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Dinging the Deposit (by Dana [IN]) Mar 11, 2008 2:54 PM
       Dinging the Deposit (by Gloria [TN]) Mar 11, 2008 3:07 PM
       Dinging the Deposit (by mike [MO]) Mar 11, 2008 3:14 PM
       Dinging the Deposit (by Dan [MA]) Mar 11, 2008 3:16 PM
       Dinging the Deposit (by Wallace CPM [VA]) Mar 11, 2008 3:16 PM
       Dinging the Deposit (by pmh [TX]) Mar 11, 2008 3:38 PM
       Dinging the Deposit (by DavidB [FL]) Mar 11, 2008 3:58 PM
       Dinging the Deposit (by Radar [IN]) Mar 11, 2008 4:06 PM
       Dinging the Deposit (by rentman [VA]) Mar 11, 2008 5:22 PM
       Dinging the Deposit (by John [OR]) Mar 11, 2008 6:30 PM
       Dinging the Deposit (by JJ [OR]) Mar 12, 2008 12:35 AM
       Dinging the Deposit (by Lynda [TX]) Mar 12, 2008 11:24 AM
       Dinging the Deposit (by pmh [TX]) Mar 12, 2008 5:28 PM


Dinging the Deposit (by Dana [IN]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2008 2:54 PM
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State Specific Question About: INDIANA (IN)

We had a little surprise yesterday -- the tenant who's been in our little rental house across town has moved out a month and a half before the end of her lease. She actually sent us rent through the end of the lease, so there's no issue there. I looked at the place today and it's also reasonably clean.

However, we installed new wood-look sheet vinyl floors in the place before she moved in. Three of the four rooms have some damage to the floor. The two bedrooms have multiple small holes cut in them by tubular bed-frame legs. The living room has a place where a piece of furniture clearly got shoved and the floor ripped -- hole's about 2" diameter. There's also a place in one room where there's been a bigger tear near a heat register; it's been glued down.

Admittedly it was Lowe's cheapest sheet vinyl that we put in, but it's a big three years old and has one tenant on it. I feel justified in dinging her deposit for the damage -- really, I *could* justify replacing floors in three out of four rooms, which would run at least $300-350, since you can't patch sheet vinyl.

That seems harsh, however. Furthermore, it's not a high-rent neighborhood, and the floors, while damaged, don't look so bad that I can't find a tenant without replacing them -- I'm betting I can.

If I ding her deposit for, say, $100-150, am I then legally or morally obligated to replace the floors right away? Or can I ding her deposit, but rent the place with the floors as-is?

--98.223.xxx.xx




Dinging the Deposit (by Gloria [TN]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2008 3:07 PM
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So you're thinking about taking money and not fixing. Does that make you a cheat, or what? Why don't you take money to replace or take no money ir not replacing? What's wrong with just being honest? --65.7.xx.xxx




Dinging the Deposit (by mike [MO]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2008 3:14 PM
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You should be able to repair the tears. Did you have left over when installed or can you use some out of the closet.

Sounds like you installed a floor that would never hold up to any wear and tear. 3 years sounds good for the junk you installed. Install a decent floor in areas that get some wear and tear

I would not charge them --66.190.xxx.xxx




Dinging the Deposit (by Dan [MA]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2008 3:16 PM
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Cheap thickness sheet vinyl doesn't last three years. If the tenant was good otherwise, I wouldn't charge for those items you mentioned. --76.19.xx.xxx




Dinging the Deposit (by Wallace CPM [VA]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2008 3:16 PM
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Your BAD!Replace with a better vinyl...it was a mistake to use a CHEAPO * charge her 1/2 the vinyl cost and eat the labor yourself..

I was at a house today with property owner/client discussing installing a fence in back yard....current tenants are departing in June and we did a quick check of the inside - it looks almost as good at when it bought it 4 years ago with very little damage or W/T....better residents KEEP your property in better condition...

