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Awful tenants next door (by CarolJ [CA]) Mar 28, 2011 6:27 PM
       Awful tenants next door (by Chris [CA]) Mar 28, 2011 7:02 PM
       Awful tenants next door (by LL [AZ]) Mar 28, 2011 7:21 PM
       Awful tenants next door (by Reid [KS]) Mar 28, 2011 8:17 PM
       Awful tenants next door (by CarolJ [CA]) Mar 28, 2011 8:40 PM
       Awful tenants next door (by CarolJ [CA]) Mar 28, 2011 8:49 PM
       Awful tenants next door (by Reid [KS]) Mar 28, 2011 9:06 PM
       Awful tenants next door (by Cat [WI]) Mar 28, 2011 9:30 PM
       Awful tenants next door (by CarolJ [CA]) Mar 28, 2011 10:10 PM
       Awful tenants next door (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Mar 28, 2011 10:54 PM
       Awful tenants next door (by Chris [CA]) Mar 29, 2011 4:21 AM
       Awful tenants next door (by Roy [AL]) Mar 29, 2011 7:15 AM
       Awful tenants next door (by CarolJ [CA]) Mar 29, 2011 8:54 AM
       Awful tenants next door (by Mike45 [NV]) Mar 29, 2011 12:56 PM
       Awful tenants next door (by CarolJ [CA]) Mar 29, 2011 2:19 PM
       Awful tenants next door (by Ken [NY]) Mar 29, 2011 2:19 PM
       Awful tenants next door (by Robert J [CA]) Mar 29, 2011 3:08 PM
       Awful tenants next door (by Virden [OH]) Mar 29, 2011 7:19 PM
       Awful tenants next door (by CarolJ [CA]) Mar 30, 2011 7:27 AM
       Awful tenants next door (by sdf [SD]) Mar 30, 2011 10:35 AM
       Awful tenants next door (by Virden [OH]) Mar 30, 2011 10:51 AM
       Awful tenants next door (by Wilma [PA]) Mar 30, 2011 11:45 AM
       Awful tenants next door (by Gwen [OH]) Mar 31, 2011 4:55 AM
       Awful tenants next door (by CarolJ [CA]) Mar 31, 2011 5:21 PM
       Awful tenants next door (by Nancy [MN]) Oct 25, 2011 1:23 PM
       Awful tenants next door (by Cindy [CA]) Mar 22, 2012 7:29 PM
       Awful tenants next door (by Cindy [CA]) Mar 22, 2012 7:37 PM
       Awful tenants next door (by Wendy [NC]) Mar 23, 2012 3:49 PM


Awful tenants next door (by CarolJ [CA]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2011 6:27 PM
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I've been reading this site off and on for several years and you always have good advice.

We are accidental landlords and I've never been shy about stating that.

The problem I have now is our own home where we live is next door to a rental house. The landlord is absentee since he lives out of state. He rented to a family who told him they had 6(!) kids but they actually had 8 and lied to him. Fine, OK, not my business.

However, they now have at least 2 more people living there, they now have 3 dogs that bark all.night.long and disturb ours and my elderly father's sleep. Police won't even come out for that because you have to file a complaint with animal control. No, I'm not kidding.

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Their new relatives or whatever they are who moved in have 2 more dogs which they leave sometimes in their vehicle that is parked at the street. The kids have thrown stuff like rocks and eggs at our property and their father (?) makes excuses when we've attempted to let him know it has to stop. They're noisy, the house looks trashy and they have 3 very old and junky limousines parked across the front, side by side. Evidently even though they have no license plates and haven't been moved for more than a month, that's A-OK with the city and the police department.

The neighbors have had it and one of them called the LL about a week ago. The guy knows he has a problem with them but he simply doesn't care that the rest of our very nice neighborhood is suffering. He mentioned that code enforcement and the police have called him but otherwise didn't indicate he's booting them out.

What are the neighbors' options regarding these problem tenants? I would like to have an attorney write the LL a letter so there is proof that he's been notified about how bad the problem is but can anyone advise the best course of action. I don't mean I am asking for legal advice, but what would you do if you lived with neighbors who are tenants like these and a LL who really doesn't seem to care.

