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Vegas Condo (by Rohit [CT]) Sep 29, 2008 9:34 AM
       Vegas Condo (by Steve [FL]) Sep 29, 2008 10:22 AM
       Vegas Condo (by Rohit [CT]) Sep 29, 2008 10:31 AM
       Vegas Condo (by Jim in OC [CA]) Sep 29, 2008 11:11 AM
       Vegas Condo (by Mike45 [NV]) Sep 29, 2008 11:27 AM
       Vegas Condo (by Rohit [CT]) Sep 29, 2008 12:23 PM
       Vegas Condo (by Steve [FL]) Sep 29, 2008 2:39 PM
       Vegas Condo (by Rohit [CT]) Sep 30, 2008 5:08 AM


Vegas Condo (by Rohit [CT]) Posted on: Sep 29, 2008 9:34 AM
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State Specific Question About: NEVADA (NV)

I keep hearing about how dpressed the RE market is in Las Vegas and am thinking of buying a Condo (buy and hold). I live in CT. Any thoughts on investing in that market? Thank you for any suggestions/advice. --98.174.xx.xxx




Vegas Condo (by Steve [FL]) Posted on: Sep 29, 2008 10:22 AM
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I wouldn't. --24.99.xxx.xxx




Vegas Condo (by Rohit [CT]) Posted on: Sep 29, 2008 10:31 AM
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Steve: Thanks for your response. Would you mind elaborating? Thanks --98.174.xx.xxx




Vegas Condo (by Jim in OC [CA]) Posted on: Sep 29, 2008 11:11 AM
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I co-own a house with my son in LV. Unless you put at least 20 to 25% down you will not break even. The quantity of vacancies are keeping rents down.

By time you add a PM and being a distance LL you will lose. --72.25.xx.xxx




Vegas Condo (by Mike45 [NV]) Posted on: Sep 29, 2008 11:27 AM
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I wouldn't recommend it. Reasons:

1. Rental income to purchase price is NOT good. Get an estimate as to how much rent you can charge for whatever condo you have in mind. Also, make sure that the Homeowners' Association allows rentals, and check to see how tenant-unfriendly they are.

2. Condo carrying costs are too high, relative to the rental income, eating up most of the rent.

3. Given 1 and 2 above, even if you pay cash for the condo, you will likely be in negative cash flow from the HOA, taxes and insurance. Even before you factor in management costs and vacancy factor. I have not seen a condo deal in Vegas that will pay for the HOA, taxes, insurance and carrying cost of an 80% mortgage.

4. Vegas has a huge transient population. There is a large tenant pool, but most of the prospective teants are NOT stable. They've moved to Vegas after striking out elsewhere. It is hard to get applicants who have first month and one month security deposit.

5. Condos don't have much appreciation potential, in my opinion. Especially in large complexes. In a 200 unit complex, assuming a 5 - 7 year hold time, you would have on average 30 - 40 units sold every year. So you are likely to have 10 units for sale when you want to sell. With that kind of supply, how will the prices ever climb?

6. As to long distance ownership, you should talk to Leigh (CA).

7. I have been unhappy with the management companies I have used in Vegas. Too many high priced repairs, poorly done (or not done, even though I've paid for them). Too many unauthorized repairs, never reported until I got the statement with the deductions. Inadequate prospective tenant screeening. Lots of tenant complaints. Too many landlord complaints (resulting in a termination of the relationships).

But if you find a deal that makes economic sense, go for it. I have faith that Vegas will come back, as strong as ever. I just think the Single Family or multi-unit opportunities are usually better than condos.

--216.175.xxx.xx




Vegas Condo (by Rohit [CT]) Posted on: Sep 29, 2008 12:23 PM
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Thank you guys for the input. Mike - those are some great points. Appreciate it. --98.174.xx.xxx




Vegas Condo (by Steve [FL]) Posted on: Sep 29, 2008 2:39 PM
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Rohit, Mike hit dead on with every point. I've never considered them except waterfront. Beyond the reasons Mike listed, in my research of property sales, I've seen some sit with "zero" appreciation for as long as 10 years. --24.99.xxx.xxx




Vegas Condo (by Rohit [CT]) Posted on: Sep 30, 2008 5:08 AM
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Thanks Steve. Certainly the popular vote appears to be "against" such an investment. --98.174.xx.xxx





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