 Faux security cameras (by Margo [AZ]) Jun 20, 2008 7:07 PM
 Faux security cameras (by Jeff [MI]) Jun 20, 2008 7:21 PM
Faux security cameras (by RR78 [VA]) Jun 20, 2008 9:03 PM
Faux security cameras (by James [MA]) Jun 20, 2008 9:08 PM
Faux security cameras (by RR [WA]) Jun 21, 2008 9:24 AM
Faux security cameras (by Margo [AZ]) Jun 21, 2008 11:22 AM
Faux security cameras (by 16west [MN]) Jun 21, 2008 12:33 PM
Faux security cameras (by John Feeney [IL]) Jul 11, 2008 11:37 AM
Faux security cameras (by John... [MI]) Jul 11, 2008 12:56 PM
Faux security cameras (by Margo [AZ]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2008 7:07 PM
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State Specific Question About: ARIZONA (AZ)
After some incidents of petty vandalism, I want to mount some "faux" security cameras at a 7-unit, with signs that say "This property is protected by surveillance cameras"
My questions -- can I be charged with fraud or sued if someone is assaulted or has a car vandalized? I need some legal advice! Thanks -- --97.112.xxx.xxx |
Faux security cameras (by Jeff [MI]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2008 7:21 PM
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What have you been drinking to even entertain this idea, Margo? --193.200.xxx.xx |
Faux security cameras (by RR78 [VA]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2008 9:03 PM
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"This property is protected by surveillance cameras"
Just dont add in there if they are real or fake.
Even fake cameras could be considered to protect some. --71.246.xxx.xxx |
Faux security cameras (by James [MA]) Posted on: Jun 20, 2008 9:08 PM
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Install real cameras or none at all. The expectation is that real cameras are installed and that is the standard to which you will be held. --70.19.xxx.xxx |
Faux security cameras (by RR [WA]) Posted on: Jun 21, 2008 9:24 AM
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No harm in adding a fake one, but having the sign might cause some kind of "false advertising" problems. Fake cameras might deter some of the crime for a while.
--24.22.xxx.xx |
Faux security cameras (by Margo [AZ]) Posted on: Jun 21, 2008 11:22 AM
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Are there any lawyers in this group (Jeff, you obviously are, per your technical comment!)? A real system is not an option -- no one to monitor it and no where to place the "home" unit. Can I use a sign that doesn't specify that there are working cameras (e.g. "This property is under surveillance" which could mean by my property manager) but put the cameras up? Should I just scrap the idea and let my tenants' cars get keyed and broken into? --65.122.xx.xxx |
Faux security cameras (by 16west [MN]) Posted on: Jun 21, 2008 12:33 PM
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I am not a lawyer, but I cant imagine where your liability would be. Even if, by some technical stretch, you are liable, who is going to take you to court over this, the crooks and vandals?
IMO, put up the signs and fake cameras, then tell your tenants exactly what you just told us, the real thing is impractical. I believe that they would be grateful that you are legitimately trying to do something constructive rather then just ignoring the problem.
Since the tenants know that there are no real cameras, there will be no implied perception of safety beyond the reality of the situation.
I understand that there may be no public or LL space to install a base unit. Considering that it is their property under the knife, would one of them consider allowing a base unit of a real surveillance system to sit in the corner somewhere? If I were in that situation, I would be happy to give up a few square feet for the added deterrence.
--204.72.xxx.xxx |
Faux security cameras (by John Feeney [IL]) Posted on: Jul 11, 2008 11:37 AM
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Surveillance solutions are affordable. With the advancement of Remote monitoring now a standard vs an option. The first phase is coming to grips with the need. The second is applying the technology for "proper" use in securing the property.
Each state does have it's regulations in this regard and you should seek legal advice BEFORE deploying this. --74.7.xx.xx |
Faux security cameras (by John... [MI]) Posted on: Jul 11, 2008 12:56 PM
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John Feeney -- they are affordable in SOME areas. In my area, where there is no high speed internet available, remote monitoring solutions are certainly NOT affordable -- if possible at all.
Please don't assume that everyone has access to $14.95 a month DSL for cheap remote monitoring...
- John...
--207.241.xxx.xx |
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