I should mention they've already played the race card. The problem with that is the people who lived there before them were the same race as they are and everyone in the neighborhood loved them because they were perfect neighbors. Alas, they were military and moved on after 2 years.

I wish I was making this up but I'm not. Josh from Long Beach and Jim from O.C. (Yorba Linda/Placentia? somewhere up that way) may remember me so you know I'm not a troll. Does anyone in the Long Beach/O.C. area have a decent attorney they could recommend?

Thanks,

CarolJ

--64.34.xxx.xx




Awful tenants next door (by Chris [CA]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2011 7:02 PM
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while I had a no pets policy, a friend ran a MHP as PM. He had some noisy dogs issues and quickly and aggressively resolved them. Q: You need your sleep, or else you will have a headache, perform badly and become ill. apart from the other stuff - soon a window may get broken.

Get the city involved - after you meet with all other interested party. You ALONE might be ignored, but when a dozen people call Animal Control and Code Enforcement in a single day and then follow up with the city manager, you can bet there will be a file on these people.

Meanwhile, educate yourself. What is the number of BRs in that house? Is there overcrowding? Is it a case for CPS? Are those cars parked on the street?

Check for videos. British councils have major ant* s*cial issues and they videotape the offenders.

At some point, such people move on - stay in touch with their LL. Are they getting a government grant or subsidy?

If this is getting out of hand, i would go after the owner, too. (I had such a situation, across from my 4-plex was the HQ of drugs distribution in 29 Palms. My tenants in a 6-plex down the street were pestered as well. They made long distance calls on an old lady's phone etc. The landlady must have stopped caring as there were maybe 15 people in that SFH. And one could see them deliver drugs like dial a pizza with teenagers doing delivery on bicycles). We TIP had the best effect, cops wrote down their ID a few days after the call. --101.108.xxx.xxx




Awful tenants next door (by LL [AZ]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2011 7:21 PM
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Don't bother with a letter. A letter isn't going to fix this unless you fax it to him. Get together with your other neighbors and file a nuisance lawsuit for damages against the property owner and the tenants. And maybe against the city if you can find an angle.

Call the Durringer Law Group (google them) they are eviction lawyers and members of the OC Apt Assoc. If they can't handle a case they can probably refer you.

Also call your city councilman and if necessary get some neighbors and GO to a council meeting.

The problem with animal control is they are all dog owners, so they dislike taking action unless forced.

I believe in the county if you get several people together to document dog bark you can get action. There was something in the Register about it awhile back - they maintain a library and you can get back articles.

Good luck. --76.170.xxx.xxx




Awful tenants next door (by Reid [KS]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2011 8:17 PM
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You might also call the LL and in a non confrontational way just explain your concerns . He may very well like to do something but as you know that's easier said than done in his situation.

If your PD told you to call animal control you should have done so ASAP .

Since you are yourself a LL you might offer to help your LL neighbor your assistance in helping screen and show the house to new tenants should he get rid of the present bad tenants? "If we don't hang together we'll hang seperately" (LOL) --99.72.xxx.xxx




Awful tenants next door (by CarolJ [CA]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2011 8:40 PM
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Let me say thank you for your replies first before thinking about this situation makes me forget my manners.

The house is a SFH with 4 bedrooms. I would estimate it is 1440 sq. ft as I used to own one that same model and I believe that is accurate, so not a large house. The original man, woman and 8 children seem to me to be pushing the overcrowding issue. Now there is another lady, who frankly looks like she's wacko, and another older boy about 18 y.o. When I spoke to the police department I asked them wasn't there an issue with overcrowding and she told me that there isn't anything they will do and that people need to have somewhere to live. I will attempt to check with the city to see if that is correct. So we're talking about 12 people, 5+dogs, 6 vehicles including the trailer. No, 7 vehicles because they have one old thing in the garage that doesn't run. These homes have 2.5 car garages so plenty of room for two cars.

