court since they obviously wouldn't be able to understand anthing on it. I would not consider renting to them. It is bad enough with families that you have to rely on a child to interpret for the adults. This family doesn't have a single person that can interpret for them. You plan on paying for an interpreter for them for all communication ever needed?

non speaking tenant (by Reid [KS]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2011 9:04 AM

The Vietnam war has been over since 1975 If they are playing that" I speakie no english" too Dam bad . Time for them to get with the program . I bet if you owed them money their language skills would vastly improve like immediately. Been there done that. --99.151.xx.xx

non speaking tenant (by Joe [MI]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2011 9:12 AM

Google hmong, you will get a lot of interesting information about these people.

non speaking tenant (by Moshe [CA]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2011 10:43 AM

If they cannot understand the application, then how do you expect them to understand the lease?

In CA, if any negotiation over the lease is conducted in a language other than English, then the lease must be translated into that language.


non speaking tenant (by Opinionated [NC]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2011 11:06 AM

While they intended no harm, a group of Hmong moved into my area. They knew NOTHING about modern appliances nor plumbing. Ruined the place and nearly burned it down.

non speaking tenant (by Larry [MN]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2011 12:10 PM

Talk to the kids. I guarantee they speak fluent English. They are also used to speaking for their parents and are likely surprisingly mature.

I have a Somali family as tenants and I communicate almost exclusively with the children. They speak perfect accent free English.

non speaking tenant (by LL [AZ]) Posted on: Oct 30, 2011 12:18 PM

When I worked as a journalist I met several men who had worked with the Hmong during and after the war. I believe some are STILL arriving as refugees.

However, as I understand it there is a whole support network for them. If they are legitimate they or their sponsors would have an interpreter. Like hispanics, often the younger kids act as the go-between as the older people fail to assimilate into American life.

In CA if you conduct negotiations in a language other than english, you have to translate the lease into the other language.

Also, I'd have to review my Business 101 on this, but I think a contract that someone is incapable of understanding is void even if they aren't incapacitated.

My guess is this group had a falling out with their sponsor, or they have been here a while and are using the "no speaky tha ingles" routine to try to get one over on you because they have destroyed property after property.

If they have lived here and worked on a job for a year, they know they need to bring an interpreter, and they are either on or know where to access public assistance. (Also in CA the interperter must be over 18, so having a 10 year old translate is not acceptable.)

Also be aware that while they may seem to be very nice people, you are not going to be renting to a family, but a whole klan. These are merely the front crew to wedge the door open.

There is more to this than what you are seeing. Watch out for a HUD sting or set-up.

non speaking tenant (by Curious The George [NC]) Posted on: Oct 31, 2011 4:29 AM

If they didn't indicate to you that they don't understand the application and need it translated I would reject them now. It's not up to you to ferret out information that should be on the application.

If it is a HUD set up and you reject because of an incomplete application you have justification. If they said they don't understand the application and need it translated then you have an issue.

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