suicide (by LS [AZ]) Jun 2, 2010 4:09 PM
suicide (by in [IN]) Jun 2, 2010 4:14 PM
suicide (by LS [AZ]) Jun 2, 2010 4:44 PM
suicide (by reid [KS]) Jun 2, 2010 4:57 PM
suicide (by Irish [MD]) Jun 2, 2010 5:08 PM
suicide (by LS [AZ]) Jun 2, 2010 5:23 PM
suicide (by in [IN]) Jun 2, 2010 5:32 PM
suicide (by Irish [MD]) Jun 2, 2010 5:43 PM
suicide (by Larry [MN]) Jun 2, 2010 6:29 PM
suicide (by LS [AZ]) Jun 2, 2010 6:38 PM
suicide (by Mike45 [NV]) Jun 2, 2010 7:04 PM
suicide (by Virden [OH]) Jun 3, 2010 4:54 AM
suicide (by Lori [NV]) Jun 3, 2010 12:13 PM
suicide (by zb [CA]) Jun 3, 2010 10:58 PM
suicide (by Diane (Missouri) [MO]) Jun 4, 2010 8:10 AM
suicide (by LS [AZ]) Posted on: Jun 2, 2010 4:09 PM Message:
State Specific Question About: ARIZONA (AZ)
Sadly, I just found out my tenant is no longer living. She had a child living with her. Do I need to get a lawyer? The police told me I do not to and that this will be easier than I expect. Or should I see if the family will take care of her belongings. Also, she did not pay June's rent. Please help!
Also, is this something I need to disclose to prospective tenants? The neighbor's know about the situation. .
I spent a lot of time talking with my tenant recently--she was planning on moving at the end of the month anyway. I really liked her.
Thanks!
--207.200.xxx.xx |
suicide (by in [IN]) Posted on: Jun 2, 2010 4:14 PM Message:
She will have an estate, you need to send a SD, to the administrator, and she will take care of any expenses, providing their is any money. You should also release the belongings to them.
Do not become a storage facility, it is just business.
It is a death, not a murder, she passed away that is all you need to say. --67.163.xx.xx |
suicide (by LS [AZ]) Posted on: Jun 2, 2010 4:44 PM Message:
What's a SD? How do I find out who the administrator is? --207.200.xxx.x |
suicide (by reid [KS]) Posted on: Jun 2, 2010 4:57 PM Message:
If tenant was in residence as of the 1st of june she owed rent. You can subtract rent owed and any damages from security deposit. That will give the estate till the end of june to vacate the place. --70.250.xxx.xxx |
suicide (by Irish [MD]) Posted on: Jun 2, 2010 5:08 PM Message:
Be very careful about releasing the property to relatives, as some will come in and "cherry pick" the valuables, leave the junk, etc.
You should go change the locks NOW, and put note on door that you will only provide a new key to the Estate Administrator with proper written documentation.
Look in your phone book under city/county offices for Administer of Wills. Do not release the property or provide keys to the Administrator of the Estate until you meet/talk to them about the need to clean out all the property and clean the rental quickly if they want the chance of getting any refund of the security deposit, and that you will be deducting June rent accordingly. If you feel compasionate, and the do all that well, you might prorate the June rent once they have everything out and cleaned well...if not use the SD, and if any additional money is owed to you, send the SD accounting including a demand for additional money owed to the Estate Administrator...they will be legally obligated to pay any owed amounts. --96.239.xxx.xxx |
suicide (by LS [AZ]) Posted on: Jun 2, 2010 5:23 PM Message:
The house is taped off as a crime scene. What if the teenage daughter needs to get clothing for the funeral? Do I really need to change the locks ASAP? What if that's considered interfering with crime scene? This home is in an upscale neighborhood. The tenant was a doc.
What do I do about the utilities? I don't think I could turn them off, even if I wanted to. --207.200.xxx.x |
suicide (by in [IN]) Posted on: Jun 2, 2010 5:32 PM Message:
Call the funeral home, they have all the info, do not change any locks, it is not your property --67.163.xx.xx |
suicide (by Irish [MD]) Posted on: Jun 2, 2010 5:43 PM Message:
Sorry, I overlooked the fact that a daughter was also a resident...my apologies...so you cannot change the locks in that case...
Call your police dept to inquire about when the crime scene tape will be removed.
Are you paying the utilities for a single family home rental? If so, you should not be doing that, and should call the utility companies at the time of lease signing or before to have the new tenant change over the utilities into thier name and their bill. --96.239.xxx.xxx |
suicide (by Larry [MN]) Posted on: Jun 2, 2010 6:29 PM Message:
So sorry for this woman's daughter and family. Sorry for you as well. --75.73.xxx.xxx |
suicide (by LS [AZ]) Posted on: Jun 2, 2010 6:38 PM Message:
The police told me the tape will be removed in the next few days. The body was still in the home.
I'm not paying the utilities--but my landlord contract with the water, gas, electric company won't switch over to my name until the tenant pays their final bill.