From my reading, it says that 3 dogs maximum are allowed in this city but the good neighbor on the other side said code enforcement told her that it was 4. We heard the great news yesterday that the female puppy (not even a year old yet) is pregnant. So that makes 3 dogs, one being pregnant, and then the extra 2 that the visitor who surely looks to be living there has and which she kept in her van for several days because some of us saw them and heard them. The police told me the next time we see the animals left in the van to call them but I haven't been able to catch them again to call. Maybe they saw us looking in the window of the van and talking so they removed them to the inside. Anyway, that makes 4 dogs plus the one who will be having puppies who knows when so a total of 5 right now. The three original dogs are large and they bark very loudly. I have dual paned windows and can hear them on the other side of my house. The lots here are not big, only 60 x 100 so you can imagine dogs barking would be a problem.

The car situation is these houses are configured with a driveway that comes up the front of the house and turns 90 degrees into the garage. They have some inoperable car in the garage and junk so no where else to park but the driveway/street. So you can fit two cars side by side in the driveway with no problem. The issue here is there are 3 old limousines parked side by side across the front and their back ends on two of them hang over the grass. The police said since the wheel wasn't on the grass there is nothing they can do about it. The cars have no license plates and haven't been moved since they parked them there.

They have this enclosed trailer that they park at the very start of the driveway after the neighbor told them to get it off the lawn between their houses. Then they have a ratty looking Suburban and a beat up old minivan they park in front of the house on the street. The old van is where the dogs were. It also has a pretty good oil leak going, so that's great too.

I don't know if they're section 8 or not. I happened to be in my garage doing laundry when the LL had it for rent and saw them drive up. They were there about an hour and he rented it to them and took off for AZ! Yeah, I cringed because I learned the hard way about credit checks and previous landlord vouches and people who are ready to move in that same day. Yeah, not happening with me.

I haven't seen the man around very often but the two women don't appear to work since the cars never seem to leave much except when they come back with groceries or something, but definitely not a regular job where they leave at a certain hour. I wouldn't want to speculate where their income comes from because I have no idea if it's the taxpayer or if they're independently wealthy and don't really care - well, I do care because I think I know and it bugs me but I don't know for sure. But if they were on section 8 would they be able to move in the very day they looked at the place? The other families who have lived there since I have didn't appear to be on assistance but who knows.

I know I sound like a crazy person but they've lived there going on 1.5 years now and it's getting worse. The people in the neighborhood welcomed them, introduced ourselves, etc. and they seemed OK at first but now they're very surly and the neighborhood is being degraded by one household. If I can get a chance tomorrow I will take a picture of the cars in front of the house and the weeds so you can get the full picture. I can throw them up on imageshack or something. You'll see I am not making it this up.

This is a very nice neighborhood (500K average/ probably 2500-3000 avg rent) and hardly any of the homes are rentals so it's really bad that this one family is making our street look so awful and degrading the peaceful neighborhood. We have it worse than the neighbor on the other side of them due to how the houses are laid out. They leave windows open and they are loud, screaming constantly. It's a street about twice the length of a normal residential street and the people who live down on the other end even stopped and asked what the heck is going on over there. They also told the LL that people are just complaining because of their race, which is just utter nonsense and it greatly irritates me for someone to claim that when it's not true. As I said, everyone loved the previous tenants who are the same race as the awful people.

I will check out the Register archives and call that law group, so thank you for that.

Let me end this by saying I know that people criticizing a LL doesn't go over too big here and I understand completely. I figured that once my neighbor let him know what was really going on he'd come over here and take care of it but she said he just didn't seem to care. That is unacceptable to me - if he was unaware, that's one thing but this is something else. Although, I thought to myself when he rented to them in an hour and took off for home he was nuts and it was too many people for that house. That's his business but when his tenants affect the rest of us it's our business.

Thanks! --64.34.xxx.xx




Awful tenants next door (by CarolJ [CA]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2011 8:49 PM
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Reid, yes, thanks. The problem is the animal control facility makes you file paperwork to file an official complaint. Even if I could have called them, they are only open like from 8am to 5pm. The after hours number is just a recording. The one night it was so bad the dog barked from midnight until 5:30am. And when I say barked, I mean non-stop, not a few barks here and there.