Don't pay labor costs and use poor materials...labor costs are too high to not use good materials originally!!! --207.200.xxx.xx




Dinging the Deposit (by pmh [TX]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2008 3:38 PM
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LL such as you give the rest of us a bad name. you install crap, and are surprised (?) when ordinary wear & tear (bed in the bedroom....)rips it up. and the crap is three years old. then you want to ding her deposit, and then rent as is.

you are a scum ll

splurge...install the $1.25 vct tiles...........

she paid up through the lease-end. you should be happy. --68.116.xxx.xxx




Dinging the Deposit (by DavidB [FL]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2008 3:58 PM
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Great advice all the way up to Wallace. I wouldn't charge but learn from it. There are many areas to save on but floors are one area where substandard materials will show quickly.

If it's a small house, you plan on holding long term and your handy, you may want to check into hardwood floors. If you buy it right and install yourself, it will pay for itself in saved time at turnover and longevity. --67.166.xxx.xxx




Dinging the Deposit (by Radar [IN]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2008 4:06 PM
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You didn't mention how much deposit you are holding but I'd ding her the whole lot.

"Normal" people would know enough to put protection/coasters under tubular bed frames. A better grade linoleum would not hold up to your tenant's abuse.

You are not a bonehead or cheat, Dana. You should not have to pay for your tenant's stupidity. Ding her and teach her a lesson in life. --72.86.xx.xx




Dinging the Deposit (by rentman [VA]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2008 5:22 PM
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how lucky you are --76.5.xx.xxx




Dinging the Deposit (by John [OR]) Posted on: Mar 11, 2008 6:30 PM
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You got the place back early with full rent. Odds are you probably will rerent before the end of the lease period. That's where I would make a profit over nickle and diming on cheap vinyl. My two cents. --24.21.xx.xx




Dinging the Deposit (by JJ [OR]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2008 12:35 AM
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this one really brought out the fangs! tubular bed frame would have damaged a wood floor, too... tho it does sound like your materials were prone to getting damaged very easily.

i don't have an answer for you other than mentioning that it's not fair to keep all her rent if you re-rent before the end of the time she paid for. you should return the rent if you're getting it from a new renter, no double-dipping, etc.

i mostly wanted to say don't feel too bad about the harsh words, people on this list aren't always polite enough with their answers, i'm sorry about that. it sounded to me like you're trying to figure out what's fair. mixed in with the anger were some good comments about figuring out what's fair. --24.21.xxx.xx




Dinging the Deposit (by Lynda [TX]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2008 11:24 AM
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As usual PMH comes on too strong--but as usual, his basic intent is correct. The "garbage in--garbage out" rule for computers also works for rental property. For tenants you always choose the strongest most durable option their is, or you are just asking for it to be ripped up and to be continually replacing.

-advice#1, if the vinyl has a pattern (like planks of wood)you can cut a section out with an exacto knife and glue in a repair. If you don't have any left over, purchasing another 1ft x length of roll shd be pretty cheap and give you enough to work with.

-advise#2, if that doesn't work and you decide to rip the vinyl out, I suggest you install ceramic tile. It is cheap(@.69/tile at HD), it is easy to install (if I can do it anyone can), and it wears like IRON! Once down it will last a lifetime. It is virtually indestructable unless you take sledge hammer to it. AND, it looks spectacular. Yes, it is cold in the winter. Tenants have to purchase their own carpets and take them with them. What I did in one case where the ytenants came in in Feb (from a place that had a fire, so they had almost nothing), I bought cheap remnants @ 8x10/11 for @ $30 each and I fugured that if they stole them--no great loss. But they were all there when they left. --140.140.xx.x




Dinging the Deposit (by pmh [TX]) Posted on: Mar 12, 2008 5:28 PM
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you have me partly sussed out Lynda. however, I cannot abide those, such as dana, who are "suprised" that the cheap sheet vinyl film floors are damaged by the mere fact of a bed resting on the floor, and THEN wants to ding tenant's deposit and THEN rent AS IS (without taking the $$ witheld - if legal here - towards installing a floor which one would expect to hold up to normal wear & tear).

dana also asked for comment on moral obligation..........and so I stand by my original observations.

and suggestion to upgrade to $1.25 vct squares..... --68.116.xxx.xxx





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