I guess I'll let their family worry about it. The problem is her family is on the east coast and older. I'm really worried, they'll just pick over what they want and then leave the rest for me to deal with.
--207.200.xxx.x |
suicide (by Mike45 [NV]) Posted on: Jun 2, 2010 7:04 PM Message:
So far as I am concerned, the suicide/death is not my business. I would wait a few days for the rent to be paid, and if it is not paid, I would post a __ Day Notice To Pay Rent Or Quit. I do not know if under AZ law, death is any excuse for non-payment of rent or if it would abate any eviction proceedings.
I would not change the locks (even if there was not a teenaged daughter in the picture), until the Court and Sheriff gave me possession. I would not give keys out to anyone (except in this case, to the teenaged daughter, if for some reason she has lost her key) -- unless someone came in with a court order appointing them to administer the estate. Let the police or coronor give the tenant's keys to whoever they want.
I would not secure the premises, as so many people on this Forum recommend. Not my responsibility, not my business. If tenant gave out copies of the keys to other people, that is her right and/or problem. Of course, if the place has been broken into, then I would secure it, but if we are tlaking about keeping the family of the decedent out, if they have keys, forget it, not my job.
Proceed with the eviction, so that the time you need to hold the tenant's possessions will be over sooner rather than later.
I am sorry for the grief this will cause you, and for the daughter who will now have to go through life with the pain that has been inflicted on her. Many suicides are very selfish.
--216.240.xx.xxx |
suicide (by Virden [OH]) Posted on: Jun 3, 2010 4:54 AM Message:
Follow the police orders, and collect rent from a relative until unit is cleaned out, if nobody home utilities will be minimum amounts, ask the police about pro-cleanup job to remove strong odors and this comes from estate, get locks ready but not yet. --76.241.xxx.x |
suicide (by Lori [NV]) Posted on: Jun 3, 2010 12:13 PM Message:
What Mike said. Unfortunately, you will have to wait until you are awarded possession. If relatives pick over the stuff and leave you the rest, that's unfortunate but probable. No one comes out the winner in this one. You will be out of rent for a few months and the daughter will have to live with the grief. Yes, suicide is always selfish. Their pain may end but they cause pain for the living. --74.45.xx.x |
suicide (by zb [CA]) Posted on: Jun 3, 2010 10:58 PM Message:
You must be kidding. Police left a DEAD BODY INSIDE the home? ewe!
I once had a tenant who croaked in 1 of our units. She lived by herself so nobody noticed her disappearance until 1 of her neighbor complained of the stench on the 6th of the month. I called 911, police came then found our bloated tenant dead for a while (at least 7 days(?)). Medical examiner came and took her away within hours and sealed the unit.
She was a loner, listed no next of kin, so I almost had to call the ghost busters, lucky for us she got some paperwork and medical examiner contacted her out of state distant next of kin. We had to wait until the police gave us permission to even access the unit with approval from next of kin. Her next of kin picked up her "valuables", left a royal mess, did not pay the rent she owed us and we barely had much deposit to cover anything (she just moved in and was working on "building up" her deposit. In CA the lease expires when the tenant dies (according to the Housing Commission), so we just cut our losses, moved on, thanked God she died of natural causes (was in her 40's), and were glad to finally receive the keys of the unit back from those surviving losers.
In my case we had to practically rip the entire unit out due to the unbelievable nasty stench (thank God she croaked while sitting on the throne so all the body juices only oozed out on the bathroom vinyl). So if I were you I would not worry about the utilities, let them send the bills to the dead tenant. You'll need it for the Hazmat crew to use to clean the "crime scene".
In CA we had to be in "mourning" for 3 years (disclose to new renters somebody died there in the following 3 years). We spent oodles of money to completely rehab the unit, lowered the rent slightly and got it rented right away.
Bottom line, check with the police department and local laws to avoid getting into legal problems (this is recession, there are a lot of hungry attorneys who are willing to sue us for just looking ugly). I am sure they have all sorts of guidelines.
Best of luck. --69.107.xx.x |
suicide (by Diane (Missouri) [MO]) Posted on: Jun 4, 2010 8:10 AM Message:
I had a similar situation happen in one of my units. In this case, the daughter was the tenant and the mother was living there unauthorized. I had to give them 30 days. What was important was that since the mother wasn't on the lease, she was basically trespassing and I was informed NOT to treat her like a tenant. I couldn't enforce the lease on her as she wasn't legally my tenant. Thus, I was informed by my lawyer to be respectful by letting the family take care of funeral arrangements, and transitioning their daughter's belongings. Yes she passed away owing rent for the month and of course no rent for the extra 30 days, and they did take what they wanted and left the rese for me to clean up and dispose of. But I satisfied the 30-day requirement to hold property---then I was able to get a dumpster and dispose of the rest. I just took the loss and did not return a security deposit. I learned some new things as a result of this conversation also. --98.156.xx.xx |
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