I can try that tact with him but I don't expect him to toss them. He knows they lied about how many people, that they have dogs they weren't supposed to have and that the house looks like a junkyard. He doesn't seem to care, according to my neighbor who spoke to him. That's why I was thinking of having an attorney write him a letter and I'm going to check into just what we can do about it. --64.34.xxx.xx




Awful tenants next door (by Reid [KS]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2011 9:06 PM
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Well if the LL neighbor doesn't want your help with the problem ask him how he's going to like to show up in court every time one of the neighbors sues him in SC court? maybe then he'll see the light. ??? It'll only cost each neighbor maybe $50-60 but it'll cost him considerably more to defend against each suit. Then he might learn the term enlightened Self Interest . :-) --99.72.xxx.xxx




Awful tenants next door (by Cat [WI]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2011 9:30 PM
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Do you or any of your neighbors have the funds to maybe make an offer to the owner to buy this place? He may be willing to sell it cheap so he does not have to deal with it anymore.

Maybe even some of the neighbors could go in together, if they would get along afterwards.

If you own it, you can evict and get rid of them and control who moves in there.

Just a thought.

Cat

--207.190.xxx.xx




Awful tenants next door (by CarolJ [CA]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2011 10:10 PM
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Cat, being an accidental LL ourselves due to my father's age and inability to take care of things, I don't think I'd care to be one next door to tenants of mine.

Also, I don't know any of the neighbors' financial situations and not sure several families going in together would work out very well.

I will have the courtesy to call him before I speak to a lawyer but if he doesn't either get them to shape up or ship out I'm done messing with those people. When I see my neighbors within about five or six houses on either side and that includes across the street that's all we talk about is the awful people living in that house and they all say they don't know how I can stand it since I get it the worst. --64.34.xxx.xx




Awful tenants next door (by BRAD 20,000 [IN]) Posted on: Mar 28, 2011 10:54 PM
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CarolJ, You're too nice. And it has not worked.

My take is the LL has no reason to do anything. If he can brush off a few phones calls, he's fine.

Video tape the dogs barking.

File the complaint.

Have an atty write a NASTY letter, saying that if this situation is not corrected in the next 10 days, he'll be filing complaints with the building inspector, health dept, city sanitation, dog catcher, housing authority, mayor, police chief, BMV.... (basically ever agency who will make his life miserable). Then he will file a lawsuit for each neighbor for the amount their property values have been reduced and the inconvenience of forcing them to endure bad conditions.

(any neighborhood covenants regarding parking, number of pets...?)

Call the police and tell them you smell something strange coming from the house and see people coming and going at all hours, who stay for just a minute.

You'll have to ratchet this up much higher to get any action. The squeaky wheel gets the oil.

Best of luck! I've been there!

--67.175.xx.xxx




Awful tenants next door (by Chris [CA]) Posted on: Mar 29, 2011 4:21 AM
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Barking dogs bring out the cave man in me. My grandfather kept hissing at some when I was knee high and now, I would buy a dog whistle and make sure to drive them crazy just on time for the Animal Control visit!

Rotate the complaints, discuss who is calling when and where and pile on the pressure. These people need a Kennel License!!! --101.108.xxx.xxx




Awful tenants next door (by Roy [AL]) Posted on: Mar 29, 2011 7:15 AM
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This post is an example of how good neighborhoods can go bad. When this situation spreads to other houses on the block, property values begin dropping like a rock.

My neighborhood had a similar problem a few years ago. The only solution was to convince the owner of the house to sell it to a homeowner and instead of renting it out to trashy people. --76.18.xxx.xxx




Awful tenants next door (by CarolJ [CA]) Posted on: Mar 29, 2011 8:54 AM
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Chris, Brad and Roy, thanks for the advice.

I managed to get a few photos today with my iPhone so they are not great but you should be able to see some of it. The minivan was either taking the kids to school or maybe she's out buying beer - who knows, so you don't get to see it. If she comes back later I'll snap another one.

Behold and I hope they're not too small. There should be a thumbnail but if you click on it it will show you the larger photo.

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I was in my yard and across the street at the neighbors so they're not that great of photos but I did not want to get on their property and I had to shoot from several angles to get all the crud in them.

I wish I could give you the whole experience! I may take a happy snap over the back fence so you can see that mess.

Enjoy!

--64.34.xxx.xx




Awful tenants next door (by Mike45 [NV]) Posted on: Mar 29, 2011 12:56 PM
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Reid, threatening the LL with Small Claims would be a joke -- in CA, you must serve the Small Claims Defendant within the State. This LL is out of state, so they can't serve him in state and cannot bring a Small Claims action against him.

There seem to be multiple avenues that should be pursued. (1) Documentation of the situation. (2) Letters to the LL, in order to set him up for a nuisance lawsuit. (3) Letters to Animal Control (and whatever paperwork they require). (4) Letters to the local police. (5) Letters to Code Enforcement. (6) Letters to Children's Proctive Services. (7) If the letters to the local police do not work, letters to the Commander of the local law enforcement station, with cc's to the head of the department. (8) If the above does not yield results, letters to your city/county councilman calmly explaining the lack of action by Animal Control and local police, maybe with a cc to the local press. (9) If (8) does not work, letter to mayor, with cc to local press.

If all else fails, a lawsuit against the LL and the neighbors for nuisance.

In complaining to the police, try to focus on one issue at a time -- for example, complain about the abandoned vehicles left on the street, without reference to the other problems. Simply deal with that one issue. Also, have other neighbors get involved, so that it does not look like just one person with a vendetta. Five people complaining of abandoned vehicles are more likely to get the city to tow the cars than just one person involved in a spite war. You can orchestrate, but you should not be the sole voice -- you need the whole choir to join in.

--216.240.xx.xxx




Awful tenants next door (by CarolJ [CA]) Posted on: Mar 29, 2011 2:19 PM
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I called the LL today. Voiced my concerns, told him what had been going on. He says they tell a different story. I said call the PD and get the police report because it will clearly show no one jumped over the fence and tried to break in; the officer told us the window was broken from the inside out.

He claims that's why they got the dogs.

I flat out asked him if he intended to give them their 30 days notice and he said no, he would have to rehab the house and get it re-rented. I told him that I and the neighbor on the other side would help him screen renters and show for him. Nope, he doesn't want to do that. And he also said "they'll accuse me of discrimination".

Put in a call to animal control and discussed it with them. The woman told me that they claim to own one dog. Yes, that's one - not five with one being pregnant. So only the dog that got picked up by the pound has rabies shots and license. I'm sure of that. In fact when they claimed someone let the dogs out deliberately, they didn't - they get out all the time because they don't close the gate, the man lied and told me that the dog was licensed and has its shots. The older boy told me it cost them $300. One night of boarding is about $150, but an unneutered male dog with no license or proof of shots would cost about $300. So, I'm sure the other animals probably do not have even basic shots.

Animal control is sending me the paperwork to start a complaint and she said when they investigate they will find the unlicensed dogs, etc.

The LL couldn't care less and he does not intend to do anything about it. In fact he told me I should be the one calling animal control, police, etc. I told him out of courtesy as one LL to another I was letting him know what is going on in his house. He simply doesn't care.

Before I hung up I also asked him to think about one thing - it's been a rental for a very long time and how many complaints from the neighbors did he ever have about any of the tenants until these came along? None. That's right, he knows what's going on and doesn't care. He further told me he thinks the front of the house "looked great". Yes, folks, he sees nothing wrong with it.

Put in a call to an attorney and waiting on a return call. --64.34.xxx.xx




Awful tenants next door (by Ken [NY]) Posted on: Mar 29, 2011 2:19 PM
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Fortunately I have always had good neighbors.I am not sure what I would do in a case like this but the problem would end soon.I would talk to the city and if they did nothing the news would be called.If you actually went to the owners house and knocked on his door that might unnerve him and get something done,maybe even help him through the process of an eviction.My city has a law that says something about a neighbor can bring an eviction under certain circumstances although I have never heard of anyone doing it. --67.252.xx.xx




Awful tenants next door (by Robert J [CA]) Posted on: Mar 29, 2011 3:08 PM
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Carol, I feel your pain. I had a simular problem with out to town owners, lawyers, who told me never to contact them again or I'd face legal action. It was okay for me to do what ever I wanted -- like report their tenants to the police. I then outlined our phone conversation and sent them a copy.

Then I set up several hidden video cameras along the property line and reported them to every City Department with valid complaints. On tape I caught the neighbors distorying plants, taking a dump on my property, stealing the news paper, turning on my water and letting it run all day.

I then filed a police report, gave them a copy of the video tape. I then fowarded a copy of the police report to the owners of the property and filed a case in small claims court against my neighbors, owners of the property and their insurance company. That really ticked them off, their insurance company finding out they had 13 people living in a 3 bedroom house.

Their insurance company then dropped them.

Fast foward, I still have the same tenants and bad neighbors, but now they have worked things out. The neighbors got rid of their pets and only allow their children to screem during the day and not at night. --173.55.xxx.xxx




Awful tenants next door (by Virden [OH]) Posted on: Mar 29, 2011 7:19 PM
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In my area the over crowding call goes to the fire captain for that shift, have him inspect for any gasoline leaking from the auto storage lot and make those smoke detectors produce a noise - this is how we tame slumlords. --99.160.xx.x




Awful tenants next door (by CarolJ [CA]) Posted on: Mar 30, 2011 7:27 AM
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Thanks for all of the tips and advice.

I think I left some context out about the broken window. Last summer the police were there and the kids were all at home with no parents on this evening about 7PM. The officer came over to speak to us and said that they claimed someone jumped my backyard fence into their backyard and tried to break in. The officer told us it was used bull food because the window was broken from the inside out by one or more of the kids.

The next day the mother was telling us that it was "X folks dressing up like Y folks to try to drive us out of the neighborhood because we're Y folks."

No, I'm not making that up, either. And I didn't get the X and Y mixed up, believe me. It made no sense to me as I'm sure it won't for any of you.

That's what I was referring to about the police report and why they told the LL they got the dogs.

They also told him those two extra children don't live there but get dropped off and picked up for school. That's a blatant lie because I get up very early and no one drops the kids off - they come out of the house with the rest of horde in the morning for school.

--64.34.xxx.xx




Awful tenants next door (by sdf [SD]) Posted on: Mar 30, 2011 10:35 AM
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There is a product called bark off that I have used successfully with my own dogs.

--74.80.xx.xx




Awful tenants next door (by Virden [OH]) Posted on: Mar 30, 2011 10:51 AM
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Maybe one of those mosquito noise machines would help you, I always get the best response from the fire dept. when I smell car gas - they order everything towed out, really cleans up those dumpy tenants fast and if they move you do not have to pay to get them towed. --99.160.xx.xx




Awful tenants next door (by Wilma [PA]) Posted on: Mar 30, 2011 11:45 AM
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Any local news stations that might want to do an investigative piece on slumlords? You might want to give that line a try, AFTER you've gotten no results from many different neighbors sending many complaints to many departments. --96.227.xx.xxx




Awful tenants next door (by Gwen [OH]) Posted on: Mar 31, 2011 4:55 AM
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We get our best response from the Fire Dept, too. Tenants move out fast if one of their cars is set on fire. Preferably one in the garage. --174.130.xxx.xxx




Awful tenants next door (by CarolJ [CA]) Posted on: Mar 31, 2011 5:21 PM
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I called the LL again yesterday to discuss making the fence higher. While on my property, on my side of the fence with my contractor measuring and discussing it, she slammed a window open and screamed some stupid stuff at us like were we looking for something, did we lose something. I just rolled my eyes and said nothing but my contractor was so shocked he said we were making the fence higher and she snarled that was good and slammed it shut. Then he went over there and asked her if he could have access to the yard to do the finish work on their side. She said she wasn't cooperating, no way, and she's calling her LL to tell him. He said we already have his approval and she slammed the door in his face. He's also a neighbor, btw, so he's very well aware of their b.s.

I sent the LL a letter recapping our convo about the fence that he agreed to if I paid and I'm so desperate to have some peace and privacy I'm paying nearly 2K to have it made higher. Told him about that lovely encounter, and now I wish I would have called the police. I also printed those lovely photos of the yard in a very large size and included them.

I'm still trying to figure out the kind of lawyer I need as the other guy never called back. I'm done with this trash and their thinking they can move in and intimidate an entire neighborhood into letting it go to heck.

I think one of the neighbors told me code enf told them that it's hard to prove how many people are living there. Has anyone ever hired a PI to document it? I also need to talk to someone at the city other than CE because this is nuts - this is not a slum neighborhood even though by that house you'd never know it.

Can anyone recommend exterior security cameras that will record for a decent length of time without overwriting it? I'm putting some up because I put nothing past these idiots. --64.34.xxx.xx




Awful tenants next door (by Nancy [MN]) Posted on: Oct 25, 2011 1:23 PM
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I HAVE A RENTAL HOUSE NEXT DOOR TO ME. THEY RENTED IT TO TEENAGERS. THE FIRST DAY THEY CAME OVER AND TOOK A OUTDOOR TABLE AND CHAIRS THAT WE WERE KEEPING FOR THE LAST RENTER. WE DID NOT KNOW THAT THE FIFTEEN YEAR OLD DAUGHTER OF THE FORMER RENTER HAD GIVEN THEM PERMISSION TO TAKE THE TABLE. THEN THE NEXT NIGHT THEY HAD A PARTY AND SOME DRUNK FELL INTO MY FENCE THAT SEPARATES THE TWO PROPERTIES AND BROKE IT. I CALLED THE LANDLORD AND HE SAID HE DIDN'T WANT TO GET INTO IT. I TOOK PICTURES OF THE FENCE DOWN TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEY WENT OVER AND SPOKE TO THEM. WHAT IS MY RECOURSE TO DEFEND MY PROPERTY FROM DAMAGE OR MY WELL BEING? IS THERE ANYTHING THE LANDLORD SHOULD BE DOING?

--75.163.xx.xxx




Awful tenants next door (by Cindy [CA]) Posted on: Mar 22, 2012 7:29 PM
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Hi, I have been reading articles about people who are having trouble with bad neighbors. My husband and I are living our lives in hell with new neighbors that moved in 5 months ago. Just wondering, did you get any results out of using a lawyer? Our landlords do not live on property and are kind of slum lords...they want the rent and don't want to hear about any problems. So we just sent them a 2 page letter and are waiting for a reply "We hope" but in the past they were not very helpful. Would love to hear anything else we can do. Thank you and hope you had good results! --71.95.xx.xxx




Awful tenants next door (by Cindy [CA]) Posted on: Mar 22, 2012 7:37 PM
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Hi, I have been reading articles about people who are having trouble with bad neighbors. My husband and I are living our lives in hell with new neighbors that moved in 5 months ago. Just wondering, did you get any results out of using a lawyer? Our landlords do not live on property and are kind of slum lords...they want the rent and don't want to hear about any problems. So we just sent them a 2 page letter and are waiting for a reply "We hope" but in the past they were not very helpful. Would love to hear anything else we can do. Thank you and hope you had good results! --71.95.xx.xxx




Awful tenants next door (by Wendy [NC]) Posted on: Mar 23, 2012 3:49 PM
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HERE's a thought. LEAVE the landlord out of it for now, since s/he is not willing to do anything that you know of.

What would you do if these people OWNED the property? Work that angle.

Call the police about noise, the fire department about suspicious smells, Animal Control about barking dogs, Health department about animal feces, ASPC and PETA about animals in cars ... call the local news if it's a slow week.

And DO IT WHEN IT IS HAPPENING.

WTH people. The landlord is in another state. Take control of your own life and the landlord will have to react at some point. --173.27.xxx.xxx





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